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Prophetic ministries
December 31, 2009
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I just came back from a very long service that a friend of mine invited me. Seems like they are able to pray over you and tell you things about yourself. They said they were annointed with the prophetic gift. There were going from person to person just telling them things about them and how they were going to get a new car, mend a broken relationship, etc. And when they prayed for someone they would fall to the floor and there was always someone to hold their back as they fell.

I came home and really needed to pray about that. I am very confused as to whether this is really from the Lord. I dont want to judge anyone's believes. But I didnt feel comfortable at all.

 

 

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December 31, 2009
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It's called superstition.

December 31, 2009
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If you were uncomfortable then it is most likely not for you. Best thing I can suggest is get into the Bible and see what it says about things like this.

December 31, 2009
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Sounds like a dangerous Cult to me.

December 31, 2009
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It was the sort of Benny Hinn ministry type of thing. I know my g/f believes in him all the way..but going to these small service was like looking at the Benny Hinn television show.

I was sitting there praying to God just so that he can let me be there protected and if I was wrong, to let me know.

They claim to be a Foursquare church, pentecostal. I have been to this church a couple of times as my g/f keeps inviting me, but now I am convinced that this is not for me.

I will read what the bible says about prophets.

Thank you.

 

 

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December 31, 2009
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I Corinthians 14:39 "...covet to prophesy..."

It is, indeed, Scriptural to prophesy and many people move in this legitimate gifting of the Holy Spirit. As you know, I am a minister. My ministry is prophetic. People drive for hours, just to receive prophetic encouragement through our outreach of the Holy Spirit.

This is simply an operation of the Holy Spirit which was "commonplace, ordinary and normal" during the church of the Book of Acts. I have had probably HUNDREDS of prophetic words for individuals that turned out to be dead-on accurate, even though I had never met them before and did not know their circumstances...but God did and He wanted to encourage them and get them through whatever was facing them.

I would encourage you to study the New Testament (particulary the epistles to the Corinthians), before throwing away an opportunity to receive this personal encouragement from the Lord. First time I ever saw or heard such prophetic ministry (about 23 years ago), I was skeptical. Today, I have experienced so much of it, firsthand, that I know it to be a genuine gift from God.

- Ma Strong

December 31, 2009
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if you felt confused inside it wasn't right. the true spirit of the Lord brings peace to your heart. find a quiet place and pray for the right things to come your way.

January 1, 2010
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I pray to the tooth fairy. Same results as when I used to pray to God. Hit n miss. Choose your myth and spin the wheel.

January 1, 2010
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2BHAPPY,
Though there is only one God there are infinite ways to receive Him. If this way is not working for you, it's okay. It doesn't mean there is anything wrong with that church or that there is anything wrong with you. He made each of us unique and he made as many avenues to reach us as there are people to be reached.

January 2, 2010
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Well, that's certainly a more sophisticated way of viewing it. But, does it even have to be a "God" per se? What's wrong with worshiping say...the universe? We can prove that it exists without instilling feelings of guilt, inadequacy or uttering ultimatums/threats of retribution if you don't worship it. Can't say that about xianity?

January 2, 2010
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My dear CraigCo, what do you ask the Tooth Fairy for? He/She/It seems to have pretty limited powers, but since dental work is expensive, it's probably worth a try.

What are the rules for the Tooth Fairy religion? Is there a book? Can I get a plastic Tooth Fairy for my dashboard? Should I loop some floss around my rear-view mirror?

When I dream that all my teeth fall out, am I closer or further away from him? Is he communicating to me in these dreams? I read that losing your teeth in dreams is about sex. Seems Freud believed that every kind of dream, except an actual sexual dream, was about sex.

And, speaking of sex, what does the Tooth Fairy religion believe about, um, self pleasuring? Because my current bf runs on batteries, and I need to find a religion that's okay with that.

Do we go to the Tooth Fairy if we die? Is Hell a giant dentist's office, on a lake of fire (of course) AND in a mall AND with dentists who got kicked out of dental school?

Mary

January 2, 2010
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"if" we die! ha

January 2, 2010
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LOL at Mary!

Craig, you can call whatever you want, whatever you want to call it, whenever you want in whatever tone you want for as long as you want. Knock yourself out brother.

January 2, 2010
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Yea? Whenever, whatever, and without fear of reprisal? Cool! That's a load off - Thanks!

January 2, 2010
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Mary,

2 funny!

I think the fairy is ok with sex. Self indulging or otherwise. Thou shalt use it or loose it! (1 of the Fairy's commandments)
Wouldn't be any stranger/less believable than xian beliefs/rituals, would it?

ps I recommend the new "lithium" batteries. They should serve you well. No thanks necessary. Just think of me the next time yer at play. haha

C

January 3, 2010
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Craig -

Altho I am a Christian, I do not feel it either kind or appropriate to "knock" or mock other persons' beliefs. This does not stem merely from my "faith system," but from the manners which my mother instilled in me.

You are either very young or very thoughtless...or both.

- Ma Strong

January 3, 2010
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CragCo wrote:

"We can prove that it exists without instilling feelings of guilt, inadequacy or uttering ultimatums/threats of retribution if you don't worship it. Can't say that about xianity?"

I think we've already established here that there are SOME Christians who do the above actions.

It is my right to express my beliefs, and if it's my belief that religion is mythology and that statues on the dashboard or belief that there's only one door to heaven, or that there even is a heaven, is no different than belief in Santa Claus, I can state that, can't I?

How is it different than other posters stating, "There is only one God, and he is etc, etc."

We should be allowed to state what WE believe without being told that we're Christian bashing. That's simply an attempt, in my mind, to try to control our speech.

There's no need for one Christian to take responsibility for all Christians.

Christians are NOT victims. Please.

Mary

January 3, 2010
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And another thing, I and some others here have been victims of shaming and abuse at the hands of so-called "Christians", and we need to have a voice, too.

I believe it's our right, in sarcasm or otherwise, to speak out. Being shamed for who you are, being told that you have disappointed your Creator, being told that you'll burn in a lake of fire for your "sins", especially as children, are very huge sins in MY book. And MY book is just as valid to me as the Bible or the Holy Koran might be to others.

I have witnessed first-hand extreme hypocrisy in organized religion, and I'm still angry about it. I don't hold ALL Christians accountable for it, only the people who actually did the acts. They did these things USING God, and that is what I will continue to rail against.

There are those here that will try to turn this around and say that I'm some kind of Christian basher. I've seen it happen countless times here. I won't be shamed or bullied or silenced.

Mary

January 3, 2010
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Ma said:

"You are either very young or very thoughtless...or both."

Wrong again on both counts and to prove it, here is my retort:

I know you are, but what am I?

Mary,

Silence - you heathen!! lol
Got a kick out of your post(s) - again. Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. I've nothing to add right now. Can't be bothered to engage with folks re-the controlling invisible man in the sky. There's better fairy tails than that anyhow. Think I'll just go play with my Tonka toys n pout. 🙁

Cc

January 3, 2010
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wanna play doctor instead?

January 3, 2010
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And Ma, I hope you know that I respect you a great deal and appreciate that you have never tried to force your religious beliefs on me or anyone else here. Your explanation to TBT about what you do was very interesting, and it's quite clear that your message is one of love and compassion and not control. It's exciting that you get to travel overseas - I'm happy for you and hope all is well.

You didn't address your post to me, but I wanted to explain my position. I shouldn't have tried to speak for CraigCo, but I've found him to be a good person in my exchanges with him at this site.

Mary

January 3, 2010
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Hi CraigCo.

In making tongue-in-cheek references to your faith in the tooth fairy, you were highlighting the dangers of having blind faith. I find Richard Dawkins fascinating on this topic. Dawkins normally decimates 'xtain' fundamentalist believers very quickly, therein incurring their wrath.

However, when Dawkins interviewed that renowned astrophysicist, Father George Coyne, the story was ever so different. It was a case of rationalist scientist versus rationist scientist, the former of being an atheist whilst the latter a theist. Yet both agreed on so much that it was refreshing.

When pushed hard enough by Dawkins Father Coyne finally had to agree that when the domain of science is extended beyond its present boundary limits then beliefs are 'up for grabs', as it were. Coyne gave his personal belief about 'his reality' in this domain beyond the limits of scientific knowledge. Richard Dawkins then had to graciously agree to disagree but Dawkins did sincerely respect his opponent's faith based beliefs. However Coyne's God based beliefs were- as best as I could see - far from the main stream 'xtain party line'.

As I see it, Dawkins's main 'bitch' is against teaching religious beliefs to the young and naive as being facts rather than as being just beliefs and nothing else.

Please enjoy the Dawkins-Coyne interview.

January 3, 2010
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Dear Mary,

I do understand. You have shared in the past some of your "experiences" with organized religion. I would (and HAVE in the past) shared your viewpoint because of my own woundedness in that Department.

I will always like you.

- Ma Strong

January 3, 2010
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Oh, Ma, that's so sweet. I will always like you, too. Knowing you through this site has helped me heal wounds. Thank you!

Mary

January 3, 2010
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Just as a generic post (to no one poster in particular)...referring to Christians (or Christianity in general) as "xtians" or "xtianity" is as hurtful and insulting as calling African-Americans "niggers." It is a simple matter of consideration and respect for the beliefs and diversity of others. I practice this to those of other beliefs to the best of my ability and hope to receive the same courtesy and sensitivity in return.

There should be no "bashing" on this planet, regardless of who believes what or in whatever. As an olde lady, I long for peace and acceptance of one another's differences.

- Ma

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