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SHould I develop my High--tech Capital Punishment Device?
November 18, 2007
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November 18, 2007
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no.

November 18, 2007
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Somehow I knew WD started this thread 🙂

November 19, 2007
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Aww crap.

Why do so many of inventions have primarily evil applications?

November 19, 2007
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Yes, has classical WD overtones. I too knew before opening. 🙂

Tell us, sir, what would this high--tech capital punishment device consist of? How would it work? Would it put the recipient thru the hell he/she put the victim thru? Would it take care of an eye for an eye or does God not say vengence is mine. But then is this high--tech capital punishment device taking God's position? or is it merely a consequence that fits the crime?

Do tell.....

November 19, 2007
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Well ladies, don't ya just know that when WD finally gets our attention he's gonna leave us sittin here on the edge of our seats while he's off galavantin around somewhere. Maybe he hopped a plane to join the little red loud dog on vacation. Maybe we should put our heads together and make our own high--tech capital punishment device before he returns. Well, on second hand maybe we shouldn't, they may actually find out we are as eccentric as WD is in our thinking. Shhh, I'll not tell anyone if ya'll won't.

WD, WHERE R YOU-OOO?

November 20, 2007
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Hi Mama,

I described the gadget in the "opinions...death penalty" thread.

The purpose was to create a more humane method of execution that does not require a medical professional to operate.

It a non-invasive method that renders a person dead in less than half a second, leaves no punctures, requires no drugs...

November 22, 2007
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riiiiiiiiiiight

does it involve a black cat on a person chest sucking out their last breath while they are hypnotized?

WOW you can patent and market it for millions then get someone to perform the "execution that does not require a medical professional to operate." for minimum wage or volunteer! YIPEE! More good paying jobs.

Why the heck would you post that here? I'm sure with your scientific credentials there are publications and COLLEAGUES to bounce this (idea) around with?
Looks like bated BS to me.

November 22, 2007
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Hi msguided,

I posted here because it is a branch from the capital punishment thread.

One of the issues with current methods of execution is that even lethal injection is being legally challenged as cruel and unusual, and it requires a medical professional--problem is, medical professionals are bound by medical ethics to not assist in executions. That's what got me thinking.

Of course I have kicked this around at work some. I am not asking for technical or scientific advice here

This has more to do with the moral, spiritual and social implications to the question: "What it were possible instantly and painlessly turn a human being off just by flipping a switch?"

Now it is possible, technically, so the question is pertinent.

People here are just as qualified as people at my work to discuss moral, spiritual and social issues.

And it kind of creeps me out that I thought of it.

As far as "marketing it for millions," like I said, I don't think there is much of a market for it.

Regarding "bated BS" comment: when I post BS here, it is always for humor value and tends to be in a broad-brush, ridiculous style that is easy to identify--like my post about the enormous bumblebees from outer space.

I have been posting here since early 2002 and folks who know me know that I am a sincere person--this forum is definitely not a place for trolling.

The first developmental task of a human being is to develop the capacity to trust. And, most people are actually sincere and well-intended, most of the time.

Therefore one discipline I have cultivated as a matter of mental health and social functioning is the discipline of trusting in the good intentions of others.

One of the benefits of the discipline is that it helps save me from the embarrassment caused by attacking and making snide comments to someone that then turn out to be completely unfounded.

November 22, 2007
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WD
When discussing capital punishment the lines of good intention can be blurred. It's a very emotional topic since it represents the very core of justice and defines how our social fabric is woven.
The trust issue can also be blurred by the constant propagandsa we get fed everyday, and the broken relationships everywhere...and yea, maybe my trust compass is outta wack.
I apologise.
Unfortunately our culture is built on victimizing along with all the wonderfull inventions and technologies that are offered for our ease.
Instant gratification at a cost. What will suffer, who will fall to elevate a new wonderous invention, drug or product?
too often good science becomes a dagger .
USA's present Prescription drug industry is an example. Money takes precidence over health really.

So how do we find balance and prevent these "inventions" from taking a wrong turn into victimizing?

I'm jaded, I know. But that's what happens when your surrounded by such BS, abuse and lies.

I apologise again if you aren't guilty of such things.
and as for the matter of mental health and social functioning?
To me trust is earned. It's easy to follow a social rule book of niceties with strangers and associates. I can honestly say I follow those rules 95 % of the time in real life.

Anonymous Codependance forum.That's the billing for this group.
When I achieve a perfectly abundant functioning life of prosperity and grace I wonder where that forum is? anyone know? I want to be a fly on the wall and maybe pupate into one of those beings.

November 22, 2007
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Hi msguided,

Like I said the whole thing creeps me out, too. It's weird--you know, inventors are always amazed by the cleverness of their own gadgets, and this one is so timely.

On the other hand, maybe it is for the best that the "cruel and unusual punishment" theme gets played as long as possible. If we can get past the "need" to extract lethal vengeance on the most evil members of society, maybe as a species we can get past the whole killing thing entirely.

And...much as I like recognition for my cleverness, I don't really fancy going down in history as the inventor of this gadget. Sheesh, what if they name it after me and my name becomes synonymous with instant death?

"Our top story tonight: Sunni insurgents WD six foreign photojournalists."

About trust:

A friend of mine used to say "Don't make paranoia a way of life."

To which I would respond: "I agree--keep it as a hobby."

Point being that since most people are pretty trustworthy, it is a waste of energy to have suspicion be our default value. And it leads to unnecessary harshness. Heck, it leads to costly and unnecessary wars. And it is hard on our souls.

So my value is: Mistrust must be earned.

November 23, 2007
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Hey WD

In light of your latest technological advances...should we maybe change your moniker???

Maybe WMD ??

just a thought :o)

November 23, 2007
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Paranoi?
not in my nature.

Choosing the wrong partners and friends? yes in the past.
Why?
Too much trust! Having a warped reality meter.

Sorry. It's just different walking in a womans shoes through life:
they tend to pinch the toes, can cause real pedial problems, are mostly made to excentuate looks, cost too much and don't last long.
I sometimes buy mens shoes. They are comfortable, last longer, are quality made and usually don't cost as much.
But then people look at you sidelong and knock you for that too.
Get the metaphor?LOL

November 23, 2007
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This is a joke? Right?

Anyhoo...

Hey misguided!!! I sometimes wear my husbands tshirts, but he wears my clothes, so I think we are even! LOL!!!

November 23, 2007
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Hi Msguided,

I couldn't wear women shoes.

How do you walk without breaking your ankles?

Hi survivor.

Well, I wasn't joking--not sure about everyone else.

November 23, 2007
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WD.
well you have to "trust" and allow the self abuse and outside pressure, and possible damage, to speak for how pretty you look.

Sacrifice ya know.

At least it isn't ancient chinese foot moulding, where they break your feet and squish them into little hooves, and you wear baby shoes for life. Sure looks pretty, but it was all about limiting your mobility.
I'm glad they illiminated such primitive rituals.

In some places women still get "circumsized"...well that is a light term, for really it's equivalent to a man having the whole head of his penis cut off.
Imagine having a useless Gnub?

You know I am pretty good a surrealist art. Dali is one of my artistic heroes and I tend to have a very visual approach to discribing things.

many people can't stomach Dali or any of the surrealist movement.

I was going to expand and create a female based metaphor for Capital punishment. To illustrate symbolically what an appeal or vieing for parole is like within the realm of everyday life.

I'll spare you all!HA!

One thing is for sure.
Some tend to hate, abuse or avoid what they don't understand.
Maybe that is the basis for all our troubles?

November 23, 2007
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Hi msguided,

Way back when, I thought my destiny was to be a painter. I got to be fairly good at it.

I fell in love with the Surrealists after reading Maurice Nadeau's book "The History of Surrealism."

These days I mainly do digital art--photos and Photoshop based stuff.

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