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Please help if you can from omw, thanks
February 6, 2009
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I posted this on Support side but meant to post it in Libs..

I have to vent and AAC seems the best place to do it.

I am in such turmoil. Please help if you can.

My son's legal case: Our attorney, in hindsight was extremely unethical. He filed documents with the court AFTER the sentence. He encouraged my son not to go to trial because he said "the police would lie on the stand and that we didn't have a chance." He said the "jurors would all be old folks and Mormon and professionals that we didn't have a chance"...and this was before a jury was even chosen. He lied, did not do any work on this case and charged us thousands of dollars. For over 15 months we were on "high alert", and trusted this attorney to do his job. The a**hole who attacked my son we found out from another attorney was a paid informant and screwed up. The Medical records of this a**hole were reviewed by our expert witness who said that my son had a good defense. The Dr who treated my son for his injuries said my son had no injuries that would indicate that he hurt anyone, but that he was the one that was hurt. Our attorney ignored all information that came in to prove my son's innocence, he poo-pooed it away...oh and he did not do anything about the fact that one of the Sgts. on the police force "lost" an audio tape of my son asking for an attorney because his 'father'died!!! Evidence that was supposed to locked up with a video in the evidence vault at the police station was lost by a policeman (which I doubt)and the video was never produced either...they with held evidence. My attorney supported this!!!!

I have to file a complaint with the State Bar, but if anyone has any other advice I would certainly appreciate it. I am at my wits' end, and I don't want to do what I know I need to do, and that is take this man to task.

February 6, 2009
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Ugh, OMW - I'm so so sorry this is happening. I think you're doing the only thing that you can do at this point, aside from hiring another attorney and starting over. How did you go about choosing this attorney in the first place? Just curious, because if you want through any sort of referral service, that would probably be the place to go first. And who is this other attorney who told you about the paid informant? Unfortunately, it seems you've been led down a long and expensive road by an attorney who was obviously too busy to care about your case. Have you consulted another attorney - maybe one with more time and more interest in your case? It seems that you have a lot of supported claims where you can actually get somewhere with your case, but it also seems that whatever info you have against your current attorney is his word against yours, unless you have some of the things he told you in writing. I sure as hell hope you get somewhere with this, but you may have to cut your losses with this attorney and all that he HASN"T done for you, and pursue your case with the facts that you have by choosing another attorney. Unfortunately, justice these days doesn't seem to have anything to do with the laws. The laws seem to work against us in the courtroom, and seem to protect the law enforcement agencies more than the people. It all sucks. I know my rantings don't really give you an answer, but just know that I'm rooting for you. love - shaney

February 6, 2009
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Hi Shaney,

I appreciate your response. YOu seem to understand what I am talking about, most likely from experience on your part? 🙂

How did I find this attorney? I used to date him 10 years ago, when I was a needy codependent! Dating him was a horrible experience too...you would think I would have learned from that experience itself. But we remained friendly (as in if I saw him somewhere we said hello type friendly) until he was married a few years ago. I even worked for him at one point. So he knows my boys and my entire family.

I always thought that he was a great attorney, but in representing my son, he really displayed behavior that was unethical and unprofessional. He even admitted to me a few weeks ago that he thought he had a drinking problem...I just listened, but at the time I felt like saying, "So that's why you have not been doing your job!"

What I cannot stand or tolerate, is the injustice of all that has happened. I really was not aware of the problems within the judicial system until this case with my son.

Regarding the other attorney, he is just a friend of my brother-in-law who had his investigator do some work for us after the fact.

It is such a long story. It has been so painful, I hate to go backwards, but I can't let it go.

February 6, 2009
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omw -

You can bring this matter to the attention of the Attorney General's office of your state as well as the Bar Association. An investigation could be done into this matter, but you would need some physical evidence, not just hearsay. It wouldn't hurt you to try or find out if anything could be done and you have nothing to lose by doing so.

February 6, 2009
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Hey there (((omw)) :o)

I really don't have any experience other than knowing several people who work for the police and sheriff depts around here. My h is a fireman, so we know a lot of them. I get to hear about the shady crap first hand, and at first I was shocked, but not any more. It's very disheartening.

What I've discovered about doing business with friends, is that they're usually the first to take advantage of the situation. It works both ways. I do graphic work, and the only people who have ripped me off, are my friends or family. I go the extra mile for them because they ARE my friends, and I usually end up getting the crappy end of the deal. I've also had friends who are contractors do things around our house. Because they consider us friends and are giving us a "deal," we're usually their last priority. So most of the time, it's best not to mix friendship with business - at least that's what I've learned. :o)

"It has been so painful, I hate to go backwards, but I can't let it go." Do what you can, as long as it makes sense mentally and emotionally. But if you find that at every turn is a dead end, then don't put yourself through the pain of it all any longer. I know it's hard to let go, especially when you're in the thick of it, and you feel you've been wronged for no good reason. It doesn't help if there are lasting effects due to someone else's negligence either. Doesn't your attorney have a conscience at all? Jeez! My h and I were just talking about this last night. I could never be an attorney, knowing that the fate of someones mental, physical, financial or emotional life was in my hands. The best possible hope of all is that you don't end up with an attorney who has become jaded, or lost their conscience.

Again, do the best you can with what you have in front of you right now. Forward momentum is good ---- try not to dwell on the unfortunate happenings of this situation. You can only do so much. I'm wishing only positive things for you :o)

February 12, 2009
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Shaney, Red, thank you for your response. It helps to know that I am not the only one who has these doubts.

"Do what you can, as long as it makes sense mentally and emotionally. But if you find that at every turn is a dead end, then don't put yourself through the pain of it all any longer. I know it's hard to let go, especially when you're in the thick of it, and you feel you've been wronged for no good reason."

This is the conclusion I came to this morning. I am sending a letter, and will see what happens. It is a battle that I have to decide which is most mentally and emotionally healthy at the moment? I really want to move forward. It has been so unhealthy that I think moving forward is the best decision right now. It is interesting, I really hate injustice, and never truly knew so much corruption existed until my son's case.

"It doesn't help if there are lasting effects due to someone else's negligence either."
This is actually a huge concern I have for my son at this time.

"Doesn't your attorney have a conscience at all?" No, he doesn't. I am convinced that he cares more about himself than his clients. He does the 'attorney dance', but in the end it is all for him. I could go on about him, but it isn't worth it.

Thank you again,

omw

February 12, 2009
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Oh, Miss OMW. I'm hoping that you don't look at this as defeat. Look at it as more of a way of surviving in a healthy way. And hopefully, assuming that your son is a young fella - he'll learn a big fat lesson from all of this. We all need to keep our noses clean and out of this flawed system. I hate to seem so jaded - but it's safest to rely on ourselves. Good luck OMW. Let go of the negative and find some peace somewhere in all of this. :o)

February 14, 2009
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OMW:

I'm gonna go against the norm here. My suggestion is yes, pursue it to the max but please wait until your son has served his time and is far from their reach. I have heard story after story, and I'm sorry, but if you tick off the wrong folks it is your son they will go after, not you. I'm not saying forget it; I'm just sayin hold off till your son is out of the system. There is nothing you can do for your son while he is on the inside if retaliation becomes a factor.

I'm sorry. I know you love your son more than your own life. Think on this; pray about it. Follow your gut and not your head on this one. Only you will know the right thing to do.

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