Avatar
Please consider registering
guest
sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_TopicIcon
Question please
June 6, 2005
5:08 pm
Avatar
on my way
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: -1
Member Since:
September 29, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I do not know the answer to this question. But if you know my beliefs and my background, please see if you can help me to understand?

How do we know the difference between a desire, dream, seed that is planted by Him, and one that is ego? I cannot drop the seed, no matter how hard I try, I beleive it with all of my heart in regard to someone that I know. I have tried but I always come back to the simple faith of it all.

I could be crazy, I could be codep about it all, but it is a quiet faith..so how do we know the difference, or do we?

thanks..another weird one from me I know.
Hopefully I am following guide lines as I do not mean to break them.

June 6, 2005
5:21 pm
Avatar
mamacinnamon
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: 0
Member Since:
September 27, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

You know the difference by searching out what he says to you in writings. Speak to him and ask. Then stop and listen. Some answers come quick and some a lifetime.

Hope that helps a bit.

June 6, 2005
5:25 pm
Avatar
on my way
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: -1
Member Since:
September 29, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Was hoping you would answer this one..thanks.
hugs & prayers dear friend.

June 6, 2005
5:28 pm
Avatar
mamacinnamon
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: 0
Member Since:
September 27, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Have some lyrics for you. Always works for me when I am at the point of what to do, what to think, at any crossroad.

I'm finding myself at a loss for words
And the funny thing is it's OK
The last thing I need is to be heard
But to hear what You would say

Chorus:
Word of God speak
Would You pour down like rain
Washing my eyes to see
Your majesty
To be still and know
That You're in this place
Please let me stay and rest
In Your holiness

Word of God speak

I'm finding myself in the midst of You
Beyond the music, beyond the noise
All that I need is to be with You
And in the quiet hear Your voice

Repeat Chorus twice

I'm finding myself at a loss for words
And the funny thing is it's OK

June 6, 2005
5:36 pm
Avatar
on my way
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: -1
Member Since:
September 29, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Thank you. I finally found this song on one of my CD's.

Funny thing is, I am being called to a place of quiet rest, a renewing of my spirit, to concentrate on Him only...never sone this before, as I have always put something or someone else in front.
It is hard for me to lean, to trust, to relinquish control, but most of all, it is difficult to be quiet and to listen. So here is another journey I am being placed in...amidst all of my busy thoughts, frivolous thoughts at times, and concentrating on others and the fears and challenges of my family at this time. I always tend to re-act, instead of just "Leaning". Hope this is an easy one!!!!
But it is true it is OK. Even filling in the silence in our spiritual lives is uncomfortable. But "it is OK!!"

June 6, 2005
5:52 pm
Avatar
lollipop3
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: -1
Member Since:
September 29, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Hi OMW.....I'm not sure if this will help you or not, but I figured it couldn't hurt.

From Al-Anon's Courage to Change

I often struggle to know wht is my will and what is God's. I feel serenity slipping from me while a war is waged within my mind and loud voices urge me to take one path or another.

Doubt is an unavoidable comanion of spiritual seeking. I don't have an instruction book, so I must continue to explore and challenge my perceptions. I know that when I feel a desperate urge to act, it is usually my will that is pushing, and when i feel a calm certainty, it is usually God's. But much of the time, I don't have such a clear indication. What then? Sometimes I wait for clarity or try to listen more closely for guidence; I may share my confusion and ask for the wisdom of others; or I may just make a choice, take an action, and see what happens. More will be revealed when the time is right, no matter what choice I make. Since I have turned my will and my life over to God, any choice I make can be used to carry out His will.

Today I will remember that uncertainty is not a fault but an opportunity. Everything I do and everthing that crosses my path - people, situations, ideas - all have the potential to contribute to my growth and understanding. Just for today, I don't have to know what that contribution will be.

Lolli

June 6, 2005
6:01 pm
Avatar
Rasputin
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: 0
Member Since:
September 30, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Sweetie,

You are Not being Selfish if you have dreams and goals. But b/c we codeps people have been deprived of love, most of us were not nurtured as kids; we tend to think of ourselves as selfish whenever we start to love ourselves as an effort for healing and bringing some balance to our parched souls.

I used to struggle a lot with that Omw, it was part of my healing. I realized that self-love is not sinful as long as we do not harm another person. "Love your neighbor AS YOURSELF."

If you have a dream, goal, vision, give it to God, pray about it, keep praying and He will bring it forth at the right moment. A good book which you mentioned to me a few weeks ago was "The Dream giver" by Bruce Wilkinson. That book is excellent in enhancing your every right not to feel guilty about dreaming.

I think as codeps, we tend to be very hard on ourselves, and tend to mirror our parents and siblings and circles pattern and views of us.

But do not worry, honey, God can heal the most broken heart no matter what the pain, traumas, agonies...you went through!

I hope I answered your quesiton, honey!

(((Hugs & Prayers)))

June 6, 2005
6:01 pm
Avatar
lollipop3
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: -1
Member Since:
September 29, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Another one is.....shorter version

The only times I have ever found lasting satisfaction were when I let go of self-will and comitted myself to seeking the will of my Higher Power. Prayer and meditation are two means by which I seek to discover what God's will holds for me, and they help me to gain access to the power to carry it out.

Sometimes my hopes and desires are my forms of guidance. When I am willing to place God's will above my own, those dreams have a chance of becoming a wonderful reality.

The path to my true heart's desire is to surrender to the will of my Higher Power.

"We know that God can and will do anything that is for our ultimate good, if we are ready to receive His help."

I hope these helped.

Lolli

June 6, 2005
6:01 pm
Avatar
mamacinnamon
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: 0
Member Since:
September 27, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Very well said Lolli...

I loaned my Al-anon book out and it hasn't ever found it's way home. Do wish I could get another coz I read from it almost daily.

June 6, 2005
6:03 pm
Avatar
lollipop3
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: -1
Member Since:
September 29, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Mama,

I don't know what I'd do without these.

I have 3 daily readers from Al-Anon that I read every night before bed.

I'd be lost without them!!!

Lolli

June 6, 2005
6:13 pm
Avatar
on my way
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: -1
Member Since:
September 29, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Lolli, thanks you so well put. This does help in many ways, much wisdom here to think about. I probably need to seek out Alanon meetings at some point.
And, Ras, you are right I agree we do not trust our judgements as codependents either, I know generally I question to the n'th degree, which is where my lack of trust enters in.
I wonder, how do we cross that bridge? As children we are taught that emotions are not acceptable or right. With all that I have been shown in the spiritual, it seems like such a slow pace at times. Could be I am holding on to things I need to let go of, or maybe just not trusting what has been given me. Makes sense, as I do not beleive someone could love me for me..so hard to beleive that God could as well.

Would be intersting to do a study, to list codependent traits, then verses to counteract them.

I so appreciate the support.
Ras, Lolli, whenever I see anything written about my heart I just cry. I don't know why, but a very key word for me now..I think it is a "zippered one".

June 6, 2005
6:52 pm
Avatar
Rasputin
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: 0
Member Since:
September 30, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Omw,

Sef-esteem is a global problem! Everybody suffers from it but in different ways.

You would be surprised if I tell you that I was reading a psychological article on the internet which stated that we all have inferiority complex! Can you believe that???

Being codep people, we are among the 1st to have this complex.

That is why we need to fill up our love tank on daily basis from the fountain of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Every morning I wake up, the 1st thing I do is to fill up that tank while I am making my morning coffe. Without this morning ritual, I would not be able to help anybody on this site or resume my other activities.

So, do not feel self-conscious or beat yourself up!

I hope I managed to bring forth a smile on your sweet face! 🙂

XOXOXO

June 6, 2005
7:32 pm
Avatar
on my way
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: -1
Member Since:
September 29, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Ras, yep smiles here.
You are right. Fill up the love tank and be available. I just want to be so much further than I am, need to accept all as is..a gift of sorts.

June 6, 2005
7:56 pm
Avatar
on my way
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: -1
Member Since:
September 29, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Found this, thought it was inspiring, is to me anyway. Just a thought to print it here.

Be Satisfied With Me -
author unknown

Everyone longs to give themselves completely to someone;

To have a deep soul relationship with another; To be loved thoroughly and exclusively ;

But, He says: No, not until you are satisfied, filled and content with being loved by Me alone with giving yourself totally and unreservedly to Me alone discovering that only in Me is your satisfaction to be found will you be capable of the perfect human relationship that I have planned for you. You will never be united with one another until you are united with Me. Exclusively for anyone or anything else; Exclusively for any other desires or longings I want you to stop wishing and allow Me to give you the most thrilling plan existing--- One that you cannot imagine I want you to have the best. Please allow Me to bring it to you. You must keep watching Me, expecting the greatest things. Keep experiencing the satisfaction that I am, keep learning the things that I want to tell you. You just wait, wait. That’s all. Don’t be anxious. Don’t worry Don’t look around at the things that others have gotten or that I have given them Don’t look at the things you think you want You just keep looking off and away to Me, or you’ll miss what I want to show you , and when you are ready I will surprise you with a love more beautiful than you could dream of. You see, until you are ready and until the one I have for you is ready, You will never be able to experience the great love that is waiting for you (I am working even at this very moment to have both of you ready at the same time) Until you are both satisfied with Me and the life I’ve prepared for you, you won’t be able to experience the love that exemplifies your relationship with Me, and this is the perfect love. And dear one, I want you to have the most wonderful love. I want you to see in the flesh a picture of your relationship with Me and enjoy materially and concretely the everlasting union of beauty, and perfection and love that I offer you with Myself. Know that I love you utterly ……… Believe it and be satisfied.

- Psalm 46:10

June 6, 2005
8:42 pm
Avatar
Rasputin
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: 0
Member Since:
September 30, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

How sweet of you sweetie for this lovely surprise, as if God told you to post it. This is just what I needed to read right now!!!

I will definitely save it in my document so that I can feed myself spiritually, esp. during these trying period we are going through.

Thank you so much sweetie, it reminded me of great book which I read by T.D. Jakes "The lady, her lover, her Lord." Excellent book about abused women and their life and how they reproduce abuse due to the abuse they had received.

Thank you, I will surely save it in my document.

(((Hugs)))

June 7, 2005
2:16 am
Avatar
sewunique
New Member
Members
Forum Posts: -1
Member Since:
September 27, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

This is a great thread and I have nothing to add.....just reading and gleaning wonderful food for thought from everyone. Time for reflection for me, I guess, so I am in the process of just taking it all in, short on words, full of thought, but I am here with you all!

Sew/C

Forum Timezone: UTC -8
Most Users Ever Online: 247
Currently Online:
33
Guest(s)
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
onedaythiswillpass: 1134
zarathustra: 562
StronginHim77: 453
free: 433
2013ways: 431
curious64: 408
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 49
Members: 110935
Moderators: 5
Admins: 3
Forum Stats:
Groups: 8
Forums: 74
Topics: 38543
Posts: 714223
Newest Members:
jessicawales, documentsonline, SafeWork, thomasalina, genericsmartdrugs, 才艺
Moderators: arochaIB: 1, devadmin: 9, Tincho: 0, Donn Gruta: 0, Germain Palacios: 0
Administrators: admin: 21, ShiningLight: 572, emily430: 29

Copyright © 2019 MH Sub I, LLC. All rights reserved. Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Cookie Policy | Health Disclaimer