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Zeigeist...the Movie, please explain this to me!
December 6, 2010
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What
is this movie about and why is it so hard for me to understand it?
Do you need a background in religion to fully understand it? I
heard it is proof that the christian religion and possibly all
religions were created to keep us under control...is this
true?

December 6, 2010
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I've
never seen the movie, but I can tell you this, I don't need to see
one to believe that is true.

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Some
people believe so, Bfgirl.

andii

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So,
have you seen it, Andii?

Archarya S, a
major scholarly source of religious information for Zeigeist.
Having done a vast amount of research over many years &
archaelogical digs she is an expert on religious history. A masters
in ancient languages where there are but a handfull of people,
globally, with that same knowledge. She has a site were she has
addressed the purported debunkings. Turns out that 'nothing' was
ever really debunked. Just more false claims by lesser educated
Xtians.

Tough to rebunk
truth.

Oh, and 'Hi' by
the way. How's your shoulder feeling? Better, I hope!

Cc

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What
I been watching and reading is really scaring me...as it should I
believe...

December 8, 2010
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for
the record, i am atheist, but zeitgeist was a horrible documentary,
half of the facts mentiones were completely made up, which just
makes it lose credibility, although they do use some actual facts,
half of it was made up, i have studied alot on the matter for my
self, but havent refreshed my memory in over a year, but watch it
if you want to, it is still a very good movie to watch, just
remember half of it was mde up for the sake of appearing to have
more facts, which aggravted me, because you dont need more facts to
prove relgion is a sham

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its
basically a documentary showing all the obviouse connections
christianity has to other religions, did you know christianity is
known by the techno atheist generation as thwe "cut-and-paste"
relgion? almost nothing in christianity is original, several other
pre-dating gods in other religions have been resurected three days
after being buried in stne, i forget which hindu god was given a
the gifts of gold, frakensense, and myrh at birth, crucifixions
were actually not the punishment for relgiouse uprising, it was
stoning, so jesus was given the wrong punishment, many gods have
been born to virgin mothers, like the story of isis and osiris.
there is nothing original in christianity, not doubting jesus was
real, but doesnt mean he was god

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Hi
CC, shoulder's doing better every day 🙂 I'm in physical therapy
for it right now and it's gaining it's range of motion. Sore, but I
don't the pain meds anymore which is good, and I'm heading back to
the gym. Thanks!

RE the movie, I
think these things are all quite interesting. As Z pointed out,
some facts, half truths, and just plain stuff that came frome
sompeplace- maybe an imagination. Christianity didn't form
overnight, it was a process, and that process is not wholly and
factually recorded. So much room is left for
speculation.

I think it's
irrefutable that religion has been used to control the masses. But
was Christianity created and formed for that sle purpose? That I
don't know. The Catholic Curch went on a crusade to create or
implement the "One World REligion", it was the "New World Order" of
the time. One religion would end religious wars, create peace and
harmony, grant power to the governing party, at the time the Roman
Cathlic Church and its diocese. But followers of Jesus had already
written books and accountings and letters.

Conspiracy theory
is fascinating.

Why does it scare
you BFgirl?

andii

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It's
no 'theory' that xtianity is nothing more than a plagiarized
version of many previous religions having the same basic story.
It's nothing new. A mere 'knock-off'.

Abolishing the
Fed/central banking system/usuary should be priority 1.

One thing
Zeitgeist does is make us realize that all is not as it appears in
the world. A real eye opener. A lot of truth with a bit of logic
based speculation should not be misconstrued as the movie being a
'horrible' documentary. Pfft to that summary.

So andii - you
have seen it then...or not?

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Oh,
glad you're shoulder is on the mend. Good stuff!

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sAndii Duncan,

I think it's more
like only the 1st 1/3 of the movie that focuses on
religion/astrology & how they are intrinsically tied. The
remaining bulk of the docu deals with central banking & how it
has infiltrated government, mainstream media & the resultant
corruption i.e. orchestrated depression/recessions, the
consequential mass servitude, the global agenda/NWO etc.

Speaking of
'Conspiracy', & not conspiracy 'Theory' have you seen 'The
Obabma deception'? Another eye opener.

I'll admit that
the internet is maybe more about quantity than quality but, you
have to dig into it, discriminate, follow up/cross reference before
accepting something as factual. Mainstream news will never provide
unfiltered info on air.

My noggin is
swimming in articles. Almost too much input. Exceeding processable
amounts, given my limited mental faculties. Time for a break. It's
just that there has been so much to consider now with this recently
developed wikileaks revelation.

I believe we owe
it to ourselves & future generations, to at the very least,
enlighten ourselves as best we can about the status quo & then
spead the info around to those who have not been exposed to
anything but mainstream media & all manner of societal
misdirection & disinformation.

The interenet is a
tremendous tool for facilitating this & so, there's no reason
not too use it. We can either be a part of the solution or remain a
part of the problem by rejecting the notions that one's own
government does not have their peoples best interests at
hand.

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'Jesus' wrote books?

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LOL @
craig! Andi...I do not think any group of people, the elite should
ever have absolute power of the people of the united states let
alone over the entire global, too much power and big government
will enslave us...always did in every civilization...obama, bush,
all the same, smoke and mirrors.. yes the roman cathlic church is a
huge here when and politics and religion make excellent bed
fellows...just too much power over the masses, that scares me as it
should scare everyone.

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jesus
disnt write a damn thing, everything about christ was compliled
roughyly three hundred years after his death, there are some
records from apostles but their authenticity is impossible to tell,
not to mention for every gospel saying one thing there is another
one that refute it, the all contradct eachother, the ones that all
had an outline saying jesus was god and whatnot were the ones
chosen to go into the bible, but you cannot take th gospels for
records, for you cant prove who the author was and many thers
contradict them, the deffition in faith is believeing something
that cannot be proven

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The
concept or the words..."Conspiracy Theory" has been set out to look
kooky, on purpose by the powers that be... So much of what we
believe started in the cradle and will be with us till we
die...cleverly planned and ribboned through society, that if you
dare speak the truth, your a nut and the ignorant who go around
parroting what they hear, not wanting to look at the truth, pick up
a book, read something, and or who benefit from the dumbing down of
exposable people, know this and add to that proble... It is a very
brave and very intelligent, well informed person who sees the truth
and is not afraid to say it...so many are on here, and I am so
THANKFUL for that!

December 10, 2010
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Z,

Yep. Hundreds of
years after his death/supposed resurrection, folk started
scribbling notes about him. All heresay, conjecture &
contradictions.

Same thing I told
the judge about the prosecutors remarks at my last hearing.
(kidding)

I'd tell you what
I really said but,..You can't Handle the truth!! lol

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A
line from Jack Nicholson @ Tom Hanks from 'A few good men'. (I
think?)

B
happy!

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i
never knew this about the christian religion, that there were alot
of similiar scearnios...why is that?

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It
amazes me how well conditioned we become into thinking how the
powers that be would like us to think, is it any wonder when
someone thinks "differently" they are labled no good and a
troublemaker?

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There
are also computer giants involved in this somehow? not sure if its
the mark they talk bout or not...maybe its even more, like
information collecting and etc... Conmputer Giants, the Roman
Catholic Church, the media, what else?

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Ivy
League colleges too I hear...but what else?

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So
all major religions share the same story? I really can not believe
what I just watched, but its true! Jesus was not the only one to be
born on the 25th, be born of a virgin, etc...all the events were
the same! Amazing...and its all because of astrology? so someone
made this work to their advantage then???

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A
wide range of recent critical scholars believe that Mark was
written at the earliest after the fall of Jerusalem and the
destruction of the Second Temple in 70AD.

Read more:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When.....z17ktwVBFO

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AGAIN
BAREFOOTGIRL, HALF OF IT WAS DISTORTED FOR THE SAKE OF THE
DOCUMENTARY,but yeah, there are plenty of gods born on christmas,
actually the church doesnt say jesus was born the 25th, his
birthday is somewhere in spring, they just keep the 25 as the
holiday because its a major pagan holiday aswell. dionysus was born
on the 25, i forgot what pagan god was resurrecte three days afer
christ, and the ten commandments? they are basically the same for
all major relgions. did you know priests were allowed originally to
marry? it wasnt untill like the 1200s that they banned it, what
happened was the priests married, had kids, and when the priests
died, the kids would inereit property from the church, if the kids
didnt join the church they would lose money, so they outlawed it.
they make half of the crap up as they go along, and the pope is
nothing more than a guy voted by popularity by the other cardinals,
he isnt holyer, he was the same idiot ten minutes before he was
elected.

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