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You Woman Murdering Son of a Bitch
October 27, 2010
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crystalwaters
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"Second senior poster"? What is this, an RPG?

This very junior
poster has just added another to the "do-not-engage" list.
Ick.

October 27, 2010
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Okeeeee, I guess that reply answered my question.

October 27, 2010
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Jeez.
For one, there were many other posters here with the same concerns
as lolli - not quite sure you chose to single her out and threaten
just her.

Also, seniority on
this site doesn't constitute respect. You've got to give respect to
get it, and honestly, I've seen you disrespect more people on this
site than I can count.

I still don't get
what your deal is, and am not even sure if this whole rant has any
truth to it, since still, no real explanation was given to those
who offered their support and empathy.

Weird.

October 27, 2010
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oh my
god...what a interesting, sad and very scary thread...now I know
why I left here, ugh:(

October 27, 2010
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Yes,
Hepburn....it answered my question as well 😉

Shanster...I'm
pretty sure I can answer you question for you. WD likes to live in
his own delusional little world and only cares to communicate with
people who buy his bullshit hook, line and sinker and give him
attention. I've never been one to do that because I always felt
that if all we ever did was "coddle" people (for lack of a better
word), they would never be able to move past whatever it was that
was holding him back. That is what people did for me here and in
therapy and that is what I have tried to do for others.
Unfortunately for WD, despite his bullshit to contrary....he shows
(or at least has never shown here) any self-awareness or capacity
for insight and in fact, gets very defensive and downright nasty if
anyone tries to point out how others may perceive his
behavior.

I struck a nerve
with him long ago and no matter what I say or how I say it now, I
guess he just can't handle it coming from me. And I know
that...which is exactly why I don't mind saying the things that I
know others are thinking. It spares them from having to deal with
his attacks. For me, I have pretty thick skin and couldn't care
less what he thinks of me anyway.

My only question
is.....will he actutally explain himself to the others here that
actually did care? Or is he just going to use this as an excuse to
not have to explain the fact that he claims a former Miss Iowa was
brutally murdered yet no one can find a shred of evidence to
support that claim?

Tune in to
see.....

October 27, 2010
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I
meant to say, he has never shown any real self-awareness or
capacity for insight.

He's talked a good
game about self-awareness and insight but has actually shown just
the opposite.

In my opinion that
is.....

October 27, 2010
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Wow!!! This has been an "interesting" read.

I have one thing
in common with this thread.. I dated a Miss Iowa runner up for two
years. And, she is now 52 years old. So, maybe she is the loser to
the Miss Iowa in question? My runner up Miss Iowa still has hard
feelings with regards to losing that contest? You don't think she
could be involved in this caper... do you?

On a more serious
note, If my fiancee' was brutally murdered, I would be much to busy
to be hanging around the AAC web site. Just saying what I would be
doing.. or, not doing...

Frayed

October 27, 2010
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Wow
really powerful response from WD.

I do admit his
original posting was confusing, sad and shocking. But his response
to all concerned and confused was even more shocking.

I also respect all
users on this site not because I have to but because I believe all
deserve it.

October 27, 2010
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Oh
woeful_days of wanton_destruktion, when warrior_dogs prowl and
snarl in wormy_dumpsters!

Hah. Hi Lolli, hi
Shaney. Hi MsG. Hi invisible bevdee 😉
Hi Crystalwaters, you may be junior but you got it in one. Trust
your "do not engage" list.

Best I kan
tell,
1)Respect is earned by behaviour, not seniority.
2)Rule-breaking pots kan kall the kettle black all they want.
Doesn't make 'em right.
4)Warnings are inappropriate. Hah. Especially from lunatik
wrongly_diagnosed wannabe_diktators.

October 27, 2010
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That's interesting, #3 didn't post. Wonder why not, bekause I
kwoted the wantonly_destruktive poster re "go f**k yourself" in the
kontext of the supposed Kulture of this site.

Long as I'm here,
will korrect spelling of #1: Respekt is not earned by
seniority.

October 27, 2010
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banned at last!

October 27, 2010
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Well
Wonderous_Diva! Somehow I knew you'd klimb into the sand box and
krash the party with your kwik-witted kommentary.

Lots or
Weiner_Drool going around. Never a dull moment, eh
Kroiks?

October 27, 2010
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Why
Lolli?

Because she has
been a bully from way back and I don't want anything to do with
her.

Or else what,
Lolli?

Remember what
happened to twinks.

I have been going
through hell for two weeks. I've spent a lot of money on this case.
I'm traumatized as Ive ever been.

And I don't need
anybody giving me hell.

If you cant say
something helpful or supportive then I really don't need to hear
from you.

October 27, 2010
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Oh
and to all who have expressed sympathy and support: thank you very
much.

October 27, 2010
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worried_dad, i apologize for all the pain you feel now, the
pain i felt must be nothing compared to what you feel now, please,
i understand your anger, and yours must be multiplied a thousand
times more than mine ever has, but please allow me to speak in
defense of the people who accidently insulted you.

i agree with the
anomynity rule, i agree they shouldnt have looked it up, that was
an invasion of privacy, i wasnt even surprised when you didnt reply
back after so long, but you gave personal information, something
easily traceable, a murder, and a miss iowa winner, or contestee. i
dont blame them for looking it up, its understandable, when someone
who we have never met, but has helped us before is in pain, and
they actually give us a window to look into, some people look, some
dont. i didnt, to be honest, the thought of searching didnt even
cross my mind, and i wouldnt have wanted to either, its easier for
me hearing this without having a face to put to it, but some people
want to see the face.

for all we know,
miss iowa was a nickname you gave her. i dont care, i dont want to
know, all i want to know is that you are doing better, and that the
murdering son of a bitch is in jail or worse, as far as i am
concerned, i dont need to know anything else, other than you are
ok. which i know is near to impossible.

October 27, 2010
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and
to everyone else, i understand your frustration and confusion, but
does that give anyone free reign to throw around accusations? i
dont remember who or where, there were so many posts but many
accused this an of lying, cut and pasting, stolen identity, living
in a fantasy world, how did you expect him to respond when he came
back? i remember someone said that W_D posted somwhere else before
posting here, and that didnt make sense to you, maybe its because
he didnt want to remember the words he wrote, maybe he was trying
to run away from it. i understand your accusations i do, but i
think it is uunfair to make conclusions without hearing everyhting,
and if he doesnt feel like sharing, does it matter? someone is in
pain, when i was in pain, i came here and got support, because of
that i will freely offer support to anyone here, it is the least i
could do. you people have made certain nights for me easier to
sleep with. something i dont forget, and want to repay

October 27, 2010
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You
know what this reminds me of? When my little brother was killed. At
first I didnt believe it, hoped it was a mistaken idea. Then I was
hopelessly sad and had nightmares.

Then I got very
very angry. THat felt a lot better.

I am basically in
a constant rage right now.

October 27, 2010
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MsGuided,

No I am not very
coherent these days. And yes I felt like venting my spleen to the
world. And I did it first in the Rants and Raves section of
CL.

It's as simple a
that.

October 27, 2010
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WD. I
wasn't going to reply here anymore but since u addressed me I'll
answer.

Everyone here is
ill to certain degrees. That's what we all come here
for.

I can accept what
you just said; not being coherant.

We got a support
Fight 'n Flight smorgasboard here!

I hope u have
other means of support & therapy because this issue is going to
need that.

Be
well!

October 27, 2010
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listen, i cant tell you i understand, because that has never
happened to me, i cant tell you it will get better, becaue i
honestly dont know, in fact i doubt any of my words or anyone else
can make you feel better. i can tell you that i understand rage,
because i am always in anger. it does feel good, empowering, when
you see someone you hate looking up at you in fear, it feels very
good, justified. i can also tell you that i have nightmares not
about the things i did do, but what i wanted to do, it was so easy
to hurt people, i can only imagine how easy it is to go further, to
not stop at a punch, to not stop when they were bleeding, that is
what scares me, how easy it was, no one should ever feel that way.
i dont know the story that is currently going on besides what you
have shared, and i dont want to know any more than you want to
share, but what makes that man a true monster is that he never
stopped to think that something like what he was doing shouldnt be
so easy. so do whatever you want to this man, i dont blame, i dont
judge, i understand, but i do offer a warning, it is very easy to
NOT stop. and trust me when i say that it does keep you up at
night. dont give yourself more nightmares than you already
have

October 27, 2010
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Worried_Dad I am sorry for copying and pasting your rant from
CL. You came here for support. I know that your pain is real. I
believe that you are really going through a terrible
time.

October 27, 2010
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Hi
Msguided. Thanks. Yeah I have a pretty good support network. Most
of my friends are doctors. And employees for that matter. And
contrary to Lolli's jabs I am pretty much universally, loved,
admired and respected by the people in my personal and also
professional life, so I getting lots of love and good
advice.

I got over my
suicidal ideation problem last year thanks to a colleague who
happens to be an expert psychotherapist who specializes in trauma.
And she has major trauma crds. She actually was imprisoned by the
Nazis during WW2 in occupied Yugoslavia, escaped from prison an
made her way to bombed out Italy.

I've been through
something like this before, so I expect I'll make it through this
one. If I can start eating and sleeping again.

October 27, 2010
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Puptent:

Apology accepted.
And I apologize for having such a hair trigger and foul mouth. I'm
just...not in my right mind right now and I am so angry.

I don't like being
angry but it feels better than some alternative ways of
feeling.

October 27, 2010
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zarathustra,

After my baby
brother was murdered, I became filled with great rage. I was a
talented martial artist and not a bad detective at the time and was
definitely set on revenge.

But after I found
the Great Spirit, I lost the will to fight. Then I went through
seven kinds of hell, and it gentled me even more.

For several
reasons, I do not really believe in capital punishment, and
certainly do not feel qualified to act as judge, jury and
executioner.

Besides, I think
20 years to life in prison is a more severe punishment. I gather
that they don't treat guys like that so well on "the
inside."

I will confess
though: My Queen was an Italian American and some of her relatives
were famous, wealthy and powerful gangsters. I am ashamed to admit
that it did cross my mind to ask them to deal with the matter. It
crossed my mind pretty seriously for about an hour before I came to
my senses.

I don't want to be
mixed up with that sort and this world has had enough bloodshed
anyway.

That being said, I
feel no guilt about being fucking enraged.

October 27, 2010
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Hepburn,

No need for you to
apologize because you have given no offense.

It isn't
surprising that I am racting to this nightmare differently than
you. We are different people.

I never said I was
a "normal" person who reacts "normally" to life events, whatever
that means. In fact I am prtty sure I am not. I brood. I march back
and forth on my porch having heated arguments with my mental model
of my antagonist.

And, since I am a
man, anger is one of my primary psychological defense
mechanisms.

Ive been glued to
my telephone and computer screen since the 14th of the month,
trying to figure this stuff out. Except for the pacing out on my
cigarette smoking porch, which is adjacent to my bedroon, telephone
and computer.

Calling the
Sheriffs. Calling detectives. Calling MIss Iowa's old friend from
the FBI. Calling lots of people, particularly someones who knows
someones who knows someone who might know something. Hiring people
to drive long distances and ask questions. Doing computer research
so that I know who to send money to do the driving and ask the
questions.

And while I am
waiting for someone to call me back or email me, I will watch an
episode of South Park on my computer or something, anything to
distract me and make me laugh, that is, if I were capable of
laughter right now.

And yes, while I
am at it I found two minutes to vent my rage on the Rants and Raves
section of CL and then here.

That is how I am
dealing with it.

Sorry if I have
not been adequately responsive to folks on this thread but I am in
*total overwhelm* mode right now.

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