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When is crying and feeling bad okay?
October 5, 2008
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Hey all!

I listened to some church leaders talk about hope, being happy through the worst of trials, and how angels can come in the form of friends or strangers.

It made my day and I felt so fresh. but I have a question.

Is it okay to cry?

October 5, 2008
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Hmmm, my church leaders said the same thing this weekend. Of course it is okay to cry. Lots of prophets in the scriptures had hard times. Jesus Christ cried.
Personally i think if we don't cry we won't laugh either.

October 5, 2008
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Yes but Jesus Christ never cried for himself. He only cried for others. Even when he hung on a cross, he only cried because they knew not what they did.

so I guess I should rephrase my question. Is it okay to cry for ourselves, because we miss someone or we made a mistake,...?

October 6, 2008
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yes it is ok to cry for ourself. it is human.

October 6, 2008
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Okay
It is alright to cry for ourselves. The Lord showed compassion on those who cried and did not tell them to stop or told them it was wrong. I never thought that it wasn't okay, I just was studying Christ's life and didn't find an instance where he did. I was just wanting some imput. The way it was put. "It is human." put it in a different perspective for me. I suppose that Christ did not cry for Himself because He had no reason to cry, He had a perfect knowledge of all things and perfect faith in His Father, and no sins to repent for. I think I understand now. thank you. I guess we cry for the unspoken worries, and the first step in repentence is feeling the pain of doing wrong.

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October 6, 2008
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Wow Paws great insight. I still say if you can't cry, (for yourself)maybe then you can't laugh (at yourself)

October 6, 2008
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Hey there Paws :o)

How are you feeling these days?

October 6, 2008
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IMO, feelings are healing. They are a good starting point and a helpful source of information. I like the metaphor that feelings are like the fuel guage in my car. It informs me that I need to refuel. However, beyond that information, most of the remedies are to be found elsewhere; it is no use trying to twist the needle from empty to full; same with feelings.

Trying to deny our feelings because we think they are naughty or sinful is self defeating. Christ sweat beads of blood in Gesthemene. Could this be a metaphor for accepting your feelings and then endeavouring to understand their message via processes like prayer (lowly listening), journal writing, etc.

One affirmation I have found helpful is: "God never gives us a challenge without placing within us the resources to deal with that problem." In that sense, feelings could be the signal that we have some inner work to do which often leads to some changes in our outer world.

I certainly believe that Christ's behaviour on the Cross is intimately linked to his night of struggle in the Garden of Gesthemene.

October 7, 2008
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That is wonderful insight. Thank you very much ((WizardofAus))

Tiger Trainer, I like that. Do you think that the prophets in the scriptures needed to loosen up a little? There has got to be one prophet that enjoyed a good laugh.... Could you imagine a prophet pulling a fun prank on a friend...? He he.. Not making fun of, by the way... just having fun with. šŸ˜‰

Shaney!!

Im doing alright. I got elected as Vice President for the S.T.A.R.S. group at my school. "Students Taking A Right Stand" It should be fun. There was no one running against me to compete with... just the way I like it. šŸ˜‰ but a win is a win! We are making this week. CHARACTER COUNTS WEEK. Each day is a character trait and a student is nominated by teachers to be noticed for being an example of the trait of the day. I came up with a definition for HUMILITY. It is having great power with great self-control. do you agree? Do you have one for empathy?

on the down side. I have woken up with 2 anxiety attacks the past two weekends and threw up because of one of them. I have some stuff that imediately within 10 sec. takes the panic away. But sometimes I'll just stare at it and choose to suffer. I don't really know why. I know its not good, but it feels addicting to make myself suffer through things I don't have to.

Garcelle has one class and one final evaluation to do before she is a done deal Therapy dog! I can't wait! I have to go through 2 more programs to be able to visit schools and children's hospitals though. One involving an hour interview! bleh! OH well it will be so worth it. she is my better left leg.. šŸ˜‰

HUGS TO ALL!!!
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October 7, 2008
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Hey Paws :o) I found you!

What great a great organization to be a part of. And Vice President too? You must have shown some pretty promising leadership skills to land that job. You already are a good example of positive thinking and action, I'm sure you'll have a lot to offer the group. I like your definition of Humility. As for Empathy? How about: having the ability and heart to identify with someone else's feelings and experiences?

Have you identified what you're axious ABOUT? I hate to see you stuggle with anxiety. I'm glad that you have something to take for it, but I understand why you may not want to take it all the time. It seems, that if you CAN, dealing with what is making you anxious seems healthier than just using a pill to make it go away. You know? But I'm not familiar with the details of your situation. Are you seeing a doctor these days, because I know you said you had a hard time openning up to the one you had? I'm really hoping and praying that you can find the magical solution that will allow you to let go of the anxieties that you have, and be filled with the peace that you deserve. I can see that you do find peace in your faith, and that's a good thing.

Gar is almost a graduate?! Now THAT will be so much fun and so rewarding for you both! I can't wait to hear about your first visit. My mom's dog is taking agility classes because she's such a little firecracker! She's quick and really really smart. I'm hoping she actually gets to compete at some point. That will be hilarious since she only weighs 5 pounds!

I'm leaving work now. Hand in there paws and I'll check back later :o). Have sweet, peaceful and uninterrupted dreams tonight! love your firend - shaney

October 7, 2008
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I'm sorry for all the typos... WOW! :o/

October 7, 2008
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Well I dont' know of any ancient prophets who let their hair down but in proverbs it says, "A merry heart doeth good like a medicine."

October 9, 2008
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well I have some good new and the opposite of.
Good news is I was the winner of Character trait Humility today! Wahoo! They gave me a little ribbon and told me I had to wear it all day. Desperately searching for an excuse, I told them "No, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the trait it stands for? HUMILITY! NOT 'look, I'm the most humble person in the school!" he he!

not so good thing. I came home from school and my mom was crying because my other dog, not Gar, but Harmony has really REALLY bad teeth and apparently he just came to mom and droped a Molar tooth and part of his decayed Jaw on the floor!!!!She was crying becuase she felt so helpless becuase she "can't even take care of my dog," I don't know what to do! We have absolutely NO money to take him to the vet! 2 cats and 2 dogs need all shots, both dogs need heartworm testing and the medicine to prevent it, they both need frontline too, and Harm needs dental work BAD. We got an estimate and for all that we can't get it under 600$!! I went to get out my whole life savings since I was 8, never touched except for times when mom needed help with the bills. I only have 133$. I don't think that it is going to cut it. I don't know what to do. I better start doing artwork with commissions... I need more customers!! rich ones!

No, I don't see a doctor these days. and I don't really know what I am anxious about. I mean, there are plenty of things to be anxious about, money, school, my relatives suffereng from various illnesses, missing my old home, my slow going job...but nothing specifically, and I really do try really hard not to dwell on things.. I'm pretty good at that. the anxiety comes out of the blue most of the time, or if I am without a comfort item. I just realized the comfort item thing... never noticed that before. I ALWAYS have either a sweatshirt or fuzzy jacket or at least a longsleeve shirt, a blanket or a dog with me wherever I go. most of the time I don't where the jacket or sweatshirt, I just wad it up and hug it to my chest.

The greatest thing I have ever done as far as seeking help is I went and did Emotional Release/processing work. It uses muscle testing and your body's energy and also involves my religion. I did it the day before I moved and I was so at peace for many weeks after moving. but its like 60$ each time. no can do. But the interesting thing is. When the lady was doing the processing work, she said my energy was trapping itself trying to hide the bad stuff, but the point of the work is to release the bad stuff. so she waved her arm in front of my stomach "to get things stired up." And I bet I could feel she was stirring things up if my eyes were closed. It tickled (Yes, my family has too much fun with the fact that my tickle spot is right in front of my belly, not touching it. I can tell when they are doing it or not with a blindfold on.) and it made me a little sick. there must have been a lot of junk and my energy didn't like it being all unsettled. The signifficance, I just realized, is that I hold my blankets/jackets/sweatshirts right there in my gut. I do that because every time I don't, I get the shivers bad, even in the worst heat, I just shake for no reason. Huh. Do you think they are linked?

I hope your mom's dog gets to compete too. 5 pounds can fly much faster than 85 pounds!

Thanks for listening and caring.
Paws

October 10, 2008
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((((PAWS4PEACE&ANIMALS))))

October 15, 2008
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My dear friend had a heart attack! he is having a tripple bypass surgery right now. Please pray for him. Im catching rides with some tachers to visit him at the hospital tomorrow and friday too. I hope he is doing alright!

I have a question that popped into my head today. If you have any sort of answer, it would be appreciated. What is it called when someone believes that if they do some sort of "tradition" or "ritual" it transfers somehow to real life situations. and if they don't do it, something bad will happen, even though it has nothing to do with anything. There is like a type of symbolism in what ever the action is... what is that called?

October 15, 2008
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Sounds like, Supersition (SP)to me.

October 16, 2008
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The power of symbolism, ritual, metaphor, parable and even a Shakespearean tragedy or romance is the subtle absence of specific detail in the midst of a generic change process. We can be carried along by the general idea while attaching our own specifics to the general plot.

Take a phrase like "they all lived happily, ever after." Thinking about your life right now, what specific details would you attach to that idea within your own context? The general idea assures your unconscious that people do indeed live happily ever after, and then we have something on which to attach our unacknowledged desires. Like the placebo effect in healing, this can be a very powerful aid to planned change.

Joseph Murphy and Carl Jung have pointed out that these types of myths and rituals seem to have been found across many different cultures throughout history. Their work has explored the impact of these symbols and stories upon our unconscious minds. One therapeutic form of this approach is to write out your own personal fairy tale and read it over and over...and see what happens. If you feel like an ugly duckling, how would you feel if you discovered you were in fact a swan?

From personal experience, it seems to work in powerful and suprising ways.

However, in my opinion, the reverse is not true. If you do not forward that chain letter to 10 people in the next two hours, you will NOT be beset by tragedy...that is just an attempted deception by a third party.

October 17, 2008
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Paws,

It is called "magical thinking" in the psych world. superstition in the common world.

October 17, 2008
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SUPERSTITION.

- Ma Strong

October 22, 2008
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The Body ALWAYS has its reasons.

Its undeniable.

Feelings, I believe, if not expereinced full force (even on a molecular level) - get trapped - always knocking on your intellectual door to get acknowledged.

They are relentless in this way, IMO.

(Stubborn little beings that they are...)

What you resist will persist.

Bottom line.

I say, give into them.

Listen to what they have to say.

Believe you me - they will not let you rest until you do!!!!!

What you resist....WILL persist!!!!

Just the way it shakes out.

Venture completely into your 'shadow side.'

With both feet.

Cry, stamp your feet, break some dishes etc....

Finally FEEL and OWN the sadness, the disappointment, the utter despair the low-down 'heebie-jeebies' that you have been avoiding......

It'll finally set you free in the long run!!!!!!!!

Not a pretty process by any means.

But quite mandatory if you ever wish to exude any type of control over your own life.......

Tackle your demons.

Face them head-on.

Look 'em straight in the eye and say - you will NOT conqure me!!!!!!!

After that - know what - 'they' fail to exist.

Like a puff of smoke.

"They' no longer have power over you.

And then - you might finally realize - geesh - what a fool I was....to be afraid of basically.....nothing - afterall!!!!!!

deep breath.

Ahhhhh yes!!!!!!!

October 26, 2008
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((truthBtold)) thank you. I think you nailed it right on the head. WOW. that is powerful poetry. no really, you should get it published.

I know its simple, what you say, as in its not complicated. but it isn't easy either. its hard. this is something my friend said I should do too. she just told me to scream or cry or do something anything, just get something out. I couldn't. or I didn't want to....maybe...What is it that makes us want to resist and hide it? Its like there is a want to hurt, and want to have bad things happen to you.... a want you know is wrong to want. how do you give these voices a "talk to the hand" or no response at all?

October 27, 2008
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Hi PAws,
I was reading your quuestion and thought I would help to answer. I think we resist and hide our feelings because they are just too painful. Stuffing them, (we think) keeps matters status quo. Fear of not knowing what will happen if we feel that pain is frightening to some. Then again, fo some it is just easier to keep swallowing and stuffing it another day. But it does come out in other ways eventually, sometimes physically if we carry it around long enough.

Sometimes having or wanting bad things to happen is a norm that was learned in childhood, so it is familiar and more comfortable than the 'unknown'of having good things happen. Some feel undeserving of good things too, so they stick to the bad. I believe it is all fear based, and self-esteem based.

I for one have had one of the worst years of my life this past year, much much pain due to loss of a loved one, and one of my sons has had a horrible year, but he is going better, however it is not over yet in regard to his situation. I feel sick to my stomach and feel as if a much needed vacation is what will make me feel better. I am tired, but then I carry around alot myself, by myself. It is taking its toll. I am very independent that way, and soemtiems wonder if I just believe that I am undeserving, which of course is not true, but it is ingrained in my thinking from childhood. I do believe in God though so that is a HUGE help.

Hope you find some answers to ease your mind.

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good grief, apologies for all of the typos! šŸ™‚

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