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The Grieving of a nation..................
January 16, 2008
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Do you all might suppose (talking to my US buds here....) that, in part, the need for anti-depressents is not so much geared towards those with an actual need for such ailments such as depression etc...(though I am quite certain that this need exists)....but more so to the fact that we have to just grieve the life that we once had thought a "given" of sorts in terms of the "American Dream" and "Retirement" phase which frankly, doesn't seem to be ruling in our favor??????

Given folks with a real need for depression is doubled and indeed, compounded, with this yet other ("hit us up side the head out of nowhere type of) avenue of disappointment brought upon the now - what must be now termed as "illusion" to a safe and secure future????

Are we late type of baby-boomers being given a double-whammy here???????

(I'm kind of thinking so.....much to my own chagrin......:-(

Doubles and compounds our needs???????

January 16, 2008
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Im sorry for the baby boomers and all but Im south of the Equator, Brazil, and depression meds are a biggie here, too. (We could have used them forever).

IMO, as the developed world has more materially, their souls cry out for spiritual food which is lacking. Thus the need for meds. As for the poor people, even slums here have television and see only the good things thru soap operas and movies. they crave a better life even more because they believe what they watch on TV. Their depression med is illegal drugs.

January 17, 2008
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I struggle with depression because of the lack of peace and harmony in my life. I think.

Here's an example. I work in my backyard everyday- it's huge and it's zen- the hillside with the pine trees and ferns and various plants and stream with waterfalls falling into a bottom koi pond- flowers and such. And of course bird feeders everywhere- I like birds.

So I'm sitting out there this afternoon by the bottom fall enjoying a drink and the peace, watching the birds at the feeders and down comes this hawk out of nowhere and snatches a bird- feathers go everywhere and birdie is gone.

I thought I was in a meditative state but the thought that ran through my head was "that was really fucking shitty"

so I don't think I was.

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January 17, 2008
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For the bird who was taken by the hawk "that [really] was really fucking shitty".

Of course this is what I perceive from my deluded perspective perhaps not from that of the bird's. It may well be that two milliseconds after the 'sweet wittle birdie' felt the hawk's talons, its limited consciousness of 'selfhood' was viewing the whole episode from above and devoid of any feelings of pain as the biological process that was once a functioning part of your garden, was shutting down and taking on a new role of sustenance for the hawk and it's 'wittle' chicks.

Prior to that seemingly 'terminal' event, the 'sweet wittle birdie' was probably devouring insects in a very predatorial fashion itself.

In truth, all is impermanent, constantly changing, arising, abiding and declining, interdependent and without any inherent 'self-hood'.

Dissatisfaction is with us all to varying degrees. We don't like losing what we cling to that we percieve as sustaining us in some way. We don't like not getting what we think we should have. We crave peace and happiness yet we know not how to achieve such a state of being.

We all seem to think that happiness can be wrought and wrung out of hammering the world outside of our skinbags into what we think fits our image of utopia. What we, especially me, don't realize at a very profound and deep level is that happiness comes from having an ungrasping mindset that is at peace and full of compassion for all suffering, dissatisfied beings, human and otherwise. Such a mindset is a mind that has the true wisdom to see through the delusions of the disturbed mind and its hellish creations. Yes, but ... ... ...

The happiest man in the world is said to be Matthieu Ricard, a Buddhist scholar/monk. Neuroscientists of high repute have scanned his brain in their research into the relationship between brain functioning and 'happiness'. Their findings convince them that Matthieu has found the answer. Matthieu Richard, a biologist, has a PhD in cell genetics, was with the Pasteur Institute in France and gave it all up 30 odd years ago to become a Buddhist scholar. He said of the 6 hours meditation he performs every day:

"It is a very deep way of being; a way of being that has to do with inner freedom, with inner peace; with freedom from what? Freedom from destructive emotions, freedom from anger, from obsession, from jealousy, from pride - not that you become dull like a vegetable, but you become free which is very different." Perhaps the Dalai Lama is Richard's competition for the title of the happiest human on this planet. But neither care about such a title.

Not new stuff! Just stuff that needs individually rediscovering again and again with the advent of every new human being born! We all need to turn within to discover who we are and what makes us tick!

That's my quest, not my achievement yet.

"The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n." - from John Milton's 'Paradise Lost'.

January 22, 2008
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"free"....Tis my quest indeed.

Tez, thank you for answering my post.

I have been bothered my entire life by the predatory cycle of this plane.

Many people find this aspect of nature marvelous and wonderful. I do not. I find it quite disturbing and unsettling. I'm not sure why.

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