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what is at rest is easy to hold
November 7, 2008
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ik heb die tekening bij angelfire weggehaald. Omdat ik de indruk heb dat dit jou (of wie dan ook) afhankelijk van mij kan maken in emotioneel en/of psychisch of sensueel opzicht. En dat is niet mijn intentie of bedoeling. Ook vroeger niet.

November 7, 2008
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True

Not understanding what you have said ...something about Angelfire taking ahold of you and something about making someone an emotional or psychological sensual object? And it is it not your intention of doing so..but then maybe so?

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November 7, 2008
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Is dit zorgvuldig moesten worden grappig? U zei dat u had erotische beelden verwijderd en het was of andere manier een betrokkenheid met iemand hier? Dit is bevrijding brouwen, niet een oppikken site. ; 0)

November 7, 2008
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Oh goody, the crypticism of a different language.

As if this sheds any light on it, this is from freetranslation.com, Dutch to English.
"I have that designs by angelfire removed. Because I the impression have that this you (or anyone) dependent on me can make in emotional and/or psychological or sensual respect. And that is not my intention or intention. Also previously not."

Also - I think this is how sassy MsG responded. "Is this carefully had to become funny? You said that you had erotic images removed and it was or other manner an involvement with someone here? This is liberation brew, pick up not a site"

[email protected] has been here a while, hasn't s/he?

November 7, 2008
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waar mijn magische paddestoelen en knoeiboelpijp is?

Amster amster dam dam dam!

November 7, 2008
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Ik weet niet wat te zeggen

November 7, 2008
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Bedankt voor het gegiechel

November 7, 2008
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bevdee: You're googling in Dutch now?

November 7, 2008
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Ik google alles dat ik niet begrijp.

(I google everything I don't understand)

I thought it was German at first. Freetranslation.com helps me communicate with Spanish speaking patients.

November 8, 2008
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I said "where's my magic mushrooms and hashpipe?" in Dutch.

Amsterdam of course! (That's all illegal here ;0( )

My family is Dutch!

Now do you know what I said?LOL

*winkers en "gegiechel"* (((googlevrouw/ googlewoman))

November 11, 2008
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The whole idea was for me to do an exercise in self-emptying, but I never expected some of you to read my posting let alone give a pretty accurate translation of what I said.

You all inspire me to wanna learn. To learn more of who I am and of who (all of ) you are.

And yes, I like to drink my brew ^0^

The thread title (‘what is at rest, is easy to hold’) is a quote by Lao Tzu. It is one of my favorites. Because of its zen-like essence or content. As a matter of fact, I do recall some of the ‘psycho-emotional’ phantasies I had about someone I knew a while ago (is this similar to making someone an emotional or psychological and sensual object ?) but with some people, turning a personal phantasy into reality, is not an option for me personally, as soon as - or, to the extent in which - I find or notice various forms or patterns of codependency creeping into the picture. At some point I realized that the memory of love or the loving thought of an imaginary friendship (or relationship) is (more) easy to hold and cherish and less of a task than trying to turn some personal phantasy into reality. Because I knew at the time that any attempt in that direction (making it real) would only burden me and weigh me down, producing a self-limiting outcome. So in a way, to the extent that my thoughts (mind, heart, love or anything fancy you’d like to substitute for it) are at rest, their weight, even in terms of importance, seems (more) easy to hold. Back then I felt somewhat relieved by the knowledge that I mostly needed to fight my fantasy (if at all) and not reality. In reality, nothing had happened. It was precisely reality that made my fantasy appear as unreal.

I love all the google magic !

He, ik zie de rook van een magische paddestoel uit mijn waterpijp opstijgen ......

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