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What the heck happened to AAC's Look and Feel?!
January 6, 2011
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I appreciate the effort that went into the new design, but my first impression is that the new design is really hard on the eyes--very busy, generic 21st Century blog style and also quite ugly.  Also hard to navigate.

 

I like the formatting tools.

 

But wow.  Don't know if I can get used to this.

January 6, 2011
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I HATE this new look and format. I would be willing to pay money to have it back the way it was. This sucks.

I encourage anyone who wants to provide feedback on this site to send an email to [email protected] so they can be sure to know exactly what we think of this BS.

January 6, 2011
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Guest,

 

My shock at the new format goes beyond "What the Fuck?!"  I am at the point of "what the Fucking Hell is fucky-fucking Going On here?!!!"

 

My suspicion at this point is that

 

1) The SC got sick or died and the site was sold to some really bad site designers.

 

2) The site has been completely hacked/hijacked/diverted  by a Russian Spam network.  We might not even be posting on AAC anymore.I have some evidence to support that idea. 

 

3) Both #1 and #2 have happened.

 

I cannot imagine that the SC that we knew and loved for so long would Ever, EVER allow the site to come to this state of disrepair and ugliness.

 

There is also a HUGE RED FLAG!!

 

The "welcome to the new AAC" thingamabob states that the old AAC did not require posters to have an email address!   Hello?  To post on AAC you have ALWAYS had to have an email address.

That makes me suspect that the site we are posting on now is a *Fake* AAC site created for the purpose of *phishing* for email addresses and passwords that will be used for really evil purposes.

 

Let's get to the bottom of this why don't we.

January 7, 2011
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hey worried dad, i have had contact with the site administrater, and i do not share your concerns, i think they probably just got a bigger budget and redesigned the site, have you noticed that it is pushing mor for people to get help? i think they didnt realize how much chatter went on here, and they neevr expected the threads to be so popular. i seriously doubt it is am evil russian corporaation, i tried to log in and they told me my password was wrong, i emailed them they resonded pretty quickly and it was not an auto response, they said that they did have my nickname registered to that email adress and they apologize. anonymousty isnt neccesary anymor, and i think thats becuase of the somewhat recent chatter been going on about asking about site rules, so they just scrapped them.

January 7, 2011
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Thanks for spreading more paranoi WD.Yell

  U know it's all this negative shit that brings the place down. EVERYONE can maintain their anonymity if they want.

 I for one put my confusion aside and am still grateful for the site. I like the new format, the flexibility, the various sections so issues can be dealt with more directly. It also opens up the place for new posters IF everyone stops polluting it with this paranoi. They kept the origional colour scheme, and there are a few glitches but I think if people stick with the technical aspects, without all this negative emotional bantor, about the CHANGE, rallying others to hate it, it would be more comfortable and welcoming.

 

 Whoever made the change put a lot of effort into it and it's FREE for us. Before donations were needed and not everyone donated.Hm. That makes me think.

 A lot of people here are UNGRATEFUL, too controlling and all the complaining is disgusting. Period. Get mad at me now. It's a HUGE Blame loop that needs to GO!

 

 My responsibility? I complained about no moderation. Now we have it. I didn't like the nontransparent format. Now we got it. I saw the simplistic style as a hindrance to growth and compatibility for most people on the internet who want to find a place to share their problems and find support, and it created confusion because issues would bleed into threads where they didn't belong.  The specific sections keeps it organized and email notifications are sent to prevent confusion, not create them. I wanted anonymity to be a choice, not an absolute rule. I felt like my worst insecurities were being fed by the anonymity rule.

 

Z! I love your attitude. TYVM

 

 This is the last time I'm responding to all the criticism...I'm focused on making my life better, and doing all the things it takes for that to happen and I'm grateful for those who create an atmosphere to do so. Everywhere i can find it.

January 7, 2011
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wd, let's just look at a few things, because in every thing there are plusses and minuses.  Yes, the change is upsetting- change is disruptive to stability.  I liked going to AAC and first thing I saw was a scene with a pathway through tees, comforting to me.  The first time I went to the site I couldn't find the threads- the site is HUGE.  I landed there accidentally, as I landed in the forum here accidentally by clicking here and there.  I miss the old site, the way it looked and felt- I got used to it and it was a stable spot for me.

 

Now let's talk about what AAC had really become with no moderaton.  Let's get real here.

 

I got to where I felt like there were a few bully posters essentially running the site.  Let's face it, you couldn't post for support without being attacked.  Like every friggin time!  I couldn't either.  Did you see bevdees last reach out for support?  some ding bat shows up, posts something that chased people away and she couldn't get support anymore.  That was on support side, people stopped reaching back to her after that.  I hated the lack of moderation.  Nothing worse than logging on to the site where I'd become comfortable and seeing this post :  "andii, fuck you"  at a time when I couldn't cry anymore because i'd been crying all night and day.  What kind of people say that on a site like this and why was it allowed?  A whole thread became devoted to making fun of me, accusing me, laughing at me, calling me names.  a whole thread!  I never did that to anybody wd.  I did not deserve it.  And it happened to you, too wd.  It happened to a number of people.  Many posters had said they don't post anymore, they just read, because of precisely this kind of thing. All AboutCounseling had become AllAboutBullying, a playground for a few bullies.  People read the threads, nobody responded.  Schoolyard fights where somebody's getting jumped and everybody else gathers around and watches.  Presumably because they didn't know what to do or say, and emails to the SC were acknowledged with an automated response.  Lack of moderation was a problem and I'd be really surprised if you did not agree with that.

 

A few people during their bully fests would talk about how they were stalked and would advise others how to be safe and remain anonymous.  While this was going on wd, I got message on LinkedIn and facebook.  The messages?  WEll here's one:  "haha found ya ANDII maybe we WILL accept your invite and  stop and pay a visit at your front door and enjoy some tea together" 

 

RE email addresses.  If it bothers you wd, make one on yahoo and don't use your real name.  Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. C'mon.  I didn't have to use my email password did you?  I've never never been asked for my email password, just my email address.  Phishing I believe, is a scam where your passwords are obtained.  Am I mistaken?

 

I could go on and on, the reality is that AAC is a cool place but it needed help, and it got it.  Somebody spent alot of time, effort, and probably money to give that help.  I for one am truly grateful.

 

andii

January 7, 2011
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andii... spot on! I couldn't agree with you more- you too MsGuided. I like the new site, really like it a lot. It needed an over-haul, and some serious moderation. I don't think the trolling and bullying will be tolerated any longer.

 

Isis

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January 7, 2011
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Oh my goodness!  I did a couple posts and had to do math- AND the post did not appear quickly as it has in the past.  I'm one for puzzles- I think it's because I wasn't logged in!  I was viewed as a guest.  so perhaps it's awaiting moderation or something. 

 

This is really quite interestingSmile

January 7, 2011
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anoyther thingy!  I log in and check out liberation side, go farm (lol) do some laundry, the dishes, put away Christmas stuff and come back and I'm logged in on libs but I'm a guest on support.  Interesting. Vewwy  much so.  Had to share.

 

I think if we want to post, need to make sure we're logged in.

 

No math this time!

January 7, 2011
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Hi andii,

 

I don't mind having an email associated with this site.    I am annoyed that someone (from here I suspect) has hijacked my email and turned it into a spambot tool.  We'll have to see how moderation works out. 

 

Anyway, turns out I was right: The site is under new management.  I guess SC could take it anymore.

January 7, 2011
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hi wd,

 

I hope you knowI don't mean to be harsh and mean no illwill towards you.  I've just noticed throughout time that "GUMPH!" gets your attention.

 

You don't know that SC has not  left you or betrayed you.  It's the change that's upsetting, not the SC.  She may well be doing this change or be a part of it, and I would trust that if that's the case, she's doing it for the betterment of all.  Not to hurt you or anybody else.  I know all too well the difficulty in trusting.  You speak so highly of the SC.  Trust this once I say.  Just this once, and trust one day at a time.  Let it be wd. 

 

(((wd)))

January 7, 2011
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Isis-what can I say?  hugs, that's what I can say!  Consider it saidSmile

January 8, 2011
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Still farming I see...  LOL... hugs right back at you.

I mastered poinsettias and have now moved onto watermelons... now I don't have to work on my farm for three days before it's harvest time.

Where the heck did that thread go???

 

Hi Worried Dad, hope you cheer up soon. Laugh

January 8, 2011
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Okie dokey wd I'm gonna have to concede a little bit to yaWink

 

I googled my name and there it was on the screen along with something along the lines "AllAboutCounseling, member since Sep 27 with the email address that I used here" and a couple other things.  It was a tad disturbing.  To me anyhow.

 

So I changed my profile and thought perhaps I should share with y'all/  Curious people lke to google. Right on my profile, (I think I read this in a post somewhere) it says the info is displayed in a little picture.  I didn't read that part I guess.

 

andii

January 8, 2011
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Yikes... was it your actual real name, or your screen name?

I'm checking this out...

January 8, 2011
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My actual name because I had put it in my profile.  I googled my actual name and it came up like I said above.

January 8, 2011
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Hmmm... you must have to put first and last names. I only put my first name in my profile... and when I googled my full name, nothing came up except newspaper articles with my name in it. Nothing that would lead anyone to this site. I also googled my email address and found absolutely nothing- go figured. I feel safe here.

January 8, 2011
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I googled my actual name and my screen name this is exactly what came up.  The blanks had my name in them: (I copied and pasted )
Andii- Counseling, AllAbout
Jan 5, 2011 ... First Name, ____, Last Name, _____. Website. Location, Member Since, September 27, 2010. Short Biography. Central Californian naturalist ...
http://www.allaboutcounseling......ile&u... - Cached
Isis, I googled your screen name and did not find anything, for worried dad or bevdee or Msguided either.  But I did for a couple other posters.  If you click on it, shows your profile that's here
WAs I supposed to mark something on my profile to keep it private or something?  For me, cat's out of the bag. 
January 8, 2011
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Hi andii,

Well, I'm curious as to why you put your real name in your profile? 

January 8, 2011
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Yeah that was pretty dumb.   At first I tjhought it was for admin, then I realized we can see profiles here,  I did not realize that if somebody googled my name (somebody NOT from the site), it would link to this site.

 

googlethis and tell me what you find:

 

andii allaboutcounseling

 

that's exactly what came up when I googled my name

January 8, 2011
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I'm not trying to cause trouble please forgive me if it feels that way- I didn't realize my name would pop up and link to this site under google.  I thought I should share.

January 8, 2011
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Well at least you deleted it now.

So I googled what you asked and I googled mine too. It brings you back to this site with the threads. People on the "outside" would have to know your nic name here in order to put two and two together. Can't say I'm too crazy about that but at least it leads one back here and not somewhere else.

January 8, 2011
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sigh, I wonder why you didn't get what I copied and pasted above?  The name I had in my profile is not my real life name but let's suppose it was (this is why I felt the need to share).  Below is the name I had in my profile:  google it and tell me what you find, I'm going to google it again also and copy and paste.  If you don't find what I find then maybe I should ask them to delete these posts because I don't want to look like a friggin nut case and I don't lknow why you're not getting what I copied and pasted above.  I'm frustrated and feeling stupid now lol  please do humor me and google

 

andii taloski

January 8, 2011
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I got your LinkedIn account.

January 8, 2011
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I got the same thing I copied and pasted above.  Okay, this too weird, how do I edit posts?

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