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Way of the Peaceful warrior (book) - anyone read it?
April 2, 2008
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I'm read this allegedly "life changing" book. Has anyone read it?

I'm on page 15 and so far its been some kind of fantasy. He meets this old man who has the ability to appear in difference places instantly. This is not real and if its not, why should I read this book? Anyone can write fiction. I'll ask my friend who recommended the book.

Symbolism or parables, no, I'd rather learn from facts and reality.

April 2, 2008
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guest,
I have heard of it, and heard good things about it. It is a book that I eventually plan to read, but have not done so. But I am not sure what is is about...probably about peace. The title itself could be a contradiction...thus maybe the theme, coz warriors are not usually peaceful. When I think of 'warrior' I think of an Indian Chief. If Geronimo had been peaceful?..who knows. On the other hand, maybe it is about warring against something peacefully.

Now my curiosity is raised. I will probably go out and buy the book this weekend! :0)

April 2, 2008
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Hi guest,

I've read it. It is a little slow in the beginning. "Peaceful Warrior" means to me anyway that you're fighting for peace with yourself.

The crux of the book is basically you make your own reality. It's the story of Dan Millman (the author) who with the help of a "guide" learns that through different lessons that he has to endure.

Millman also wrote "No Ordinary Moments" which I also read. Long time ago though.

Warriors, warriors we call ourselves.
We fight for splendid virtue, for high
endeavor, for sublime wisdom, therefore
we call ourselves warriors.

Aunguttara Nikaya

April 2, 2008
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thanks OMW, yea maybe its about fighting to keep peace and fight chaos and stuff.

Hepburn, so, the old man in the beginning is a fictional character, right? Because there's no way he can jump on the roof and all the stuff like that. I thought the story was too perfect.

See if its finctional, I cant get myself to accept it.

April 2, 2008
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The book is under fictional/philosophy/self-help.

It's been a while since I read it. (7 or 8 years)

I've experienced ghosts, poltergeists, aliens, etc. so I guess one persons fiction is another's reality. eh?

Whether you believe in that stuff or not, I think the message of the book is to try and find peace with yourself. It's the author's philosophy on how he did it.

I understand what you mean about if it doesn't make sense to you, then you wouldn't be interested.

Just like I can't get into Super Hero stuff. There's a message usually in those books and movies but how it's given and how it's written is what determines if a person is interested. Or if it makes an impression.

If you do decide to give PW a chance and read a little more, I'd be interested in what you think.

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April 3, 2008
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Thanks, I had the impression the book was based on real stuff. I'll still go on reading it for now but I'd have been happier if it contained stuff that actually happened. Maybe part of is true and if it is not, you know, he should just have told that. He didnt have to decorate it with fairy tales and stuff is how I feel.

Ok then, will let you know how it goes. I should read some of his reviews as well.

April 3, 2008
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guest,

I can see why your preference would be non-fiction. But I have found for me that I learn alot through fiction spiritual books....somewhere it becomes reality because it can be applicable to real life.

Why did you decide to read it?

April 3, 2008
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hmmmmmm
Maybe Ii should read some more fiction.

Sometimes the truth is hidden within fantasy.....it just seems a lighter way to find answers if you surrender to the imagination.

April 3, 2008
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hi OMW, yea, I'm reading it with an open but skeptic point of view. I wish I knew how much was true in that book, and how much was fictional. You can learn so much from a real life story, than from a fictional one, atleast thats true for me?

I decided to buy and read it because a friend recommended it. said it was really good.

April 5, 2008
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I'm reading it more. Not being too critical or negative but, he's saying stuff like:

"I did a sumersault, but something knocked me out and I landed flat on my face. I got up quickly and sat straight, embarrassed. Socrates was softly chuckling and smiling at me"

Really seems like "I slipped on a banana peel, and then the other guy started laughing", kind of humour.

I used to love this type of stuff when I was 10 or 12 years old. I would have loved it then for its style, even if I might not have understood the lessons of the book. At that time I even wrote essays in school that copied this style and got me good marks and I loved writing my own short stories, on the lines of these guys.

But now its looking to me as childish. All of the dialogue is like that and I'm on page 20.

"But but, how did you get up on that roof?"

"Ninjas"

"You mean you're a ninja"

"No, but once in life you have to be a ninja".

Ok I'm still reading it. But I think I'm right. Here's what some peoplpe have pointed out on reviews and I agree with them. I know, I'm only picking out the negative reviews. On average the book is rated 4.5/5.0 but then thats not how I feel:

- "are all ideal for younger readers who will probably enjoy this adventure tale. As with "The Way of the Peaceful Warrior", older readers should look elsewhere for inspiration."

- although perhaps more suited to teenagers than (as others have noted above) more experienced readers.

- As a matter of fact, if you truly want to read a book that will change your life without being so lame I suggest anything by Alexandre Dumas, Ayn Rand or Nathaniel Branden.
Wait a minute! This book did in fact change my life! It changed it because it got me to realize that if a woman you're seeing ever reccomends a piece of trash like this book to you, that you should run away as fast as your feet can carry you!

(that was a funny one)

- "The 'insight' into life is given through a mystical, supernatural old hippie called socrates - this makes the story far too abstract and cannot be applied to real life. Dan Millman has made a lot of money out of some very gullible people."

- "It read like a Disney story or a remake of the Karate Kid."

.... etc.etc.

Now this guy who recommended it to me, I always thought that he was too simple minded and stuff, so Iguess he hasnt changed. I had pity for the guy then and maybe its the case now as well.

So yea thats how I feel, its for young people, not adults.

But ... I will still read it more and might perhaps skip to parts. And I agree with one of the reviewer, it was great to read Nathiel Branden's book on self esteem, although I think if you'e read, you've read them all.

Again sorry to be too critical, oops! I think some people were able to get beyond the 'Disney' style and learn something from it, but me, I need some real stuff. It might help others who can read abstractly and stuff.

But you know what, in the end, I feel no one can change much, not after reading any book. I've bought and read some, didnt do much to me, although it was nice to read some of them and it gave me hope for a short time.

Phew, feel free to ignore this largely negative review of mine. Maybe I'm too critical well yea, that I am.

April 5, 2008
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plus if you see his picture on his website:

http://www.danmillman.com/

This is a fake smile. This is someone like me who is afraid of the world and dopesnt do what his heart is telling him to do, but what he thinks he should do because people expect that thing.

In short, not some real but sort of fake. From this picture alone, if I'd have seen this picture, I would have already been skeptical of the book. I know, maybe too judgemental of me, but thats how I am. I like seeing people and judging them, I think a person's character really does show up on their face, atleast to some extent.

April 5, 2008
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excuse my grammatical errors etc.

April 5, 2008
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haha, I liked the "If a woman refers the book, run......" that was funny.

Did you ever read "The Celestine Prophecy"? Everyone was raving about that book in the 90's. I read 5 pages and wondered what all the hoo-ha was about. Never did read it. Never gave it a chance. Didn't care! ha

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hehyea,and now thats making me think maybe I should be careful about this friend who recommended the book to me. I've had the suspicions before many years ago that he would tell secrets to others behind their backs and pretend to be sincere in front of them. I'll have to be careful now because yea I thought he had changed. Anyway yea.

Nope, i havent read that book. i looked in up in wikipedia and its talking about "spiritual" stuff? To me, anything "spiritual" is just hoopla hoo. For once, there is no such thing (in my athiestic belief) as a spirit, so the word is really pointless. If they want to talk about happiness, and how to be true to ourselves after an abusive childhood or other bad situations, then I'd be interested, because thats what I believe is the real goal. To be strongly true to ourselves. This is such an amazing quality and it solves everything. Self-esteem is also nice, but recently I started thinking about being authentic. It was what I had thought preciously too and it led me to thinking about self-esteem but it looks like perhaps, self-esteem is the by product of being true to our selves.

Because when we had an abusive childhood, we stopped listening to ourselves becuse if we did and said or did what we wanted to do, then we'd be faced with abuse. The key is to get that scared little person inside us, out again and practice being less and less fearful. Anyway.. i got a long way to go, proably might not get there and life will end then.

But yea when I read its about 9 spiritual paths, I was like, you know what, I dont need this. The word is all intellectual hype for everyone, religions or non-religious. Its a "safe" word that works for everyone (except very skeptical and critical people like me - gotta admit, once again).

If a book teaches me how to practice being true to myself, I would buy it right away. I'm sure books on this exist but again, I'm wondering, did the author really just want to make a money, or they really sharing some really good knowledge.

Most books are like that, the moment you put them down, you are back into your original lifestyle. Its just reading a book on how to swim. We cant learn it until we do it and for me, its been almost impossible to change no matter what. I can only hope then. Anyway, now I end my long rant.

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grammar mistakes again, oops.

April 5, 2008
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You might want to check out some Gary Zukov books. I followed him very closely for a few years and still consider him my "guru".

I thought Heart of the Soul was a very useful book. I gave them as Christmas presents one year.

I think you might like him.

Hep

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Did some searching on the book but the reviews were mixed so I'll pass for now, but thanks for the recommendation! I realize that different styles work for different people and my style is not necessary the "right" style.

April 7, 2008
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Hmmm, I don't think there is a right or wrong style. Whatever floats your boat, eh? At least you're checking "it" out. Which is more then I could say about a lot of people. I hope you find what you want.

Hep

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thanks! i'm still glad that i bought the book because i had to anyway since it was recommended by this old school friend and it does look like a lot of people find his stuff useful. I will ask my friend more about how the book helped him.

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