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Student is tasered for asking Kerry bout secret society
September 19, 2007
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Thanks Bevdee,but I felt attacked here and even though it is my thread here, I do not feel comfortable on it anymore, for many reasons. I rather just not go there, cause I been in spin cycles before and now I know its better to run than get trapped..so if I don't post, its not that I don't want to chat or talk bout here, but I been told that I do not belong here, on my own post, and the fangs are vicous and I rather just not engage....I have better things to do in life, but thank you for your posts and others as well, I knew it would happen, always does..am kinda of used to it actually.

September 19, 2007
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Survivor

IMO - Sometimes when posts cause nerves to get pushed there is the reaction of denial or anger, and that causes a kind of lashing out. It happens here alot.

No one has the authority on this site to tell you you aren't ready or don't belong. (Except the Site Coordinator, and I doubt she will.) I have observed that this is a technique that has been used when someone feels threatened. Have you ever had that happen in your real, physical life and run from it? If so, do you think that is why this might be your inclination to do so now?

There may be those that try though, so maybe you could choose to see it as a lesson in Libs?

I know you aren't going away, but if you ever want to return to this thread and just read it, I would suggest trying to observe what happened and not feel what happened.

Or if you really want to talk about something, don't let the opinion of one poster hinder you. It was one person.

Later Gorgeous!!

September 19, 2007
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(((Bevdee))) thank you..yes I guess its a pattern for me, growing up, I either lash out or I recoil and run away. I just can't go there with someone who is not respectful to me, I just rather not...I don't have the energy and yes I agree that is prolly what had happened here, Prolly so.

From how the conservation went here and seeeing this person thinks that slavery was ok in the past cause it was the way life was and that is just how it goes, tells me ALOT..way too much. I am sure that same person will think that this guy deserves jail time, for speaking out against a corrupt system as we have here.

I really shouldn't be that all surprised and I am not...But your right, I have a right to be here too and to express my views and just cause I rather not ENGAGE here, does not make me a bad person..

Thank you from my heart Bevdee.

September 19, 2007
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YOU do not even need sound to see that it was WRONG...they took him away cause he spoke the TRUTH...that is the cold hard facts here, nothing more.

September 19, 2007
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oh i might be agreeing with bevdee here survivor...never run from a fight. If you're gonna get hit, it's better to take it in the front than in the back-----and it looks better.

i watched the episode evolve. please stand firm in your beliefs you are a whole in your self...not to be judged not to be dismembered...your thoughts and memories are yours...no one can change you...but sometimes words and ideas are very different in here and we get hurt. survivor...it is here waiting for your return....

we are all striving to be ourselves and to be understood...that is our common ground....

like mom said..."letting the cat out of the bag is a whole lot easier than puttin it back in"

....our pain makes us so vunerable when we acknowledge it. help me bevdee i'm stuck for words to help survivor know she is okay here.

September 19, 2007
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Survivor- you say "I just can't go there with someone who is not respectful to me, I just rather not" This shows great wisdom. For me, the key is recognising why certain words, phrases or styles of communication cause me to react in a certain way. For me, it goes back to my family and I have been able to gain alot of insight into myself.

If you need a break? Take it, you are under no obligation to post anywhere. Relax on a porch swing and think things over for a while, if you need to.

(((Survivor)))

September 19, 2007
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I am just not very good at confrontation, never have been...I am used to giving people power over me, but lately I have changed that, well with my abusers, but when it comes to others, I am weak, cause I am always at home and do not work outside the home, so I have little experience in this,but I do agree, I need to stand up here...its my thread, maybe I should defend it here...maybe.

September 19, 2007
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Ok...I will find that swing and just sit and maybe have some herbal tea here...you guys are comforting, thank you.

I am not good at words, I am good at stating my feelings lately but not much else, so yes, time away would be good.

September 19, 2007
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Hi free!

It is good to be posting with you again..how have you been? Good I hope.

I don't mean to offend you with my masonic rantings/information. I have just been doing osme research. Many ex- Masons have come forward and told what the hierarchy masons do. When you enter, you are never told about the heirarchy until you get there. I have a relative that has passed on, that was a 33rd degree mason. I remember those little red hats they wear, and remember knowing as a child that they were people who helped other people...but then again they were the entry level masons. I have done much research simply by googling Masonic influence, or Masons, as well. There is so much information. Even Joseph Smith of the Mormons was a Mason. I am not a Mason or a Mormon, to clarify.

Washington DC and many cities are built with Masonic symbols everywhere. If you look at an aeral view of DC, it also forms a pentagram with only one point missing. There are Masonic symbols EVERYWHERE...the 'all-seeing eye', and of course if you are a Mason, you are not allowed to share this information about alot or you may be killed or banned, and there is much that you don't tell, because if one knew when you joined that it was satanic at the top...one wouldn't join....there are 'secrets' kept only between the Masons. It seems from my readings that Survivor has studied this as well, hence her remark above about Masonry.

Again, no offense, and no personal attacks meant here.

hugs to you,
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Again there is alot of information

September 19, 2007
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I think what bothered me most about this video, is that Kerry acted as if this young man did not even exist and kept talking as if he was not there.

Those were 'hot' subjects, that if any of the politicians admitted to, it would turn the world upside down.

September 19, 2007
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Hey Miss OMW

Thanks for pointing me in the direction of Illuminati. Although, I am finding it a little confusing, trying to wade through the myriad of info about it. It has (possibly) given me a better understanding of the history of the Sub Rosa societies. I was wondering what your take was on it.

September 19, 2007
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My abuse was at their hands, many in my church and family were in these groups...I recently found this out but always studied them for over 20 years...I was always pooed by my family on my research (except my brother, he filled me in) .now I know why...so if it strikes a nerve well it is any surpise?

September 19, 2007
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survivor good to see you back.

hope my words were a comfort not a problem...great thread. we need to discuss at length when our liberties are at stake.

see you on the porch.

September 19, 2007
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The Christian church is heavily infilterated with service organizations...there is a reason for this and yes it stinks to high heaven. That is why I do not like church, god or anything that has its hand in my abuse..and you think I am alone? No...I met quite a few people who also had these experiences, but yea, some people would write us off as nutcases, or laugh at us or even think we are overeacting...well I been there and done that and I am not doing it anymore, if there is a hell...may they rot there forever.

September 19, 2007
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Where is this porch...i need to find it, I can't.

September 19, 2007
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It's on Libs- just chattin...

September 19, 2007
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Hey there bev :o)

If you want a pretty standard, but interesting overview of where the masons originated, look at the history of the Knights Templar. I find it really fascinating, mainly because of the historical content. Wikipedia has a good overview.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.....ts_Templar

Wikipedia also gives a general overview of freemasonry without all the drama.

From what I've read (and I may fuzz up some of the details) is that masons were those who believed in, and wanted to explore free thought in a time when the Christian church ruled over such things. Scientists, astronomers, engineers, philosophers - all of those with a vision other than that of the church, met secretly to discuss their ideas. Over time, freemasonry grew, and many prominant figures became masons. George Washington was a mason. During the French Revolution, America was having a hard time with the war, so Ben Franklin (also a Mason) enlisted the help of more fellow masons in Europe, to help America win the war. Once we won, everyone praised the freemasons, and there weren't too many people that didn't want to be a member. Apparently, an incident where a group of masons got together and killed a man, tainted the mason reputation, and public opinion and support took a turn. It was Albert Pike who actually took freemasonry in a crazy direction when he took it upon himself to rewrite the entire book on Scottish masonic order. That may be where all of the hockus pockus masonic jive comes from. Anyway, there are so many theories on freemasonry, and so many different offshoots of the order, that it's hard to pinpoint EXACTLY what it's all about in any "general" terms. I just know that it's no coincidence that many of our world leaders, politicians, and major decision makers, are members to one, if not several of these "secret societies." I really believe that there is a larger, more powerful, governing force making the decisions for our country... and they aren't the people you vote into office or see on tv.

Anyhoo, banana fanna fo bev, have fun searching and reading about this stuff. I, for one, love it.

September 19, 2007
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I mean, "hocus pocus."

hockus pockus definition - a pig shank (slang: hamhock) with a case of bad acne scars.

September 19, 2007
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I have heard several theories on this as well as the one above. I am leaning towards the idea that the christian religion was created, with a purpose in mind...and that all the world wars were planned. And carried out and that America was a plan by early masons, an experiment of sorts...and sadly, for what I hear, my research says, its so...I wonder if this was done before, I wonder if other planets were also taken over and ruined by predators who wanted to rule over the world...many say that venus was like earth but it blew up..I often wonder if we will be the next venus???

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I have been to DC on many occassions and yes it is laid out with a grand scheme...very obvious, even our money has quote with the all seeing eye on it, that says in latin, out of chaos there is order...ummm it doesn't take a extremely intelligent person here to see this, and then to read up on history, religion and politics...the money trail is also something i am told to follow, priests and kings and people of power, all somehow connected to a common goal.

Alexandria outside of Washington is fascinating to me. There on the end of king street lies the masonic building...they have alot in there to check out and its free...some floors are forbidden, your tour guide will even tell you that the elevator will not stop on some floors... they also have info on the rainbow girls, the organization for young girls, I was one. Also info on other organizations...its a wealth of information.

I have studied this my entire life, I have lived it, I know it well. Sadly, I can only ask that people do their own homework and research and provide what I can here, for many reasons that i rather not go into here, but its there, if you are sincere and truly want to know what is there, your find it. Ladeska also can give alot of info on this too, she is also very knowledgeable in this but she may not want to talk bout it too, I don't know...maybe.

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(((Survivor)))

I know how painful it is when secrecy is the requirement for acceptance in a family. When keeping my mouth shut about what I saw and knew was the only way not to be ostracised or ridiculed. It's so painful when it is your own family that sends you this message.

Rainbow Girls? So, the indoctrination started pretty young?

Positive thoughts going out to you~~

September 19, 2007
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way way before this...my brother informed me why I felt scared in our church growing up...I had suspisions but had no idea it was like this.

There was a woman in our choir who used to stare at me and my sister, we were always so grossed out over it, he then said, there is a reaons for that and you may not want to hear it...a week later he tried to kill himself.

I do not even think he told me everything...I have no memories of the drinking parties after church, just one really but its really faint for me.

He, remembered alot..He told me what he could, but mainly cried and lost it for the most part...he then went on to talk bout relatives, being forced to kill animals, being paid for it even, spankings, etc...he prolly said too much...

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Thank you Bevdee for your thoughts, they are most appreciated:)

I do not remember alot from my past, its very voided...but I do have some info, some memories and thankfully my brother confirming much of it...

I am sorry for your expereinces too Bevdee...silence kills us.

September 19, 2007
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If anything, I hope that someone reads this entire thread and it sparkes them to do their own personal search for the truth, or it may even verify something for them or help them not feel as if they are crazy or something...I am hoping out of this gut wretching experience here, that someone it helped someone out there, or at least sparked an interest in the wanting to learn bout the truth and the way it is really is in our great nation...'

I can always hope for that. But also in verifying this, it also causes me great anxisty bout nothing being out there, no heaven..no place to reunite with my loved ones...this is very painful for me, It would be so much easier to believe as i did in many ways cause at least there was a chance to go to heaven and see the people i love...

I now must face that we are just here for awhile and then we are dead and that is it, does anyone know how hard, how painful it is to come to this conclusion????

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Ladeska..where are you?

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