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September 2, 2008
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In honor of continuity, I have started this thread because I simply have to say -

" guest_guest

1-Sep-08

You're over loading me with these insights from the Dalai Lama! I just exploded all over my room with anger! I guess you're happy now?"

Dude! Too funny! LOL LOL LOL all over the place. I exploded in laughter all over the room when I read this.

Love you man. Chuga chuga

September 2, 2008
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yep, Guest, you're a funny one

and no, I wasn't happy you exploded, but now that I know what it takes..

seriously though, about the Dalai Lama and religion and explosion, I agree with you that people are comforted by the idea of a heaven, some kind of afterlife and that religion is great for controlling the masses, especially the poor and/or angry masses

and perhaps the Dalai Lama isn't perfect and maybe some of what he says is very obvious, but the messages are a lot easier for me to embrace than the shaming, abusive criticism I got from the nuns in Catholic school

I'm older than you, Guest, and too tired to put up a fight about the Dalai Lama

genocide, poverty, war - they get my attention

BAM

September 2, 2008
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Thanks Bevdee for this opportunity to continue to share on all this from the other thread.

Guest-I am so perplexed by you, ha and myself. I've thought about what to say, how to say it and decided I'd just dive in and let my "Eclectic, Eccentric" personality just shine through. That's with my highly DEvolved sense of humor.

My intent here is to be clear...it's actually a burden sometimes. First and foremost let me just say (I'm quoting my dad-may he rest in peace.) "I don't give a big red rats _ _ _" if you and Tez disagree on the Dalai Lama. As a matter of fact I think this site is a great place and a safe place to do that.

When I opened that thread, it's out of an honest interest in what the Dalai Lama has to say because I am on a spiritual quest for truth as it unfolds to me in many different ways. My questions come from a genuine searching heart. It did bother me that my questions appeared to ignite an attack of fireballs from you. This is where I really want to be clear. It matters not to me if you attack other people and their ideas or thoughts what matters to me is I did feel used. Now with that said I did get your response post to that and do appreciate what you said.

And, yes, I will worry with you. I want to get to know you better. I in my youth was very very defensive whenever I did share my thoughts and opinions, and I feel you and I are similar in that-just at different places on our respective journeys. That defensiveness for me came from lots and lots of junk, so I lashed out. Heck I even lashed out in defense when I posted my first thread or two on the other side late July. And I honestly was NOT trying to. I would have thought I was past that...still healing and more to heal:)

For me, I'm grateful I have a therapist who understands Narcissism, Codependency, Abusive relationships and is helping me sort all that out-bleh!

I digress, in any case, it would be kool to have an open dialogue with you if you'd like. I'm not thinking we agree on theology. (If I remember right on other threads you're an Atheist-correct?) The greatest part is I think it's the greatest that people have different views and can learn and grow from each other.

What an incredibly journey... LIFE:)

(((Guest)))

(((AAC)))

September 2, 2008
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Guest,

PS I really don't understand what the term Atheist actually means. Does it mean you don't believe in God, or you don't believe in anything spiritual? Again, my question is coming from searching for truth, understanding.

September 2, 2008
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Longshot- You're welcome.

G_Dude- I wish you could express your humor and kindness in person, in real life the way you do here. You crack me up with them zingers!!!

I'm trying to express myself in my actual life, when asked or when pertinent, and I have found that calmly stated opinions get less of a reaction than those that are emotionally charged.

September 2, 2008
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Ok, sometimes I wish I could go back and edit my posts. Thank goodness to (((free))) for pointing out I could change my mind:)

The comment "I in my youth" kind of makes me laugh at myself...I'm still in my youth!! As I tell my teenagers you're only as old as you feel.

You may have heard this before, and if so great! It applies to me here:

When I'm laying in my casket I do not want people saying "My she looks great doesn't she?" I want them to say "What happened to her?" I want to come screeching into my casket on my Harley and scream WOW WHAT A GREAT RIDE!!!!!

September 2, 2008
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🙂 At the age of about 96 just like my Grandma!!!

September 2, 2008
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Bevdee, glad you enjoyed it. I'm funny in real life too, just depends on how relaxed I'm feeling.

>> I'm trying to express myself in my actual life, when asked or when pertinent, and I have found that calmly stated opinions get less of a reaction than those that are emotionally charged.

What do you mean by that? I thought calmdy stated stuff comes out stronger and as a winner. I usually put in emotions and unstability in whatever I'm doing and it backfires. I try to calm myself but it doesnt work. Hmm.

September 2, 2008
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Hi Longshot, dont worry at all. I' not offended by anything (yea I mean that) and I offend a lot of people. But thanks, you are a nice person! I lack the Z1-Offensive gene. Found out on Jerry Springer in the paternity test on national TV.

Atleast you're ok with me being an athiest. Everyone else here I told about me being an athiest, they'd say, "Whattt, let me go get my shot gun!" Thankfully they realized I'm sitting on a computer behind the screen.

Athiesm means, one who doesnt believe in God.

So how are you all? I got a headache and I'm tired. Hopefully gonna sleep early tonight.

September 2, 2008
10:00 pm
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Thanks BAM! I'm also usually tired.

September 2, 2008
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How come can I find lots of energy to say something critical but when there might be something good to say, I slack off and disappear off the scene? Sup with that? I dont know if its a good thing or not. Mmm. Yea, I cant tell. A "duh" moment for me.

September 2, 2008
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Guest,

I think you're afraid to be vulnerable. Afraid to be hurt. We all know there's a warm and fuzzy Guest just waiting to gently explode scattering rainbows and stars and giant flakes of glitter.

BAM

September 2, 2008
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Maybe little inner child Guest needs a cuddle. Get yourself a race car bed, some Star Wars sheets, and bunny slippers. Make some cocoa, even if it's not the season. Go nuts - put in marshmallows, as many as you want. Nurture little inner child Guest...

sweet dreams, ride a white unicorn to a happy place...

BAM

September 2, 2008
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okay, I think I went a little overboard...

marshmallows really aren't necessary - they're just sugar, and I did receive a warning about pushing sugar on you,

but, hey, I'm Mary Fucking Poppins - spoonful of sugar and all that

okay, I'm done
time for prayers...

Now I lay me down to sleep
I hope that if there IS a hell, I won't burn there forever

and if there IS a heaven, well, there are probably a lot of others far more deserving than I

the Catholics have that limbo place -guess that would be okay

reincarnation, well, I'm cool with that

completely nothing, that's okay, too

big-assed Mary Poppins

September 2, 2008
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I dont know, I'm always too tired. I had to do some stuff but I end up spending time on my computer. Well lets see...... ah.. I gotta get married. That can wait, I wanna play this game. Thats how I am.

I had to try to find some girl's phone number but I'm too lazy. Lets see... alright. I'll go look in my call logs.

September 2, 2008
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the computer is an amazing time sucker isn't it?

September 2, 2008
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does this girl whose number you're searching for have a big ass?

September 2, 2008
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I hope so :(( or I'll kill myself. I dont know honestly. Well, I got her number. So I've done enough work for today. I'm so happy! How could I ever take care of a baby, I cant even find a phone number from my call logs. I just dont have enough energy.

Its like an online dating thing. I'll have to wait till we go to a restuarant and I'll open the door for her. Thats why men open doors, we wanna get behind the lady and check out her butt. Women think we do it because we're nice ..... same goes for all those cars stopping screeching when a girl wants to cross the street but no one waits for me except the garbage truck :((.

Anyway. I got a toy helicopter I play with nowadays. I have stuff that I bought which is good, temporarily.

September 2, 2008
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oh, come on, we know you're checking out our butts

hey, don't bring up taking care of babies on the first date, one step at a time, you don't want to scare her off

a toy helicopter? well, I see that you've already taken care of "inner child Guest"

truly off to bed now

you've got a lot more going for you than you think

I'm going to do it...here it comes...get ready...okay...

((((((Guest))))))

a big ass hug, just for you

September 3, 2008
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lol wow. thanks. I guess thats as close as a big ass hug I'll ever get in life :(( oops.

Ah my neck is aching, I need an advil. I played with my helicopter now. I'm getting good at it.

September 3, 2008
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Ah Miss MaryP!! I know you from Texas now girl - you say ass all the time!!

I don't know if G_Dude is warm and fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure he is bald and has red fuzzy eyebrows - like the Y on candy mountain.

G_Dude - I meant that you won't get such strong reactions to your opinions if you state yours calmly and pleasantly. In real life, anyway.

September 3, 2008
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Yea I know. I could be more polite and stuff, but its hard. I ask myself nowdays, why should I be nice to people....its hard. Is it worth the trouble trying to worry about if people are getting offended or not. Actually I'm out of energy thats why its hard, otherwise its easy in my good moods.

Well, I'm sleepy! Looks like I'll sleep early. Would suck if I still woke up tired.

September 3, 2008
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Hi Guest and everyone!

I'm kinda tired....I work long hours the first 2 weeks of the month and regular hours after that. Anyway, as I was working today I had moments of great thoughts to share and poof, they're gone now. Anyway, I do want to say that of course I wouldn't criticize you for your beliefs. I'd actually like to understand Atheism better. As long as you don't try to convert me he he he. And, don't worry I won't try to convert you either!!:)

I have a rough time explaining my beliefs...as I said my eccentric, eclectic self will surely shine through!!! For me, the utmost importance is truth, I suppose I should say my truth, what I discern as truth in my heart.

Yes I believe in God. However I do NOT believe what the majority of organized religions currently teach. I feel the early church fathers (you know the ones who decided what was in what we today call the Bible) left out part of scripture because they didn't like what it said or whatever their reasoning-I don't know (would like to learn more about that too).

At the very same time, I believe there are lots of other ways to attain the truth, which is my own personal quest. I read writings from the Ayurveda (Vedic) teachings, Ghandi, the Dalai Lama, Buddha, just to name a few. With that said, I want to say straight up, no I do not know all the history behind them and their teachings. Partly because of limited time, partly because I know that no one is perfect, and mainly because I let what's said or that I read resonate inside me, discern for myself what's truth and go on with my life.

I do not want to ever push my beliefs onto someone else. I share them here only to grow and learn from others who may share none, one, some, or all.

Ok, well that's enough for the moment.

September 3, 2008
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I sound so cut and dried. And that's not me at all....I'm going to watch t.v.

Night.

September 3, 2008
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((((all of us))))

Bevdee - I don't know how I wound up in this land of giant belt buckles, cowboy hats and boots, big trucks, and conservatism! My daughter stirred up her elementary school when she decided to become a Wiccan. Little Baptists telling her she was "goin' to Ha-ell fur not believin' in Jeesus". ASSholes.

Guest - did you wake up tired?

Longshot - I'm kind of where you're at as far as other religions go. I've lived overseas and worked with international students for years and years, and there seems to be something good in every culture and in many religions.

Take care everyone!

Mary

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