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The Scientist
June 21, 2005
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June 21, 2005

For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.

Robert Jastrow

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June 21, 2005
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This is a fundamental missunderstanding of what science is about.

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June 21, 2005
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Well, Science and theology basically address different things, and use different means to acheive different ends.

Theology has accomplished very little towards developing a germ theory of disease, antibiotics, etc. for example.

Science has done very little to advance our understanding of good and evil.

June 21, 2005
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Apples and oranges, kind of?...

June 21, 2005
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I believe science and religion do not oppose each other. In fact, they work with each other. I recall reading an article once whereby I read that many scientists were believers.

~Love, RAS~

June 21, 2005
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Science and "spirituality" are not neccessarily at odds, but science and religion often are. That is because "religion" usually has some dogma which may be inconsistent with scientific findings. For example, the Bible describes a flood that covered the earth recently and that all terrestrial animals come from animals that survived on the ark. That idea does not really work for scientists.

Scientists, in general, do not have any objection to "spiritual" principles like "Thou Shalt Not Kill."

June 21, 2005
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Science:
There is not one human being in this world that has the same finger print or iris in their eye.

Theology:
How did this happen?

yuk, yuk. oh, the fun!!

June 21, 2005
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Scientific theory deals with principles based on the physical world that we can experience and study in one way or another.

Religion involves faith in things unseen, unknown, and unknowable.

Kansas Board of Education, anyone? barf.

June 21, 2005
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Science is good at helping us figure our good ways to get things. It is not so good at helping us figure out what is a good life, or a good person.

June 22, 2005
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Precisely. The latter is philosophy - esp. metaphysics & ethics.

Theology is concerned with formulating explanations & presenting arguments - often as rigid dogma - about the nature of reality & the origins & purpose of human life according to various beliefs in personified 'gods' and what self-selected people (usually men) tell others that their particular 'god' has 'told them' - often through their particular interpretations of selected ancient texts. [Usually the Semitic ones pertaining to the nomadic Hebrews: then Judaism, Christianity and Islam.]

Other religions are less dogmatic & systematised, and are more concerned with one's personal journey than with imposing conformity & gaining power.

Once we get beyond dogma and gods and consider God ourselves, with our own "mind & heart & soul & strength", we enter the path to Gnosis and relationship, which is beyond the realm of doctrinal, didactic theology and can only be experienced directly (eg. as Jesus did & taught, & the Buddha, etc.)

Who is this "Professor Jastrow" anyway, & does HE want to sit on top of a mountain for centuries? WHY?! What good would that do the world or anyone?!

My opinions only. No offence intended to anyone.
Happy Solstice & all it symbolises in the outer & inner worlds!
Blessings - gazelle.

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