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Student is tasered for asking Kerry bout secret society
September 18, 2007
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Yes, everyone is scared and making excuses to justify what they witnessed. The speaker trying to tell everyone to move away from the police. I noticed one old lady just shrugging at someone as she turned away from it.

If only the government would be as proactive in protecting us from domestic abuse and prosecuting child rapists as they are in protecting their secrets!!

This is sickening.

September 18, 2007
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I know enough cops, personally, to know that they taser people for resisting even LESS than that student. They should have let Kerry answer his question, politely told him that his time was up, then let him be on his way. That situation, which obviously escalated out of control, could have been avoided.

All I know for sure, is that all women should own one of those tasers. :o)

September 18, 2007
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I agree BEVDEE...110 percent! There is so much more here to tbis here too, there is a reason why many people protect these kind of people, cause these very people are the church leaders and "untouchables" they protect the ones who abuse them...familiar? They are the ones who have power, authority and a high place in our society, and so many just drape a flag over them and call them righteous and holy or whatever here, birds of a feather do very well flock together!!!!

September 18, 2007
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I known many myself Shaney...most in my little town were bought off by the mob, covered for them and did their dirty work..and its well documented history too, not just my own interuption here...and its not just my little town or yours or a few out there, its everywhere...and also in the mix you do have good ones who are there and who care, yes there are still some good people out there...but they are not a majority here...remember that people turn the cheeck in life, they do it with their own families, they do it to their own kids, they just go off to lala land somewherer and try to forget bout it...cause really there is nothing they can do here, and if they did, they would be next.

September 18, 2007
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It just ceases to amaze me how people would just rather not care here and write him off a nutcase, then again, I had that experience before with the abusers in my life, its just soo much easier to write people off as liars or fruitcakes, cause then we don't have to face the reality of abuse and what is going on...we been sooo conditioned to just stick our heads in the sand and sing happy patriotic songs, cause that is what good well behaved sheep do.

September 18, 2007
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Oh, I know. The main reason that my h and I started to read about conspiracy theories, was because he had a personal incident a while back. He was working for the studios and was shooting a documentary on freemasonry. I guess the writer/director was really beginning to uncover some really interesting information, and one day, the guy just disappeared. The documentary was never finished, and my h never saw the guy again. Very interesting, I thought. It's good to read as much as you can, and base your opinions about what's going on in this world with much objectivity. It's not a good idea to believe everything you read, but then again, don't walk around this planet believing everything that you're leaders are telling you. Do your research.

September 18, 2007
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Masons and religion of choice??? What I could say here but won't, I will let someone else do that maybe...but you can not be be a mason if you do not believe in GOD, you must believe in GOD, any god will do, reasons for that...and all religions are accepted and allowed, but again, reasons for that, that I wish not go into here.

I prolly said too much here, prolly not a good idea either, so I will now leave this thread, I am sure the hawks are circling now anyhow for the kill here, but its good to see this out and talked bout, cause it needs to be discussed.

Take care all, this is the last post from me here, too triggering and mixed in with my abuse issues and rather dangerous for me here.

September 18, 2007
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good talkin' to you all... :o)

September 18, 2007
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(((Shaney-bo-baney)))

September 18, 2007
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Shaney

Did the footage disappear too? I was asking because I was recently reading about Albert Pike, a name I have run across in my genealogy and tribe studies, because he was a lawyer that contracted with Native Americans. There is a highway named after him not far from me that runs thru OK.

Pike was a slave owner, and later a top ranking member of the Klan as well as the Masonic order. In one account, he died in the house of the Scottish Rite Temple, Washington, D.C. There are many conflicting accounts of his life and his affiliations.

Most records of his involvement with the KKK is - well, it has disappeared.

This really intrigues me.

September 18, 2007
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Survivor,
Thanks for psoting this, I had not heard of it yet. Kerry is actually GW's cousin. If you look up the skull and bones on the internet, you will see how many of our prez's have been involved, and yes it originates at Yale. The other thing is the Masonic membership. GW Sr is a 33'rd degree mason, so is Bill Clinton, and Hillary is a member of the female group of skull and bones. The Masons are great people, until they get up into the ranks, then 33'rd is considered satanic. All of Washington DC is built with MAsonic symbols. You can also watch, skull and bones with ALex Jones on You-Tube. In fact in you google You-Tube with any subject after it at all, it will come up with a video. It is all pretty freaky when you learn all about it.

September 18, 2007
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Look into Skull and Bones, the Illuminati, etc.

September 18, 2007
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hi survivor

I stated "there has to be more" kuz it didn't make sense to me- I'm just appalled.

Thank you for granting me permission to believe as I so choose about these organizations.

"I am sure you would call me a conspiracy nut behind my back or even to my face, thats ok, that your right here, just as it is mine to see what is going on here and call it for it is...planned corruption. "

Actually survivor, I wouldn't have said that at all. I'm sorry you feel that way.
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September 18, 2007
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Hi OMW

Degrees in masonry are steps in learning about freethinking.

33rd is not satanic. You can go to the shriners.

There is nothing satanic about the masons, never was.

If you have questions about masons, I'd be happy to answer.

This kind of frantic behavior is partially why they are a "secret" organization. The actual "secrets" are things one cannot possibly know unless the concept of free thinking is studied intently, like gnositicism and mysticism. Gnostics and mystics just kind of do it on their own.

Bevdee, when the south had slaves it was not a bad thing. It was not considered evil or wrong. The slaves were not considered as equals. We had alot to learn. It's not logical to imply a person is "bad" because he owned slaves during a time when owning slaves was socially and legally acceptable.

There are president's who were masons and owned slaves, and there were presidents who were masons that did not own slaves.

Survivor- "the hawks are circling?"

What the heck are you talking about?

Didn't you start this thread, and wasn't it started for the sake of discussion?

Maybe not?. Maybe it was started for you to vent. That's what support side is for, over here I think it's fair for posters to assume that this thread was started for the sake of intelligent discussion and that all were welcome to join.

Including myself.

The whole "I'm gonna run away kuz it's scary here" thing after STARTING thread? This is gonna be my last post kuz I'm freaking out blah blah blah....

Gimme a break.

Maybe you're just not ready for liberation brew Survivor.

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September 18, 2007
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OMW

You said 33rd degree is considered satanic.

Who considers 33rd degree masonry satanic?

Like I said, they are the Shriners.

Where did you get this information?

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September 18, 2007
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free?

Slavery? Not the point. I think you missed the point.

September 18, 2007
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I must have missed the point bevdee.

On more than one occasion your posts have mentioned a President, KKK, slavery, and masons in the same sentence and what appeared to me to be a context implying "bad" and "evil."

I feel compelled to interject that masons are not evil, satanic, bad. I find this occurs due to ignorance mainly- people don't understand what masons are about, they just hear religious propaganda and take it to be truth.

So maybe I missed the point. What was it if not the implication that masonic organizations are bad and evil.

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September 18, 2007
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I've watched the vid a couple of times. The kid was definitely kind of shrill, but I didn't see that he did anything to justify the first officer ever laying hands on him. When you grab someone or push them and your not defending yourself it's called assault and battery.
HEre's how I read the video.

1) A journalist asks the Senator some questions, which coincidentally touch on some massively illegal behavior committed by the governor of Florida, and probably by the Florida police in 2004.

2) A police officer then assaults the journalist.

3) A second police officer, observing the illegal and violent behavior, fails to protect the victim, and fails to arrest the first police officer, but instead joins in escalating the violence against the journalist.

4) A third police officer fails to arrest the first two police officers but instead joins in escalating the violence against the journalist.

5) And so on.

I think every officer involved in the incident should not only be fired but spend time in jail, and that the police department ought to be massively sued.

September 18, 2007
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"What was it if not the implication that masonic organizations are bad and evil." This was your assumption, not my implication. I don't believe that they are satanic, because I don't believe in god or satan. And I sure don't buy into religious propoganda. It's not even logical to assume that, knowing my views.

The point is that there are alot of secrets and cover-ups within these fraternal organisations, like Shaney brought up. If you look at the enigma of Albert Pike you might see something. He's an interesting guy. Confederate commander, Klucker, lawyer, poet and his predictions. He predicted 3 world wars.

I don't see any point in defending the institution of slavery.

September 18, 2007
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sigh.

jeepers bevdee -

any time I try to talk to you....

Thanks for stating your point. I definitely missed the point about the context in which you've mentioned the masons.

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September 18, 2007
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It's ok.

September 19, 2007
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wd

I watched the vid on utoob but I don't have audio right now. What did the kid say that these cops went so bonkers over?

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September 19, 2007
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appalled beyond belief. 4 or 5 officers with a zealous authority crisis take down one inquiring student asking the wrong questions at the right time.

sucks for days and makes me embarrassed to admit that this is our freedom of speech society.

where did the training camp for this tazer then talk background come from? it makes us look stupid to strike before the alarm.

next thing you know, that student will be a hushed no more and will be a millionaire from his upcoming lawsuit. crap all crap. God save us from ourselves and the political agenda's we support with or without our consent.

September 19, 2007
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This morning, the news is that this student, Andrew Meyer, is known for taping his practical jokes. I wonder if the police were in on it too? Surely not- the guy was arrested.

If it was a "practical joke", the police came off real bad. IMO. I agree with WD- they should be arrested. I'm willing to take it one or two steps further and see every cop (that assisted in slamming him to the ground), slammed to the ground. And the cop with the taser given the same treatment. Tase him, too.

Oh in a perfectly just world.

September 19, 2007
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Survivor

Thanks for starting this thread. I'm sorry for the tasered boy, of course, but what has really intrigued me again is the question he brought up about these secret societies. This way of thinking is familiar to me because of my mother's daddy, and I believe it is helping me to understand them and myself better.

You know, sometimes threads and posts make me feel - oh- reactive. Sometimes I back off and sometimes I just get right with it and react with the best of them. But Survivor, you're the only one that knows what is best for you right now. Guard yourself if you need to and trust your instincts. It's ok to state your feelings here on Libs, everyone has at one time or another - and especially since those subjects that are so painful to you aren't permitted on support.

(((SurvivorOfAbuse)))

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