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Power vs Faith
May 20, 2006
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Why is it hard to find good kind people in high position? Why is it when someone has position or power, they turn into tyrant opressing others esp Christians and people of true values and principles?

Is there some secret that makes people turn into evil monsters when they get $, power, position, promotion etc.

I asked this question once to a man and he said: Position spoils people.

Is there something fundamental about high position that turns people like that?

Is having an ideal boss at work: someone fair, honest, trustworthy is a far from reach dream?

Opinions and feedback please!

~Ras~

May 21, 2006
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Bumping this up.

May 21, 2006
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hi Ras,

my thoughts are that power in the wrong hands is dangerous. almost like the "Lord of the Rings"...frodo was the only one who could carry the ring.

i also think that people attain power for the wrong motives perhaps. for example, the Pharisees in the Bible. so by the time they reach the top they seem powerful enough but in fact they are 'powerless'.

it takes a special type of individual to be able to use their position in the right way. as you know already, we believe those are 'gifts' given to us by the Holy Spirit to glorify God, yes?

there are people in power who do not mis-use that power. these people i think earn that respect. people like John Maxwell, Stormie Omartian, to name but a select few. "To whom much is given, much is required." God knows how much to give at the right time.

then there is the fact that we are also told to respect those in authority over us. this is not always easy. i have been at my current job for almost 5 yrs. during that time my boss, who is an absolute angel to work with/for, drove me nuts with his disrespsect. i didn't know what to say, because i knew if i opened my mouth it would be all over. one day i just walked out i was so frustrated. but that was not handling the issue very well. it would have been better to talk to him most likely. but i started to pray and ask God what He wanted to teach me in that situation. He showed me that it was ME not my boss. from that point on, believe it or not, my relationship with him began to change for the better.

so faith and power together can be a 'powerful' combination if used correctly.

hope this helps to answer your question.

omw

May 21, 2006
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Thanks Omw for your insightful answer. I agree with so many things mentioned in your post.

However, I am a great believer that $$$$/position/power corrupt people, as I indicated thru my friend's reply in my 1st post.

I believe that when $ is given to us, we tend to change...for the worse. We begin to think that we are god-like, become self-sufficient and turn into tyrants self-centered individuals.

There are many people who love $; yet claim to be Christians or the other way round. They claim to be Christians; yet love $$$. These folks really bewilder me. Not that I love poverty. I just believe strongly in what the Bible has very wisely indicated "

"You cannot worship God and money, for either you will love the one and despise the other."

Can't remember the biblical verse, unfortunately.

I believe that the less money we have, the more spiritual we become and the more God can use us to bring glory to His name.

I hope to have some other replies and input from others.

~Ras~

May 21, 2006
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My sister and brother-in-law for example are very intelligent people. They took the brains that God gave them and used thier talents to do their specific job that they have. My sister is retired at 59...because she can. But my point is, they are two of the most loving and HUMBLE people on the face of this earth. They love God, and worship him..They know the source of that income. So using them as examples, that particular Bible verse is for those who make money their god rather than realizing where thta blessing comes from. You have two different categories of people here...according to the attitudes of their hearts. and i think therein lies the key.

May 21, 2006
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Ras,

{I hope to have some other replies and input from others.}

On your last thread, you asked at one point for input, refused it when I gave you mine, and then said you just wanted to vent. I'm going to assume you're really venting here and will not comment.

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May 21, 2006
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I meant that I will not comment.

May 21, 2006
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omw,

I agree with you. I believe that it's possible to handle large sums of $ (boy, wouldn't I want the chance!), power, and authority without losing sight of God who gave them to you. I also believe that most people do not pass that test. Hence, it appears that money corrupts, when it only gives people the (to many) irresistible chance to corrupt themselves.

May 22, 2006
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(((Seeker)))

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((gingerleigh))

Hope you're doing well!

May 23, 2006
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Ras hiya!!!

I don't know personally many people who would have high-powered jobs...but I suppose its all relative. However, I remember when I was a youngster I worked part-time in a well known irish chain-store for a time. We had a manager who was only a few years older than us, and my god was she power hungry...I think it just goes to people heads! If they've been squashed on their way up, then when they get to the top they'll act out on the ones below them!

But I have a theory on those really really successful people with real high-powered jobs...y'know the work-addict types who are just ultra-ambitious...I think those people have no soul...or perhaps they've lost it along the way, they've become so obsessed with their own power and position that they have tunnel-vision and cannot or will not see the real world...they don't have the time to see or explore or examine humanity, the world at large, human nature, love, peace, sadness, happiness....ROBOTS! I'd bet that a lot of those people have NPD.

Rev.

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May 23, 2006
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Thanks Rev for your input. Yes, I agree with you. I believe when people are in high position, or when they get wealthy, most of them change.

I've always heard that money $$$ changes people and I strongly find it very true.

Of course, they are a few exceptions to every rule and it's applicable in this case.

I read once at Reader's Digest magazine about a man who was a very generous and benevolent millionaire. When he was asked about the reason for his kindness he replied that he lived a very harsh life b4 he became wealthy and thus wanted to help and identified with people's troubles and afflictions.

These are the type of people I love. Even tho they are rich and wealthy, they did not neglect or forget their fellow brothers and sisters.

I hope some more people will find this subject interesting and give their feedback!

~Ras~

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