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WHO do you think will carry the US Presidential elections?
April 8, 2008
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April 10, 2008
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Obama should win, but I dont know, I havent been checking out McCain. Obama is going to be good for everyone involved atleast thats what I think.

April 11, 2008
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I don't know what I think.

free...why McCain?

guest: alot of people like Obama. It is hard to tell.

My sis loves Hilary and is campaigning for her a bit.

I just don't know.

April 11, 2008
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At this point, ANY of the three would be better than the moron we have right now!!!!!

(I wouldn't be surprised if Laura divorces him after all of this....)

Though I would personally like to see a Dem in the office, at least McCain, in my opinion has the rare character to honestly fess up and admit when he was wrong - as he has done when speaking about not voting for the MLK hoiday some years back.

So, I say - with all of the differences aside, it's a win-win situation all the way around no matter who wins.

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tBt...

How hysterical!! You are obviously talking about Mr. "SMARTS" uh.... 'parts' (the last speech that was given!).

April 21, 2008
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guest..
tell me why you think Obama will be good for everybody.

Even China wants him to be president. I don't remember an election where other countries have been so involved in our elections as this one and Obama. To me he is an enigma. He looks good on the outside, but something is very hazy on the inside to me.

April 21, 2008
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April 21, 2008
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It's hard to say,

Polls have indicated that Clinton or Obama would defeat John McCain...but the election is a long way off.

My opinion is that Clinton cannot beat McCain--Republicans hate her more than they do Obama and she will get out their vote.. Also, I think there is more "dirt" on her yet to come.

Between Obama and McCain...Again, I think it has to do with getting out the vote. Democrats seem pretty energized this election cycle, Republicans, less so. John McCain is "ok" as a Republican candidate, but he is nothing to write home about.

I think this election is really going to be about party--which party can get their voters out.

I think the Democrats have more momentum in that regard...now, anyway.

I've been following the politics discussion board...and there is a lot of energy out there in Whoville around the "Obama is a racist, Marxist, Muslim, nigger."

That kind of argument appeals to a lot of people, and it might actually work for the Republicans for getting out their voters.

April 22, 2008
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WD,
I agree the Democrats seem to be very energized this election. At one point I thought that Obama and Clinton would run together, but now maybe John Kerry will be Obama's running VP. The Dems really do want the Republicans out of there this time, I agree.

That is the thing about Obama...no one really knows what he is...lot's of labels, positive and negative. He is a great speaker, and has the ability to woo in spite of any negative remarks made about him.

McCain, to me, is too old, although I would vote for Ron Paul who is also in his 70's in a heartbeat. Will be interesting to see how the Repubs will handle the Demo nominee...maybe that is what they are waiting for before they step out in full force.

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Why do you think Obama will win?

April 22, 2008
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Obama....They all just want to win at the end, they will sell their soul to the devil to win, (OOPS) they have....well...we will see how much more I will pay in taxes and how much more I can afford not to live here in NY.....Oh well, like always Rich get Richer and Poorer get more benefits..Damn I'm stuck paying and cant afford shit.

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nevereverihope,

"Obama....They all just want to win at the end, they will sell their soul to the devil to win, (OOPS) they have"

This is an interesting comment. Do you believe in this sort of thing or were you being facicious? It caught my eye, because in some respects I am one of those people who could believe it.

April 24, 2008
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No, this is my belief.

April 24, 2008
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omw,

I dont know, I feel good about Obama. Clinton is definitely not good. McCain and Ron Paul that you mentioned, I dont know whose the best. I would vote for Obama mainly for his race, honestly. Why, because I think that will help minorities in this country a lot. Given the history of this country, I think an african american deserves to be president atleast once and this is a good time, I mean it is time. Yea, thats not how I should decide (on the basis of race) but if he was incompetent like Clinton is (to me), I would never vouch for him at all (say El Sharpton). Obama sounds good and has commonsense and stuff and looks natural and authentic to me.

Not considering race, I dont know who's the better candidate from obama, mccain and ron paul.

But then again I probably dont know more about politics than anyone here.

What do you think is wrong with Obama specifically if you had to say it out? Are you saying that he looks too perfect and smooth etc and tries to appear perfect etc? I can understand that but what if he's really like that inside? Then its a good thing.

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I guess the thing that has impressed me the most about Obama is his lack of hesitation to speak his mind.

He seems to be unfettered and quite used to being attacked and judged without merit....and is able to keep a very clear perspective and position in spite of it all.

This idea really hit home for me big time when at one point in watching Charlie Rose on PBS (great show - by the way...) Big time republican Arlen Specter (excuse spelling) had to admit that he thought Obama was a very "deep" guy.

That tells me alot.

From what I understand, Obama (from what others have said) also seems to be able to take a complete 180 degree and actually LISTENS and considers others with a totally different viewpoint than his own in an effort to learn.

That's quite impressive, in my book.

(Quite different than the moron currently in office. What's the name of a book someone wrote recently on GW....."Dead Wrong?")

Hillary, on the other hand is very "seasoned"

She KNOWS firsthand all of the political manuvers (excuse spelling) and has developed a much needed "tough skin" in the interim.
yet - my sense is that she still has some big-time lobbyists to eventually answer to with respect to campaign contributions while Obama - on the other hand - has been overwhelmed with contributions from just "regular folk" in a true whirlwind of a grass-roots campaign.

On one hand, being a woman - I would just LOVE to see another woman in charge of this country.

But - by the same token - have my reservations because of issues stated above....i.e. - obligations to powerful lobbyists.

Then again - If any of you have ever watched the show: "What Would You Do?"
(I think that it is called- airs on Friday nights in US)....time and time again it is the WOMEN whom really step up to the plate to confront various situations of mis-treatment, racial profiling etc.. - to name just one etc...head on -) that is something else to consider.

But - again....on the other hand - I feel that Obama has enough charisma to fully engage BOTH sides of the aisle - where Hillary might be lacking a little bit in that arena.

In ANY EVENT - the thing to take into consideration is just how "gracious" the eventual loser will be in going above and beyond their own personal motivations of power (and ego) (or the lack thereof) and really stand behind - whole-heartidly next to the Dem candidate whom actually does secure the nomination.

This is KEY.

It's my sense that whomever eventually secures the final nomination - that the "loser" will set aside any anomosity and convey a much needed "united front" with all eyes on what really is important....that being the general election in Novemeber.

My sense is that both are so passionate to see and not want - YET another 4 years of Bush economics - but a REAL change - that the DEM party will indeed - in the end...eventually UNITE - given the bigger and dire picture......all things considered.

Either way - I think that there is a major lesson to be learned here.

The so called "demographics" of like (talking about gender supporting gender and race supporting race) is just all over the place.

Perhaps THAT is the real lesson to be learned here.

That people are people...you know?

What's that ole yellowed book I have on one of my book shelves entitled "The Content of Our Character?"...oh yeah....by Shelby Steele.

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April 24, 2008
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PS - here is something else to consider with regard to other "black" men:

Harry Belefonte, Sidney Poitier and Roberto Clemente.

All were raised outside of the US.

All (from what I understand) knew nothing of racial inequality and segregation from their home lands until such time as they touched ground in the US.

Therefore, they had already just naturally "developed" a clear sense of self irrespective of the narrow-minded views still imposed and practiced and embraced in the American society as such....in the 1950's. 60's and 70's.

I am sure that all three went through quite an unsuspecting "cultural shock" when finally coming to this country and realizing that they now were considered something "less" of a man simply based on the color of their skin.

Can you imagine how they felt?

Really?

Can you even BEGIN to imagine????

To come from a place where "hey" just naturally and in all ways considered themselves an "equal" to everyone else as just a matter-of-fact mentality - then to all of a sudden come to a country where segregation was fully intact?

Talk about a major "culture-shock!"

That - all of a sudden - they were somehow and in someway...considered "less" simply and ONLY because of the color of their skin.

What a HUGE culture shock it must have been for these men!!!!!

Take a minute to really THINK about this!!!!!!

Have you ever heard any of them speak?

Harry Belefonte?

I saw him recently on the PBS "Tavis Smiley" show and was pretty much "blown away" by his staggering intelligence, clear and deep thoughtfulness and his absolute mastery of the english language.

Second to none, in my book.

Sidney Poitier.

Is it not one of the most memorable moments in cinematic history in the 1960's film (I believe) "In the Heat Of The Night" where the white sheriff "SLAPS" the Sidney Poitier character - and then - without a moments' hesitation - the Sidney character just AUTOMATICALLY slaps him back?????

Oh MY....what "wave lengths" that scene sent through the American audience......

(Still brings chills to my skin to to this day!!!!!)

Notwithstanding, Roberto Clemente.

Raised and reared in an environment where race and the color of your skin was just a non-issue.

Simply - just a "non-issue."

Come here to the states and realize - all of a sudden - that he could no longer inhabit the same hotel/motel room as the rest of the his white team-mates and had to somehow find other accomadations "elsewhere"...across the tracks?

Can you just IMAGINE what these men had to contend with?

Surely they must have felt as if they were going back in time....back to a place where folks were ignorant enough (back then) then to actually BELIEVE that the world was flat....you know?

Incredible!!!!!!

I can not IMAGINE what must have been going on in their minds........

I say all of this....I bring all of this up....to hopefully illustrate the very simple point that "people" may not be what exactly we were brought up to believe they are/weren't/are.

And - PS -it's OK to try and find something solid to "hold on to" as you realize this fantastic shift - as an "American".........warts...and all...........and are finally able to step aside your (our) own version just long enough to consider yet another DIFFERENT point of view.....

(OK - I've said my peace. Thank you for this opportunity!)

It is my hope that his country is NOW able to finally get beyond this race factor!!!!!!

All things considered.

tBt

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yea and I think him being president will help get over the race thing atleast somewhat. Thats going to take a longer time to vanish and smooth out completely though, maybe a couple of generations up to the point where there's good healthy self-esteem and stuff. UK is interesting, there's more uniformity among the races i.e. they all exhibit about the same good aura.

Clinton yea, is just not authentic. You can tell if somoene is putting on a show and she does that. I dont feel Obama does that. I feel he does it from the heart.

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guest,

I don't have anything against Obama's race, it wouldn't bother me one way or the other to have a 'black' man as President.

I don't know, it is just something that I 'sense' about him. Generally when I sense something about people I am not often wrong, so I pay attention to that intuition. He is a good speaker, yes. But I don't like how he gives Hillary these ominous looks while she is speaking about something in regard to him, and then WAIT until he is with his supporters and talk about her. I have concerns about whether or not he supports Israel or not, which would be crucial to the United States. And, he is also what is called by his church, "Afri-centric"...unlike Martin Luther King who loved his race and worked for it, but I don't think King would ever refer to himself as Afri-centric. I just have a feeling that Obama will change once he is in office. The public is enamored with him, and the public is ripe for someone like him sho comes across so strong and charming after Mr. Whats-his-Nuts...er, Mr. Bush, Jr. That bothers me too, all of the swooners begging for leadership and have determined Obama is the savior in this context. So I think it is a combination of both swooning, starving for sound leadership and people think he is it and will fix everything.

With Hillary, what you see is what you get. I think she would be excellent, but of course she has faults too. She is very intelligent and has held herself high, and has remained composed thorugh out it all. Ha, funny we disagree about this! 🙂

Ron Paul wanted to dump the IRS!!!!! YES!!! is all I can say about that!And, he is very open about some truths that apparently have been buried, but are hidden on the internet, IF you can find them.

Bottom line...it is scary.

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I don't think Republicans have a chance this election esp. because I think McCain is too much like Bush. I don't think Hilary can carries the respect she needs to win.

April 25, 2008
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I want to clarify that I am a southern white female. I so very much WANT to believe in Obama; but I don't. There is just too much "noise" surrounding him. Today I received an email from a gay friend about Meet Obama's Family and it was all taken in Africa with his family there. I have mainly ignored all the negative emails I have received but since she sent it and she absolutely despises the Clintons I at least read it. But I will vote for a yeller dawg before I will vote for Hillary. She just gives out this sense of entitlement like she DESERVES to be president.

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I don't think I want a president who doesn't feel they belong in the job. Earned maybe. I'm sure none of them feel they are the only ones that work that hard, but they HAVE TO project that on the outside or no one will have confidence in them, no matter what their qualities.

One thing I would have liked to see sooner from both Hillary and Obama would be for them to quit bashing each other and turn their debates and sound bites to issues rather than insults or platitudes. Even though I would like to see either one win, I am disappointed in both of them for this.

If either one towards the end of the debates in Pennsylvania would have just ignored the attempts at that crap and just started talking about ANYTHING else it would have made me stood up and cheer. Even Obama who was saying "these are not real issues" wasted too much time on how he really doesn't want to talk about how these are not real issues! Talk about something with SUBSTANCE!!!! Then talk some more about it! BOTH of YOU! Damn, the dem winner has my vote but they better get their acts together.

I would love to see SNL do a take off of those debates.

Well, this election was HANDED to the democrats. If they lose, what can I say? Horton certainly isn't hearing this Who.

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omw, I get you when you say you're afraid Obama might change once he's in office. I've had a tiny hunch of that myself but then when I reevaluate it looks to me.

Well, we are seeing this today in the news:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

“What particularly angered me was his suggestion somehow that my previous denunciation of his remarks were somehow political posturing,” said Obama, who added that Wright had shown “little regard for me” and seemed more concerned with “taking center stage.”

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I dont know if this is a good thing or bad. The fact that he was enraged and became emotional, is this kinda digging his own grave? I'm not sure. Other people might take this positively. I'm objective and am pretty much pro-Obama for now

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guest, exactly.

No matter how inflammatory Rev. Wright’s remarks were, why couldn’t Mr. Obama show some understanding and compassion for a man that meant so much to him. Why now, except for selfish and political reasons, would he publicly disgrace someone who has been like a father to him? Did he denounce Rev. Wright, or did he denounce his whole church. Is any political office worth the destruction of a personal relationship that obviously meant so much to both men? Is he a people pleaser who enjoys the limelight?

I dunno.

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Politicians all seem to thirst for the limelight. Don't they in fact, need it?

The preacher did not show Mr. Obama that much respect exactly in the media stunts he pulled, either. For a spiritual man, he's also got one hell of an ego.

Who knows.

Elections are getting to be more and more of a circus every time. Is it because of the media, because the public allows it, or both?

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