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WD is a big fat Hypocrite and He needs to Apologize
March 12, 2006
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On the evolution thread, on 12-Mar-06 seekerw, asked me the very reasonable question.

"WD,

You remember that quote allegedly from Steve Gould you say I quoted? Where on this site did I quote that? If you're going to accuse me of something like that, I want to see it for myself. I don't remember everything I post."

So I thought sheesh just hit Ctrl F and look for "gould." And you know what? The misattributed, mutilated quote that had my panties in a bunch was not posted by SeekerW at all, but by On My Way!

Well Hush my mouth.

Roll me in corn meal and call me a hush puppy.

I read something that annoyed me, and because of my clumsy scolling and laziness automatically assumed that it was posted by the SeekerW.

I then ripped SeekerW three new orifices for the "horrendous crime" of missattributing quotes, accused him of misleading vulnerable youth, etc. What I did there was a colossal act of hypocrisy. Can you see the horrible irony here?

And I was on a roll; if I had kept going I might have next accused Seeker of excessive use of the lash, rum and sodomy before moving on to his complicity in Nazi war atrocities, the Mcarthy-era communist witch hunts, numerous violations of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty, and conspiracy to put flouride in our drinking water.

One of my favorite shows on the Web is called "YAAFM" and features a purple dinosaur-demon named Reginald who eloquently criticizes people for their acts of stupidity, hypocrisy and meanness, before delivering his famous punch line that the show is named for.

I think Reginald would be perfectly correct to say:

"WD: You. Are a Fucking. Moron!"

Gentle SeekerW: I am very, very sorry for what I did. I accused you of doing something you did not actually do; I criticized you for the harmful effects of something you did not do; I piously lectured you on the importance of intellectual honesty and scholarship. While doing so I violated the principles of intellectual honesty and scholarship. I acted like a big bully. That is NOT the AAC way.

Obviously that was confusing and harmful to you, Seeker. I imagine you spent quite a bit of time feeling bad about something you just didn't do--wracking your brains to remember what you did or when you did it. And I misled other people into thinking that you had done something you did not do.

That was a very stupid and unkind thing I did.

SeekerW, I am very sorry for the harm I did to you. I apologize. I was wrong, wrong, wrong.

If anyone else is reading this I want to say: I take it back.

SeekerW DID NOT post a fake quote misattributed to "Stephen Gould," and lifted from a quote-miner. SeekerW did not mislead anyone, or engage in poor scholarship or mislead anyone in anyway.

I did. The mistake I attributed to Seeker was actually my mistake.

SeekerW, you now forever have the right to use this episode to help me return to proper humility whenever I am too smug, too big for my britches, or just full of baloney. I hope you will be properly arch and humoerous when you do so.

You could say "WD, you sound like you may be succumbing to the Gould-Factor."

Or "WD: you are full of Goulash."

Or "WD: you sound like you have been hitting the Gould again."

Or "WD: that's a Gould-ish perspective you are spouting there."

Or "WD: All that glitters is not Gould."

Or you could just say "Gould."

Use your imagination.

And when you do, I will sit up, pay attention, and make sure that I am not making the kind of mistake I made with you recently.

I was mistaken. I was wrong. I did a bad thing. I hurt you SeekerW, and I am very sorry. I apologize. I take it back.

I never want to do that to you or anyone every again.

March 12, 2006
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WD.....ya big fat hypocrite. LOL

I'm glad to see that you publicly corrected your mistake (which we all make from time to time) and in a very humerous way at that.

See that....this is a place for learning and growing after all. I knew there was reason I keep coming back.

Love,
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March 12, 2006
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WD,

It's big of you to apologize like that, and so publicly. Goodness knows I've made my own share of impetuous postings and misreadings of people on this site.

However, ...

You didn't have to mention that it was OMW who actually posted that particular quote. Who actually posted it is irrelevant at this moment.

You could have also stated she was only passing along a quote she took on good faith and had reason to rely on.

You could have also mentioned that OMW had previosly admitted on the Evolution thread that she had indeed posted that quote. She freely volunteered that information and took ownership for what she did. She could have let me take the heat, but she's too big of a person to have done that.

I want to take this opportunity to thank OMW for stepping forward as she did. I should have thanked her when she very first stepped forward.

At first I took your word that it was me who'd posted that. It wasn't until OMW stepped forward that I thought to search the site for the quote. I never would done this otherwise.

So thank you, OMW, for being such an honest and responsible person.

Seeker

March 12, 2006
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Hi Seeker,

Well, I haven't had the conversation before with OMW and OMW has not claimed a scientific background which makes it a bit of a different thing.

Still, though, I am apologing to seekwr here, not OMW.

March 12, 2006
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WD,

ROFL!!!! Uh-oh, does this mean I am in trouble?!

March 12, 2006
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No OMW, you're not "in trouble." But you do want to beware the "quote farmers."

What was the name of that thread...I hate to repeat myself for such a long one...

March 12, 2006
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Well, still finding this humorous, the quote farmer you refer to, was actually a sermon given by my pastor on evolution. This particular pastor knows is stuff, ......you would like him. 🙂
love ya.

March 12, 2006
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WD,

I see I worried about OMW unnecessarily. She's not concerned. Why should I be?

Apologies accepted, of course. You're a good man, Charlie Brown! I look forward to continuing conversations with you.

Maybe sometime soon we could talk about something a little lighter. Any ideas? This spaghetti something or other sounds interesting. I wonder how similar its DNA is to ours.

Take care.

Seeker

March 12, 2006
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sheesh, yall have got me paranoid. hope i dont accidentally paraphrase anybody...believe me, it will be an accident.

March 12, 2006
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"WD: you sound like you have been hitting the Gould again."

LOL!!!!!!!Thanks for the giggle, WD. Bad, bad, terrible man that you are even. Such gould natured ribbing at yourself was definatly amusing for me...

March 12, 2006
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btw. hushpuppie. that is one eloguent
apology. best i've heard yet. 😉

March 12, 2006
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wd- cant accuse u of ever being a gould digger!!!;)

March 12, 2006
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WD.

The least that you can do now is to make a barbed wire whip and flagrate yourself.

On second thoughts, that's no good - you might enjoy the experience. 🙂

Catch ya on another fred lata on.

March 13, 2006
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Twinks, where have you been my dear, and how is life treating you???

March 13, 2006
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WD:

I am so gould to see a man stand up and apologize. Gould for you sir. And in such a gould poetic way; almost brought gould tears to my eyes. You are the gouldest. 🙂

March 13, 2006
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mama- u rock!!

March 13, 2006
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WD,

I've got it! If you get out of line again, I'll call you Gouldfinger -- because you're fingering somebody presumptuously.

I'm not implying, however, that I'm James Bond. Or should I say, I'm not Bond ... James Bond (spoken as "Bah nd".

March 13, 2006
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next time things get really tense around here hushpuppy can just pour himself a shot of gould slogger and toast aac. 🙂

March 13, 2006
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Gould Grief! :-0)

March 13, 2006
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OMW, guppy, and others,

LOL! This site is such a Gould mine of information and entertainment.

March 13, 2006
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hey, drink enough gould slogger and next thing we know wd. will think he's gouldy locks. ha ha

March 13, 2006
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and he will insist we all play around of gould fish!!!!!

March 13, 2006
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Guppy,

No, I'm afraid WD will be too busy flaggelating himself with the barbed wire he'll pass out. His evil twin Midas will then start falsifying quotes and turn them all to Gould.

March 13, 2006
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well, at least his feet will be warm in his gould toe socks......

March 13, 2006
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poor wd aka. hushpuppy. he opened himself wide for all this didn't he. and we are a mischevious lot......we always go for the gould.....

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