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The Executive Order Above All E.O'.s
October 16, 2003
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Before or after reading this you might want to trip down to your local video store and pick up "Animal Farm", not the cartoon one, but the one with live animals and compare that to this....not much difference.

The Executive Order Above All Executive Orders - 1996 Paula Demers

On June 5, 1994, Clinton signed EO 12919 which gives the president executive (dictatorial) control over, well, everything. Once you understand that there is nothing which is being done on Capitol Hill for the benefit of the American people, you begin to understand that everything is being done to the detriment of
the American people. Once all of the detrimental things which are
being done to the American people from Capitol Hill reach critical
mass, EO 12919 gives the president the powers of absolute rule.

According to the United States Constitution, Article 1, only Congress shall make federal law. However, since the "War and
Emergency Powers Act" of 1933, every president has usurped lawmaking
powers. Their "laws" are called Executive Orders (EOs). These EOs, not our Constitution, are what is governing
America today. The "War and Emergency Powers
Act" enables that the president to declare a
national emergency, and thereby become a dictator. Presidents can also carefully choose their words and declare a "war" on anything, in order to give them dictatorial control. For example, the "War on Drugs" makes it possible to use federal authorities,
such as FBI, FEMA, BATF, and the military against American citizens. A well-known
example is Waco. Another example is Hurricane
Opal.

After Florida was declared a national emergency, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) arrived on the scene and residents were placed under marshal law (restricted to the point of not going
outside their door). When the federal government does this, it is going against the Constitution.

The "War and Emergency Powers Act" is an
unconstitutional act on the part of our government, created so that presidents can
bypass Congress, and do whatever they choose. It also makes it possible to do away with posse comitatus in cases of "emergency." Posse comitatus is what protects American citizens from the military
being used against them. In Germany, the military was used against the German citizens. The German government also had its Gestapo to enforce the dictates of Hitler. Now, in an American "emergency," the
military can be used against American citizens and the federal government has its own Gestapo in the form of the BATF, FBI, and
FEMA.

these EOs have not been widely publicized. If they were, 250 million Americans would not tolerate it. But you can get copies
of them. They are all printed in the U.S. Federal Register and have the force of law when activated by a president.

You can contact your congressman for information on how to get copies of these EOs, or check your local library.

Here are a few examples of some of the EOs and their purposes:

10995--Federal seizure of all communications
media in the United States;

10997--Federal seizure of all electric power, fuels,minerals, public and private;

10998--Federal seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private and all farms and equipment;

10999--Federal seizure of all means of transportation, including cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control
over all highways, seaports and water ways;

11000--Federal seizure of American people for work forces under federal supervision, including the splitting up of families if the government so desires;

11001--Federal seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, both public and private;

11002--Empowers the Postmaster General to
register all men, women and children in the United States of America;

11003--Federal seizure of all airports and aircraft;

11004--Federal seizure of all housing and finances and authority to establish Forced Relocation. Authority to designate areas to be abandoned as "unsafe," establish new
locations for the populations, relocate communities, build new housing with public
funds;

11005--Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, both public and private;

11051--Provides FEMA complete authorization to put above orders into effect in times of increased international tension of
economic or financial crisis (FEMA will be in control in case of "National Emergency").
President Clinton wrote one EO that can cover all of these.

He wrote EO12919 on June 3, 1994, which was
released on June 6, 1994.

This EO will be the only thing he needs to enact in order to become a fully empowered dictator. It covers all of the EO's mentioned
previously. The only thing this EO doesn’t do is define WHAT the national emergency would have to be in order for this EO to be
signed. Please keep that in mind. Anything can be declared a national emergency to facilitate EO 12919 being enacted.

Here is the summary of President Clinton’s EO 12919:

Part one of the order describes the purpose,
policy and how this EO would be implemented. In section 103 of part one, it mandates
that federal departments and agencies will be
responsible to bring all the things described in this order about. This means that all individual state departments will have no say in what is happening, so it goes without saying that the American citizens
will have no say. These federal departments shall identify the requirements for
the "full spectrum of national security emergencies. " This includes
the "military, industrial and essential civilian demand.

" Part of their job will be to "foster cooperation between the defense and
commercial sectors."

Section 104 empowers FEMA to oversee the
carrying out of the EO. FEMA has already been "on the scene" with the several
"national emergencies" that have taken place
(hurricanes and floods are a couple of examples). When this EO is implemented, FEMA will be responsible to be an advisor for the National Security Council. It will coordinate the plans and the programs for
the "authorities and functions delegated." It will establish procedures to resolve
conflicts and issues that may come up while
implementing this order.

FEMA will report to the president on a regular basis. According to Part Two of Clinton’s EO 12919, the president
will delegate authority to allocate the materials, services, and facilities necessary to promote the national defense. The various agency heads that will have designated assignments will be: The Secretary of Agriculture, The Secretary of Energy, The Secretary of health and Human Services, The Secretary of Transportation, The Secretary of Defense and The Secretary of Commerce.

FEMA will be used to resolve any problems with issues between the various agencies. All
[Imadepartment heads will give their findings to the president for
approval. We will be going into detail about what these department heads will be doing a little further on in the report.

Part Three of EO 12919 explains how this will be financed.

The Federal Reserve will be heavily involved. Under section 310 it is
discussed how the critical items list they will need to take care of the national emergency will be handled. Each agency
head will ensure that all the critical components and technology items are available
from reliable sources to "meet defense requirements during peacetime, graduated mobilization, and national emergency."

Part Seven concerns me. It’s entitled "Labor Supply. " It is almost common knowledge to freedom lovers that there are civilian
labor camps on military installations. There are also processing centers where people can be separated to go to the various camps. It
will be the Secretary of Labor’s job to: (a) "Collect, analyze and maintain data needed to make a continuing appraisal of the nation’s labor requirements and the supply of workers for purposes of national
defense." Under section (c) they are to "formulate plans, programs and policies for meeting for defense and essential
civilian labor requirements." Section (e) talks about the Secretary of Labor
determining the jobs and the skills that will be critical to meeting all the labor requirements for defense as well as essential civilian activities. Keep in mind that FEMA is the organization behind the
civilian labor camps. They are also the organization that will make this executive order go smoothly.

Part Nine, Section 901, is interesting. It talks about the National Defense Executive Reserve (NDER). This is an executive
branch composed of people of various parts of the private sector, along with full-time federal employees. Its purpose is to train
people in executive positions in the federal government in case of an emergency that would require that type of employment. FEMA, of course, will coordinate the NDER program activities of the departments and agencies.

In section Part Six, Section 602, we get down to what it means to the average citizen. In the case of a presidential decree of national emergency, this is how you and I will be affected:

The president of the United States, with the help of federal agencies, will have control. We will not be including all the subsections, just the ones that hit American citizens where we live:

(a) They will control all transportation, "regardless of
ownership." This means that if they need your car, they’ve got it.

They will control all public transportation also.

(b) They will control all forms of energy, including "petroleum, gas (natural and manufactured), electricity, solid fuels
(including all forms of coal), atomic energy, and the production,
conservation, use, control, and distribution (including pipelines)."
This means the federal government will have complete control over who
will have power (electricity, etc.) and who won’t. They will be able
to "pull the plug" on us at their discretion.

(c) They will control all farm equipment. Farmers will not have to be part of "the production or preparation for market use of
food resources." They did this in Russia. The farmers worked for the government.

(d) They will control all fertilizer. This means that any product, or combination of products that contain one or more of the
elements--nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium
--will be able to be confiscated by the government. The reason they have this combination is because it includes anything that can be used as a plant nutrient.

If you want a garden, forget it.

(e) They will control all food resources. ALL means ALL.

This includes all "commodities and products, simple, mixed, or compound, or complements to such commodities or products that are
being ingested by either human beings or animals..

" This includes all "starches, sugars, vegetable and animal or marine fats and oils,
cotton, tobacco, wool mohair, hemp, flax fiber, and naval stores."

That means they can come into your house and take all your food. Period. Catherine Bertini, the executive director "UN
World Food Program" made an interesting comment in Beijng, China, at the UN 4th
World Conference on Women in September, 1995
. She said, "Food is power. We use it to change behavior. Some may call that bribery. we do not apologize."

(f) They will control all food resource facilities. This means "plants, machinery, vehicles (including on farm), and other
facilities required for production, processing, distribution and
storage (including cold food storage)." They go on to say that it includes "livestock and poultry feed and seed." In other words, they
will control anything that has to do with food.

(j) They will control all health resources. This means EVERYTHING. They will have control over all "materials facilities,
health supplies, and equipment (including
pharmaceutical, blood collecting and dispensing supplies, biological,
surgical textiles, and emergency surgical instruments and supplies).

"They will be able to come into your home and take your medicines.

(k) They will control all metals and minerals.

(m) They will control all water resources.

ALL usable water from all of the sources within the jurisdiction of the United States.
All the water that can be "managed, controlled and allocated to meet
emergency requirements." Not only will they be able to turn off your water supply, they can come and take any water you have stored in your house.

How many of you folks knew about this? I find it very interesting that one person, the president of the United States, has
the authority to control every person in the country. This EO gives step by step instructions on the complete take over
and control of every American.

One of the main things that trouble me is that it eliminates the dignity and individuality of human life.

It brings Americans down to the level of domesticated animals. Animals have no
control over their owners. Animals have no possessions. Domesticated animals don’t eat unless their owners feed them. Some animals work for their owners. Some animals are used in lab experiments for research purposes.

Animals are sometimes put to sleep when they
become old, crippled or weak.

We have had an abnormally large number of
presidentially declared "national emergencies." Each time, FEMA has been on the
scene. In two instances I know of, they have not allowed people out of their own homes (after Hurricane Opal and the flood in
Pennsylvania). Could these be practice runs?

October 18, 2003
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Ladeska

The EO fears you express are as you say - scary!

'One of the main things that trouble me is that it eliminates the dignity and individuality of human life.' ------(Words to hang our hopes on.)

I feel at my age I should have something to say about this information - I feel a little numb - and yet I find myself wanting to make some worthwhile comment,

Yes Hitler did use these powers and people went along with the resulting horrors.

'Schindler's List' - Aldus Huxley's 'Brave New World' -all described a way out of fortress EO's . But 30 million died throughout this madman's reign.

Do you think history and people power is sufficient to stop this ever happening again?

You - and no doubt many more can bring this to our attention - I have hope because you are able to say this to a free world -or is there an EO being drafted banning freedom of speech!

Anam.

October 18, 2003
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Sadly enough Anam, under our new Patriot Act, someone can pull up at our door and whisk us away in a van, lock us up and be held indefinitely because we are under "suspicion" of some kind. We don't have a right to a lawyer, our family doesn't have to be told and we don't have to have a trial either. How about them apples? I mean, in today's climate you can be considered a "terrorist" if you don't agree with the status quo.... If you're not for me, Bush has said, then you're against me. That pretty much nails it down. And he also has GOD on his side, too. Hm,m,m...

But it's already there in our laws. People just don't know what the Patriot Act is and how it "can be used" against US. Everyone thinks - OH, that can't happen to Americans! We're Special!! Yea, well, there are alot of other people that have gone before us who thought the very same thing....

Alot of laws are EO's are being locked into place that are more about making prisoners of us, than they are about terrorism. People don't get that one though. They believe all the hype. And hype is there.......to do that very thing. To take the attention away, to create fear and the potential of fear at every turn. What is the color code for fear today - yellow, orange, red??

Americans are prime targets for all this, too because we've had it very good. It's the American way to just trust our leaders and not bother too much with "what they are doing". We have money to make, things to buy. We're not hungry enough to be really "aware". Maybe we should turn our eyes to Bolivia and take a real, real good look at what's going on there regarding their oil and gas and "who" wants it. WE do. And look at how the people are in an uprising about it! Talk about balls - these people are letting it be known - this is NOT okay and they won't take it.

Venezuela - same thing. Check that out as far as the last year..... Lots of things going on that we don't really follow and we should. I keep saying - rent movies like "Salvador" and "Missing" and take a good hard look at it. They are both older movies...

I don't know, Anam....it's sad to me. People who don't want to see any of this, won't. There is nothing I can really do about it. I try and educate people some but it's like it's almost too much if you haven't been paying attention all along. They really have to start from scratch. Most people don't have a clue how the government is put together or functions or even what our history is. Many would be hard pressed to tell you where our nation's capital is. It's easier to just parrot something and go rah-rah and then go right back to sleep.

I look back at our forefathers and how they really tried their best to sew into the constitution all the protections they could. They did a good job, they did.......but the seams are tearing and it's being maligned. We better start getting real, real nosey about things and making our voices heard. Like I keep saying......it's still a country FOR the People and BY the People.

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Oh ladeska you remind me of someone very special - are you really sure that your Sunshine could out -shine you?

I worked for a state Housing Association - an idea sprang up to form a co-operative group to manage most of their own concerns - we would relinquish 60% of our management income turning the remainder over to the co-operative - to partly manage themselves

I found an old dilapidated hotel in London - refurbished this into 23 self contained flats - we formed our first co-operative group - from these committed new residents - using this property to bring the whole idea into fruition .

I took the chair at their first meeting - the house committee was elected - promises were made to undertake their own management - we agreed to release all our income eventually depending on how they developed.

The deal here was of course that they could do far more for themselves with the income than we could have provide because of our burden of our in house overheads.

Over the first few years things deteriorated - committee never met or was poorly attended - it was proving a disaster- tenants just wanted to go watch television.

I invited the group committee to select the colour they would prefer to decorate all the common areas - something like a £5000 contract.
I waited - reminded - waited - nothing was forthcoming.

I then instructed the contractors to redecorate everything in matt black - I received protest after protest - but I never flinched - paid the builders off with the committees money.

I again took the chair and informed them that the game was up - I would recall every promise we had made to them. They became angry threatened all sorts of things. Then they took control.

I rebuilt this co-operative almost from scratch again - today they are still a very successful group enjoying the fruits of their own management. They eventually named me Matt Black.

I have spent perhaps too long trying to say - when the pressure builds up enough to hurt the populace then they will take control despite all the EO's.

Some of course will get shot. But the power of Gande won much from Britain . Yet we held all the cards.

Anam

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"The land of the free and the hope of the brave" - where is that place?

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Too true, Anam. People get stupid when in comfort. We didn't do what we did with this country because we were "comfortable" and living well. We did it out of complete desperation and a real thirst and hunger for "freedom". When people get complacent - beware.... And any predator or predator group knows all this and all they do is keep feeding us cookies and bon-bons while they usurp our power right out from under us. Nothing new about that one. And real patriots have never been admired "while they were Patriots". Always after the fact, usually after their death because "why"? Because they made people "uncomfortable" with the truth. People basically just can't get thier mind around how ugly and insidious things really are. It frightens them and they run back to their fairy tales and hide behind them. They sort of go into this angry chanting thing... Only way I know to describe it.

But GOOD for YOU!!! LOL! Your story made me laugh! Matt Black, huh? Indeed!! Chuckling over here. And if you really look back over our history, I'm not sure we ever fought one war in order to "protect" ourselves except for the founding of our country. The rest of the wars have been for interesting reasons but not necessarily so that we don't get invaded and taken over.

We might be well-served to look in the direction of "who lends us money" to find some answers as to why we go to war though.... The Federal Reserve Act started something very nasty and insidious in our country and it's just gotten uglier over time. When you owe the mafia type money and you can't pay it, guess what? You become their whore.

There is NO reason in the world that one person in this country should be jobless or hungry if they don't want to be that way. No excuse for that whatsoever. We are giving money away to some people every year that we need to take a very hard at look at "why"?

There is no reason why we shouldn't have health care, or social security that is SOLID, or education for our children that want to go to college either. I mean, schools are having to literally shut down here because they can't afford to stay open, can't afford to buy textbooks or materials. And like we're the richest nation on the planet so what's UP with THAT? I mean why can't we balance the budget? Good luck doing that now. Our children's children's children will still be paying for what's going on right now.

And by the time it really dawns on people "what's up", it will be too late. Not like this hasn't been thought through by someone. But as long as we halfway hear what we want to hear, no one questions anything. We just run along the habitrail like a bunch of mice.

I'm not amazed or surprised though. I had a good education with this facet of human nature growing up. People turned their head on the abuse that I was going through and what was going on, that was clearly seen by many - just because it made them uncomfortable to shake the foundations of how things had ran for so long. As long as it wasn't their child or them, so what?

I saw how all this works in the small pond of human nature. But as it is in the small pond, so it is in the larger one. As always, shoot the messenger and if you can - eliminate them.

I was shot down repeatedly for "asking questions" and not "going along with the flow". It was downright, um - unpleasant. And...I have to say it was tempting to just cave in and become dull minded like everyone else around me. Probably would have been dead by now or the equivalent of mentally dead.

Real freedom always comes at a very high price and our forefathers paid that. We're just a long way away from that now and it's time - to fight again and pay the price as well. Are we willing? Time will tell...

But when our leaders are beyond reproach, when they can plunder and lie and there be no real public outcry about it and when our leaders don't get grilled to the wall like Tony Blair did in England....or the powers that be in Bolivia and Venezuela, if the people don't make themselves "heard" - then why wouldn't leaders feel cocky and arrogant and just keep on giving us the medicine that makes us ssllleeeepppp....? Just like an abused wife with an abusive man, as long as he buys her pretty things and keeps her somewhat amused or satisfied - he can beat her all he wants to and she takes it.

A psychopath that you deal with in your own personal life - who can fool you, despises you for it....and basically thinks you deserve what you get when it comes at you.

When our media can be more concerned with Brittany and Madonna kissing and whether or not J-Lo and Ben stay together or not instead of what's really going on in this world - we've got a problem, guys.

I am so sick and tired of watching any debate (if you call it that) on T.V. where one person might be really pressing the issues and the other side just yells at them, interrupts them, changes the subject and never answers the question put to them - I call that bullying and it's just not okay with me.

I could give a rat's ass these days who's a democrat or a republican - ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!!!! Since at least if not more of my taxes each year is being gobbled up by the government so they can throw it here and there - I think I deserve AN ANSWER!!!

We STILL DON'T know what Bush did with the money we've already spent in Iraq, he refuses to give a real accounting of it and yet wants 87 billion more??? Um, what about the profits from Oil? Or is that going into the hands of "WHO"? I thought that was going into the pockets of the Iraqi people.... Kinda like I thought we gave them our solemn promise, too, that we would protect their museum over there that got pillaged while our American soldiers were basically told to stand down and let it happen. There were PRICELESS artifacts there that go back to the beginning of time....and yet - that all go hushed up. You don't hear much about that anymore. Well WHAT ABOUT THAT??? I mean this wasn't just a truckload of guys. This was a freaking CONVOY of many, many heavy duty trucks and transports.

We're not talking a little heist here. We're talking HUGE statues, that took some real planning and big ass machinery to come in and remove. This was no "little" heist. Where did all those things go? And like the way history has gone in the past...you destroy certain things, lock them away from view or whatever and you can basically "rewrite" history to slant and say anything you want it to say. Who's to know the difference if you really make it your aim to do this?

Like I've said before, if one has eyes to see and ears to hear....just go watch the movie "Animal Farm" or get the book......it's ALL there. The guy knew what he was doing when he wrote this. I'm sure he knew if he really said what was what - he'd have been murdered. He tried to use symbolism and some humor. Very cleverly done.

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How strange - but for the first time in my life I wished my soul had hands to stretch out to touch yours.

Please join me on my soap box at Hyde Park corner - are we talking revolution here ?

Are you calling for the people beyond the barricade to sing ' Red the colour of angry men -- Red the colour of despaaaaair' !

I hear your clarion call and I am ready to march - having defeated the tyrant - then what?

What are your forward plans - lead us - lead us to the top the barricade -but what will stop us falling over the edge again?

Anam

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Ladeska given much thought to the concerns raised here - I have written down what comes into my head - but I am aware of my inadequacies - intellect - education to truly touch upon the subject.

AMERICA! What do Europeans think about you.

Some of my long life's observations.

Wartime brought me in touch with you and your sons - I was a child when I met these foreign beings - could be- as far as I was concerned from another planet!

I liked you - you were friendly loving open people - willing to share what you had with us - taught us to be easy with ourselves - brought romance with you from foreign parts unknown to us kids.

Roy Rogers - Gene Autry - Dale Winters - song of the open plains - colour of your country which we could only observe in your black and white films.

Oh yes you Americans took us beyond ourselves. Tits in plenty with Jane Russell - you were the most interesting bunch that came to us - out of the war "got any gum chum" - have you no understanding at what you gave to us and the world! - tears run down as I pen this note.

I can give you one example - among many - I was in France for the celebration of D-DAY - June the 6th 1944 - The square on the beach head of the invasion in this little French town had been cleared - now filled with World War Two American vehicles - jeeps - Duce and a half trucks which kept the allied armies supplied - guys walking about in American army uniforms - women with thick Lyle stockings and forage caps with forties hair stile. Oh good I thought - I will go down and talk to these Americans. To my utter astonishment they were all French! - living the life off the honey moon they once had with your country.

The piped Scottish Some band - were all French! Your sons died for our world freedom - lift your hearts in salute to them . I stood among the young dead - 11000 on Omaha beach - where they stormed for the cause - never doubt our gratitude for their efforts . Be proud of what you have given beyond your boundaries.

Europeans now consider that Americans - believe the world is America and to some extent understandable so - you have a big land mass - I have come to believe this also - for God sake use you education beyond - see how you have effected the rest of the us! - yes some bad policies - maybe due to the fact of your isolated view point?

Your country and people are great - but the world has come to recognise your strength and consider you as powerful unaware children - a frightening concept for the rest of us.

But be sure we will always support you with our dead.

Anam - or someone moving these fingers.

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Believe me, Anam....I know, as much as I can "know" what those men and women "gave" to you...to the world. Those are "the people" of America. Quite different from what - runs America these days. The American people have a fiber in them that is very awesome and the courage, zeal and patriotism with which they fight - has never been in question to me. Never. And isn't now with our troops in Iraq.

We have sooo much to be thankful for, so many lives have been lost over time here, many were needless, but war always has that factor with it unfortunately. But we came from you guys.... We were your sons and daughters giving back to you - when we could and glad to do so.

Whatever we need to do now, we just need to do - to protect and honor those dead....to live on in their spirit and with a clear head of what's what and - what's not.

Yes, we are a lively bunch, aren't we? I spent many years working alongside Vietnam vets who saw the worst of it. And even though I don't agree with that war either - what those guys gave and what they went through, just still blows my mind. I will never have the priviledge again to work with guys of this caliber. They were "go-to" kind of men and they were and are - "brothers" until they die.

This.........whatever it is that lies at the core of men like this - is really what the heart of America is. There is an eternal flame in my own heart and spirit that is always burning for the soldier that gave it his all. We are a crazy lot sometimes, but the real true blue American has a tremendous amount of "grit" and alot of "heart" as well. The "little people" of this nation, the ones you don't always hear from or see - are the ones that really make this nation great. Good people, salt of the very earth and would give you the shirt right off their backs. Thank you for writing this, Anam. I hold all of them who gave so much in high esteem also. And I hold the ones who are giving now, even though I don't agree with the "why" of them being there - the people that are in those uniforms - I very much care about and revere. Very much so....

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Ladeska

Sorry for poking about in here again but you seemed not to address my questions about the revolution - barricade - singing the songs----'Red the colour of angry men.'

Would you care to put your thoughts down here? Or fear you may have a bug in the lampshade.
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Anam.

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Nope, no bug in my lampshade. (smile) Am I trying to incite riot, is that what you're asking me? Sitting here laughing about that one. Oh yea, that's what I'm doing alright. Yep, caught me. Just stirring up trouble, is my middle name. LOL! Actually, I'm trying to get people to "think". I know, I know - it's a crime. I guess I should go sit down in my corner now and shut up. Saying Hail Marys as we speak....oops, ran out of beads...

Okay, okay, enough said. Sorry for disturbing people here. I'll go back to the Coffeehouse and put on my little apron and become my blonde bubblehead self. That better?

October 19, 2003
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Nobody wants you to do that Ladeska (or at least I don't). 🙂 You enlighten all of us. Why would you say that you are disturbing people here? It is good to make all of us do some thinking and not be so apathetic. Don't ever lose that fire inside of yourself. You never know who you might spark to make a difference.

October 19, 2003
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I really am going to shut up about all this stuff anyways. It doesn't do any good, not these days anyways. We're too far down the road. Just going to think happy thoughts and sing songs, maybe that will work afterall! See you in the Coffeehouse! Cheers! Going to go find that wine bottle, I know I hid it somewhere....

October 19, 2003
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Ladeska

No I am not asking about if you are stirring up trouble as TS said we are all enlightened about what you have to say here.

What I am actually asking is - how do the American people alter this direction - vote in another party?

I throw hand grenades onto the floor of the senate/house - my spoken bang gets heard - then after I walk out of the chamber someone says - liked what you said in there - what shall we do about it then.? Have you an opinion on this question - (smile) LOL. Anam at 4am

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Hey Anam... I really don't know what we can do to be honest with you. I mean I'd advise people to rattle the hinges off the doors concerning our Public Servants. I mean..that is what they are, right? But you practically have to go up to Capitol Hill to get an audience and even then, it's where the money is - that matters.

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Ok - thanks
I thougt the problem is like WD"s Fable of the week!

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Lots of interesting things in that fable, eh?

Oh, just saw this - isn't it *special*?

"...why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"

-- Barbara Bush on ABC/Good Morning America, March 18, 2003

Sometimes people just can't help hanging themselves at some point, the arrogance just slips right on out for all to see.

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