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New Study Reveals Most Children Unrepentant Sociopaths?
December 14, 2009
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Hmmmmm..... food for thought. Could explain a lot.

December 14, 2009
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Somehow I knew this was a WD thread- ha!

December 15, 2009
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That's what happens when you spoil them rotten from birth, get up in the middle of the night, numerous times, every night, until they are potty trained. That's what happens when you don't teach them bounderies and say NO when needed.

That study revelas something that is true for YOUNG children who aren't taught bounderies, respect for themselves and others. It's a liflong process from birth on and usually , if a kid is raised properly, their natural self centred tendencies fall away when they get past their teens.

GOOD LUCK now, Look at what kids turn to for entertainment? Most movies put out to teens have Narcissistic undertones. Always Good against Evil. Alwaya the moral teen is spereated from the herd. Looked upon as a loser.

I taught my son to watch ants, not step on them, to keep his hands to himself in the store, don't grab anything unless i ask him to. And i did ask him to "help" me shop, asked him to put itmes in the cart.I didn't hole my son up at home while he was a toddler, but took him to play centres every day. He was always around numerous children, so he learned how to interact.

My son never had "temper tantrums", wasn't violent, but man oh MAN did he ever have a lot of that sociopathic behaviour pointed HIS way in school.

And the teachers,other parents tried to shift it on him.

This world is sociopathic.

We're all Individuated, are on our own, wanting all the "stuf" we see advertised on TV. ALL tax paying drones and that's how our system wants it. We put our trust into the "system" and are noticing how WRONG things are.

The system parents us, we parent our kids.

WD. This really hits home for me. I have a son, who was raised in this crazy time. A lot of what he becomes is really beyond a parents control when they get into school.

I just made sure that the time where i had complete control, was filled with the right things.

I think that saved him.

He is a compassionate caring,loyal, intelligent, human being. Hopefully he can find success with these GOOD qualities!

December 21, 2009
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Everyone does realize that the source of this "study", the onion, is meant to be a joke, right?

December 21, 2009
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Not sure it is a 'joke' but from being a long time observer of children and how they interact with their peers, siblings and parents, etc. I have seen them act and react with what would be considered sociopathic behavior.

I mean, I have seen little kids hit eachother and then take whatever they 'desired' at the moment - without regard to whether they had hurt the other child or not. And even when they are 'caught' and reprimanded or 'talked to', seen that very child... go and do it again. I have even seen children bite other children (and draw blood) to get what they wanted. I have seen them scream and cry for long lengths of time to get whatever they wanted.. and after getting what they wanted... and tiring of it... start the process all over again.

Same goes when they DON'T want to do something.

"PROFILE OF THE SOCIOPATH

Descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.

Glibness and Superficial Charm

Manipulative and Conning:

They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

Grandiose Sense of Self:

Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

Pathological Lying:

Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt:

A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

Shallow Emotions:

When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

Incapacity for Love

Need for Stimulation:

Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

Callousness/Lack of Empathy:

Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature:

Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency:

Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

Irresponsibility/Unreliability:

Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity:

Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle:

Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility:

Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily."

Of course, not ALL of the above applies to children.

December 21, 2009
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Stewie, from the cartoon "Family Guy", is quite an example of sociopathic behavior, I think.

December 22, 2009
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Kid sociopaths??? Wonder where this study originated - Mad magazine perhaps?

Kooky thread in any event.

Admittedly there are a lot of brats out there these days, but from my experience 99% of the time bad behaviour can be attributed to nothing more than a poor upbringing. Talking is fine but if there are no real consequences for a child's misbehaviour then he/she simply won't learn. Typically when you meet parent(s) it becomes quite evident why the kid is messed up. Monkey see - monkey do. Oh so sad but, oh so true.

December 22, 2009
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Oh for Heaven's sake...

The "article" is a brilliant piece of satire. And it's not really about "children." It's about us "Adults."

It's about Human Development. It is about Developmental Tasks.

EVERY Human Being goes through a period of Primary Narcissism.

Most people do a good job of overcoming that and hardly any of us do a perfect job of it.

The "article" and this thread is about chalenges of parenting, but really I was hoping to start a conversation about "adults who sometimes think and behave like toddlers."

I am one of those.

So is Osama Bin Laden.

The World is run by babies.

Best I can tell, inside every one of us is a big baby.

That's where I want to go with this conversation.

December 22, 2009
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It's true. Children do start out as egocentrics up until about age 8.

And some adults maintain those features.

WD.>>>" adults who sometimes think and behave like toddlers"

Isn't that what crops up occasionally in different threads here here anywaY.

Do you want to contain them all in one thread? What do you think will lure them ( or are we already HERE??LOL)

Maybe start with a role call. But ehy may balk, run away to the tree fort like kids do.

;0)

December 22, 2009
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or are we already HERE??LOL)

Maybe start with a role call.

TOO FUNNY, MsG.

I am sd- here.

December 22, 2009
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neener neener SD! I'm gonna pull yer ponytail now!

HERE! ;0)

December 22, 2009
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I love The Onion. I remember reading an article once about a woman congratulating herself for helping the less fortunate by donating to Goodwill. "It makes me happy to know that the homeless will be more comfortable this year thanks to my donation of leg warmers from the 80's."

December 22, 2009
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OH!

HERE!

I KNOW I am a little girl...I want to learn how to play!

December 22, 2009
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oh MP Grow UP!

Good to have ya here girly. Play time for the latent princess's who never got their princess outfit when they was growin up.

I dunno. I don't take a size 3 or 4 anymore.

I wonder how WD is gonna handle THIS!?

We could all just tackle him and play doctor?!

December 22, 2009
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Yippee! Let's play doctor!! Ya know, when my daughter was little, we took her to see Disney Princesses on Ice and there were many very handsome young men dressed as Prince Charmings making sure every female in the audience was handed a long-stemmed rose. I may go back on my own.

Maybe I wasn't Daddy's little princess growing up - closer to Daddy's little punching bag, but I'm certainly the Queen of my castle right now!

Don't pull SD's ponytail, MsG, or you might make her lose one of her diamond earrings! Hiya Red! Hey, I bet CraigCo'll play doctor with us!

MP

December 22, 2009
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Thanks for the laughs, guys. I really needed it!

December 23, 2009
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Would I be the doctor or the patient? By the way, what kind of doctor are we talkin about here - a shrink?

December 23, 2009
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A Gyno CC.

I hope that doesn't send ya away for another 2 months! ( or perhaps 4ever!)

December 23, 2009
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Hi MsGuided,

Okay you perhaps on the Spiritual Path of "Kill them with Comedy" now?

It is totally working for me.

I am laughing so hard I can barely spell or type. Thank you. Dear God in Heaven that is one of the best jokes I have heard this year.

I think you are correct. Only a bored, certified Gynecologist can save this thread.

He or she has to be certifiably bored of course.

December 23, 2009
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Shott WD!

It's a coping mechanism.

I can barely hold it together the last month. All the spiritual, meditative attempts at "balancing" don't pay the bills ya know?

I thought the Gyno comment may be in bad taste ( due to many here being sexually abused) but why even go there. This is Libs.

Comedy beats arguing.

I visited The Onion and THAT site is hillarious. Watched some of the videos. have you watched some? I recommend it highly! I almost forgot about TheOnion completely!( visited it years ago.)

Laughter IS natural medicine and I'm all about THAT!

I hope the Holidays treat you well.( and I'm glad u don't hold a grudge for some of my comments toward u in the past :0))

Be Well!

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Perfect! Why beat around the bush (pun intended)? That's what playing doctor is all about anyway - showing yours, seeing theirs. "Let's play gyno" simply cuts to the chase. Hmmm. I'm imagining the marketing for the little "play doctor" kit - the ones for kids that include the bandages, the stethoscope. Those should all be revised anyway to reflect specializations and current health care issues. A high-end gyno kit might include little booties for the stirrups. I had a gyno who had these and told me his wife had knitted them. Right! "Hey, buddy, while you're looking into other womens' ________, remember ME!!

very naughty mary

December 24, 2009
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VNM,

"Why beat around the bush?" 2 funny

Ya know, when a guy shaves around his mouth he has to reposition his lips from side to side to ease in the hair removal, right? So I was thinking...that must take a lot of practice for you gals to do that while shaving, no?

Ms.G,

Send me away? On the contrary. A round or two of doctor wouldn't hurt anyone, would it?

Doctoring - one of the only professions that can simply bury their mistakes.

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Whose a naughty, naughty boy for talking about shaving girl's 'muffies'?

The mind boggles. You will go to hell for that for sure. 🙂

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CC, its more bettah when the guy does it for the girl. I once dated a guy that had a special "macheen" for that.

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