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Taj....
January 7, 2007
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I don't think it is fair to invade the Afghan sisters thread Taj!

I really have been praying and meditating a lot about this subject and even asked some Christian folks about the right thing to do, here is what God has revealed to me:

* I drop what I have already said about Lolli describing her as something negative. It is only God who judges people, not us human beings!

I not only love Lolli and have forgiven her from whatever happened between us. But I find her a Smart and Bright lady. I really hope and pray that she will read this post the 1st thing in this morning and wish that she would have a great day!!!

I really have been unable to sleep well in the last few days till the spirit of God convicted me that I have done something wrong. Praise the Lord!!!!

***Lolli, honey, please forgive me for speaking ill of you!!! I love you (((Lolli))), you are a precious person!!!

Taj~If you want to post back, please leave space between paragraphs as it makes it easier to read them.

Have a great Sunday All & Blessings,

Ras~

January 7, 2007
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Ras as you know some things in life are not fair. Life is not fair.

I will write how I want too. The words are the same no matter if I put paragraphs in them or not. Some people do not care and many other write this way as well only I do not see you interjecting to them to separate thoughts.

I told you in my other thead that you are too difficult of a person to deal with.

And I can interject into any thread I choose because the site is a public forum and I believe sisterhood was not an inclusive party. And I doubt sincerely too many peole would disagree unless you can get everyone to agree that I am not allowed to post. WHich is it anyway if I want to post back I need to paragraph and then you tell me that I invaded it???? And I don't see you mentioning that to anyone else that post in long paragraphs. Really now Ras, you just want to show your stuff.

Im really quite done unless I hear you ragging on someone that I care about then I will defend as you defend your friends. WOrks both ways Ras.

I see you sweet talk your way out of situations and then in next breath change like the wind. It is push and pull. You push people away and then pull them back in. And it is not working so well with me right now.

Im not about to make peace after all I have read recently. Sometimes you try peace and it does not work.

January 7, 2007
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January 7, 2007
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Maybe it was best not to leave a title for this one. Kroika thank you for the reminder though. It is thoughtful.

And just for you to know, Ras I have made a conscience effort to add spaces inbetween paragraphs on other threads due to your last reminder to me which by the way have not much to do with the issue at hand, and if you go into other threads you will see that I have been trying to be better but in that last paragraph I kept writing. I could have spaced yes but I did not. I am not 100 percent at your level. But I try.

Also you have so many threads going on where I could have interject that same paragraph I wrote, does it matter so much where? Maybe it is not the best place but still I read your post and addressed it there and I did not intend to INVADE the thread, just speaking up.

And as for the sisterhood, no I am not a member of it if that is what you need to do to be on it but I do read it and I read it everyday. I read dating thread, no contact thread, whatever I feel might help me.

This is far as I can carry this. As sometimes you just cannot do a thing. And hands are up and life goes on.

January 7, 2007
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Taj,

As far as I can tell....Ras was the one that "invaded" the sisters thread by bringing this crap into it....not you. Yourself, SD, and Plz. were only responding to comments first made by her.

Just thought you should know that others know that.

Lolli

January 7, 2007
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Yet, another clear case of PROJECTION!

January 7, 2007
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Is your comment lollipop3, supportive, gentle, helpful? Just recently the SC posted that we need to read and acknowledge this!

January 7, 2007
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I just found the thread and am posting the part I am referring to.

My Feedback: In order for us to be able to initiate real change and self discovery, and eventually grow, we each need to understand the beginnings of our own problems. Only WE know our OWN problems... this site is about reaching our inner personal selves, not about us reaching others. We each need to reach ourselves, it's not our job to inflict our judgments or perceptions onto others. Please, let's help others to reach into themselves, on their own, and on their own terms. People have their own answers. People usually are able to unlock their own problems when given GENTLE guidance and GENTLE questions. And sometimes, some GENTLE correction. And of course, a little support & credit for willingness to talk about what's bothering us. Treat other people's "problems/issues" with even GREATER CARE than you would give to your own. Be respectful & give breathing room.

Lately on the threads, I've been hearing a good deal of harsh criticism, finger pointing, and judging. And just general head-butting (repeated points of view that are differing). None of these are helpful. None.

January 7, 2007
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Hi MJ,

I believe my comment was supportive of Taj in letting her know that, although she is being blamed, she was not at fault for what has transpired. At least in my opinion.

Beyond that, I agree and thank you for your input.

Lolli

January 7, 2007
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Thanks for responding lollipop3. What bothered me most about all of the judgements and opinions was that people were getting hurt. This site is about support and gentle guidance. Asking questions so that others can find their own answers. Best to All

January 7, 2007
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Hi MJ,

I understand where you are coming from and believe me, I am sorry that I may have contributed to any uncomfortableness that other posters may have felt.

The only say I can say is that I believe that I tried my best to do exactly what you have described above...to no avail. And yes, ultimately I lost my patience and my will to come to any understandings.

However, like other instances in the past, surely this will blow over, and hopefully we all will have learned something from it.

Take care,
Lolli

January 7, 2007
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Oooops typo...

The only THING I can say......

January 7, 2007
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Hey I read the sisterhood and see Scared in Mich is leaving. Im sorry as I feel bad that I have a part in the departure. I do hope she will be patient and come back. These things take time to get on track like any relationships. It is too much right now so I can understand. I have left a few times myself only to come back cuz I need the place. And someone told me that it leaves people feeling used when that happens and I did not know I had done that when I suddenly left. And now I know. So if you are reading Scared then I apologize to you personally. Im not in the sisterhood or cliques on here and I do not feel comfortable again to go there so if it was me then feel free to jump back on as I promise not to invade the thread. And I appreciate your guidance MJ, I have listened and I will take it to heart.

I have to say I did ask a lot of questions though, and I did not receive answers. But I let it all go now. The day will come this will all behind and forgotten.

Take care all, and sisterhood should not die. Im all for sisterhood even if Im not in it.

January 7, 2007
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taj, I truly hope you read my post on the other side...this isn't about you. This is about the last six weeks of my life that I need to heal to be productive in helping others here, and helping myself. And I do NOT believe that it can be done here. I love ya and I care about you. Please don't take the responsibility for my actions...I am doing what I believe in my heart is the right thing to do FOR ME...I need to take this time, so this last "fight" doesn't happen twice. I need to heal from the last 6 weeks. I think that it is only fair to honestly me and Lolli. Support the ones that are here. Think of me and say a prayer or something. I WILL get through this. This is a phase. Will I be back? Time will tell. I would like to say yes...but I have a lot of healing to do. Should the sisterhood prevail Taj, let them know that you are reading, let them know you care. We heard an awful lot of who wasn't for us...let them know that your support exists...they deserve that. It was NEVER intended to be a clique...I love them all, as I am a caring and loving person. It breaks my heart to go...but I have to for a while...MY HOPE is that people see this for what it is...a time for my healing...not a way to feel used. You are a good person...don't lose sight of that...my ONLY suggestion to you my friend is LET THIS LAST ONE GO. It isn't worth the negative energy that SO many of us put into it. Focus on the positive...

I am truly done posting...but, I felt like I needed to clarify that it is NOT you why I am leaving...it is ONLY for me... I just hope that others heal while I am away...

Love to you my friend...no hard feelings here to you or ANYONE...

Mich

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