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November 26, 2008
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Ohhhhhhhh, you Do make me laugh.

I don't know where to hang out, I don't know where I belong anymore.

I shouldn't be on a sex thread when I hardly ever have sex, right?

And, thanks to my lovely old cyber friend seeker, he made me think about something. He said on a thread that he "grew up" on aac and will always be connected to it, and thats how I feel.

I have learned so much and changed so much, but still have so much to learn.

I miss you too!! I just love ya to pieces and will keep my eye out for you.

I've actually been a little bit busy lately. A couple of jobs, last day of PT today (yay), going to the gym, PD was over Sunday night, and............the best news..........is this new guy. Man oh man, I'm excited about him, haven't even met yet. 6'1" LAPD sargeant ex-Marine nudist. How's that for different? Anyhow, sounds like we will finally be getting together after T Day.

I know tomorrow isn't Thanksgiving for you but just want you to know that I give thanks that you are my friend. ((((MsG))))

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November 26, 2008
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Hi SD!

can i butt in? I'm excited for you with the new one. I must admit tho..i have apprehensions..but those are my feelings about cops. but I know you'll be careful and i shoudn't be raining on your parade...you be excited..why not?

I'm not having sex either..lol..wait PD was over last night. and u didnt?

November 26, 2008
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Glittered: You can stick your cute little hiney in here anytime you like!

PD was over Sunday nite, and yeah, we did the deed. And it was great like it always is. But then he saunters off into the sunset until who knows when.

And I want more than that.

This new one is like an exec, in charge of computers for the LAPD. He's come up thru the ranks and has done well for himself. He's pretty impressive but is humble, smart, funny, I could go on and on.

But I have to be very cautiously optimistic, ya know?

He races bicycles too, so in excellent shape. He seems to be a bit shy (can you believe THAT?) but so far I have big freaking butterflies!

sd

November 26, 2008
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(((sd)))

aw! This:, posting a thread directly to me, and your warm comments just make me all teary.

I also have an attachment here ( perhaps unhealthy at times) but it replaces the therapy and no local meetings..the online meetings are a pain, with the typing.

Remember when i questioned my participation in the sex thread? I sortof told myself my contributions were in the "more" realm, since I'm basically married, not having a lot of sex. Oh well, we're just in the comfort zone i suppose.

Glad you are keeping busy and optimistic. I think it's amazing how you've stayed focused on the prize, kept yourself level dispite some setbacks ( especially the recent males who were pretty disrespectful)

...and you did the "worm" with PD this weekend. Sex without the downfalls/
lack of benefits, ahahaha!

I think where i need to work the program is within the N thread.
I really have to get a grip on my depression, which stems from my childhood, and some head injury stuff....Being around my Family isn't helping at all.

I had a huge blowout today with them. Brought up the fact nobody communicates with me, that i am tired of being frozen out and called the bad guy when i complain about How I'm treated, or won't take the abuse: emotional or physical..My mom got all upset, and used that as an excuse to not want to hear me, I replied, How would you feel if you were in my shoes? One spotlight, and I'm always in the dark? Being left alone, ignored for so many years...blatant favourtism and lack of communication in this family? My Dad told me to shut up, and when i said No, i'm not the bad guy here, I have feelings and problems, yet all i here are mothers, always her, my dead sister, your favourite daughter "marsha" who can do no wrong.....he started yelling at me to leave and never come back..."bitch".

Mom called D, cause i told her they will get their wish. Don't plan on seeing me anymore. I have nothing to offer anyway. He told her they deserve this, how he witnessed the treatment i got all these years from my sibs, them, was there when all the shit with my brother went down, while they were away in Florida. I'm not willing to play out the charade, and keep the family secrets.it's similar to incest survivors, how the family turns against them when they speak the truth.

He said a lot of things to her,called me to find out if i was ok.

I'm just a mess right now. I'm not ok.

I have to finally remove this thorn, and get beyond this round and round BS.
Once again I have D being my support and protecter...I am so lucky to have that.

There were a couple of questions bevdee asked me in the N thread..and i am struggling to answer them. I think answering them would help me get over a hump.

I kindof echo what glittered said, but I'm just too upset now to give much back, but i always wish the best for you.
Lets just see how the first meeting goes eh! he better be a sane decent man.The universe owes you at this point!

Ty for being my cyber-buddette. I love you!

November 26, 2008
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I need to chime in here too.....MsG is the greatest and I always read your post......always amusing and I have always understood where you are coming from. Yeah MsG !! Sd , I think you are great too. I also always read your words. Yeah SD too!!! Hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving!!!! I am making cupcake right now gotta go. Yeah !!! Love, horsefly

November 26, 2008
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TY ((Pegasus))
Happy ThanksGiving!
Cupcakes sound good! I could eat a whole tray right now!lol

November 26, 2008
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Ahhhhhhhhh, gosh MsG: I am so sorry you had the big blowout with your parents. But Gawd, I am so glad you let them have it!

I am GLAD you asserted yourself and spoke your feelings to them, dealing with the issues head on, and not stuffing it. You're taking care of you by doing that, and they sure aren't used to that and probably weren't prepared for it.

Its not your fault they don't get it, and most likely never will. They're certainly not receptive to looking in the mirror and looking at their contribution to the problems.

You've been making efforts to help them be the good daughter even if the crap they've been throwing your way. Thats the problem with being children of N's- we see how OTHER families are and think and try to be like them. But with our N parents- it just ain't gonna happen. Your parents don't acknowledge your efforts- never have- so of course you feel used and unappreciated.

I can't believe they said leave and never come back and called you a bitch. That has to really hurt. Talk about conflicted feelings- I am so mad at them!!!

You're right, you are so lucky that MrD not only understands but supports you. I am glad he spoke the truth to them too. Big round of applause for MrD!!!Problem is, we think that once they've been told, something with them will change. And it probably won't. Only we can change.

MsG, don't feel like you need to offer support just to get some support OK? I don't care if you just vent your heart out, period.

I hope when things settle down a bit after today you'll feel better that you got your feelings out. Its never easy to release all of that because we have been taught to "stuff it" and it isn't always good to keep it stuffed. Thats probably a feeling you're not used to- blasting away at people- but they deserved it! a person can only take so much, ya know?

When I had my big blow out with my mom (after she killed my cat) I lost control and let it ALL out, everything damn thing I had been holding inside my whole life. I didn't talk to her for 8 or 9 years after that, and when we did start talking again it was just surface things, nothing ever got resolved.

We've been born into a mold we have had no control of and its damn hard to break out of the mold. It wasn't our choice but hopefully, when we learn about the N's we can absorb it and take care of ourselves. Its just a hard and painful process and at least for me can only be done a little at a time. Its a crooked path, but we WILL get ther(((((MsG))))!!!!!

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Hi Horsefly!! I think you're pretty special yourself!! I've been reading on the other threads and you sound so good. I am so glad things are turning around for you.

Save a cupcake for moi!

Happy Thanksgiving!!

sd

November 26, 2008
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MsG, I have been reading around....while baking and I did not realize you had the blow out. Seems like the better we get and the more we learn.....it is harder to tolerant the ignorance. After my sister died 8 years ago......well it was like nobody else was alive. It was all about them (mom , sister...others). Not one considered that I lost a sister too. I stuffed and stuffed until I just could not deal with it and lost it many times.

Family use to mean alot to me but I have had to cut contact because it never changes. Of course I love them but I don't like them. I never feel good after I see them....families are suppose to be nuturing and supportive ( atleast I read that somewhere)

I know quite abit about your story and I am sorry this is going on today for you. I know how disturbing it can be. My mom is indeed a N and it just goes on and on and on.....so I have prserved myself some from her contact. I never feel good talking to any of them......always and never fails I get a side ways insult. See how easy it is for me to vent away. I think nothing of it anymore.....not really asking for answers but it feels good to vent and not lie awake thinking about it. The book that really opened my eyes up and woke me up was " People of the Lie" by Sam peck.

Thanks SD for your kind words , I think I am finally feeling better. Take Care MsG and SD too , LOve, Pegasus

November 27, 2008
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((((((((MsG))))))))

I'm sorry babe. I wish your family would accept you for who you are, make amends, and love you.

I'm glad you stood up for yourself and I'm glad D is supporting you in this. That sounds like some things to be thankful for : )

I'm happy to call you my cyberfriend. : )

so..uh..SD...uh..how exactly is a nudist also shy?

November 27, 2008
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Glittered:

Now THATS an interesting question isn't it?

So far he seems like a "gentle giant" or that he's at least been trained well. Spoke with him again today and he asked if he could call over the weekend from Vegas. Uh, Yes- siree!

Happy Thanksgiving, G-man!!

sd

November 27, 2008
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Ok..I was brought up a nudist and i was shy...am now. I've been ruined by societies hang-ups of perfection and sexuality.

But i started as a young child.
Here's my take. Nudity is without shame as a child. Cultures that embrace nudity as a part of life don't have shame.

Shame comes from behaviour, not appearance of our bodies without clothes. Children would run around nude with no hang-ups, insecurities. It is just how we are naturally.Innocence from the mental baggage that slowly mounts.

Then my contact with the outside world. The views on nudity: shame, signals sexual conduct, exhibits a loose moral person. The outside invaded this pure state of freedom and confidence. Being a child in North America, and being in the nudist lifestyle was very conflicting to me. Still is!

I was fine until i hit puberty, then i started being viewed as a sexual being. My Mother wanted me to enter a beauty contest. I would of been on TV and broadcast over to Europe. This coincided with my oldest sister influencing me with drugs and occult , and my school friends were stepping up the bullying. I then stopped going to "camp", and shame took over.

I had enough trouble in elementary school. Other kids knew i was different...I was fair, but had an all over tan, with no tan lines from a suit.It was getting in the way of my excelling on the swim team. I was the best swimmer, and the other girls were trying to knock me down.

I guess we become shy due the negative judgements, that our moral behaviour was linked to nudity.

Mixing the nudist lifestyles in our culture, involving young children just doesn't work if kids are going to regular public school. It isolates you from your peers. Man it was tough!

Nudity just means "no pretense", what you see is what you get, and if it aint perfect, it doesn't matter.Freedom to just be.

Many nudists keep it hidden, but the stronger ones will put it right out there, as a test of your worthiness.

sd, I guess you've passed the test with this man. I hope he is a true nudist, who doesn't have his sexual conduct all twisted up.

But then again, wearing clothes doesn't prevent devient behaviour much.

In my experience, there's more deviants in clothes than there was in the nudist community.

I hope he's a volleyball playin, sheep skin bicycle ridin', ( if he rides bike nude, he'll need a nice padded seat, and they usually have wooly sheepskin ones) lounge around the BBQ kind of guy, who doesn't predate on the women around him.

I wonder what Nudist "colony" he goes to?

I used to visit one in Kissimmee Florida. Very Niiiiiice!

and TY G-Mun.....I'm glad you're my cyber-buddy too.My friend!

Pegasus too...TY for being here. Enjoy your first thanksgiving in your new home.
Love you guys!

My first day of NC with family. I feel rough..but it will get better.

November 27, 2008
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MsG:

I didn't know you were a nudist. Lots of interesting layers to you my friend.

He belongs to a "resort" here in SoCal, a little east and south of here.

He was telling me that last weekend they had a dance on Saturday night which he attended, they also have tennis courts, a pool, etc. He hasn't pushed me about going but we've discussed it. I think I'd be OK with sunbathing and swimming, or at least I'd try it.

Tut wanted to go to a nudist resort and although we never went at least I had time to think about it.

I used to have a friend that was a nudist. I met her when I went to Costa Rica and we became very good friends. She was a very large woman and very uninhibited in all ways, not just the nudity but very outgoing. She and I took several vacations together and she'd usually hang out nude and it didn't bother me. I went sailing a couple of times with her "nudie" friends, once for an entire weekend to Catalina. So I have had some "exposure" (he he he, pun!!) but I've never done it. I also went to Black's Beach in San Diego a few times many years ago. I think its something I need to have on my bucket list to at least see if I like it.

So far, this guy seems pretty normal. He's a Mr Mom, has 2 kids at home, seems like a good Dad, works around the house, has a trailer that they go camping in (thats what they're doing this weekend), just an all around good guy. But ITS EARLY IN THE GAME,so of course I'm listening and processing. I know he's had stable employment and has done well, he teaches, is responsible. He's much less adventurous than I and I think thats part of why he is attracted to me. I think he has the desire to do more but was stuck in an unhappy marriage for the last 10 years and is spreading his wings.

I am pretty excited about him but I know there's lots more to know. What if he's perfect in all ways but not a good kisser? or lousy in the boudoire?? You know, all the impt stuff? ha ha

As the saying goes...we shall see......

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November 27, 2008
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As for the first day of NC with your family, it WILL get easier. I was thinking about what happened and I remember feeling exposed after my huge raging purge with my mother. After keeping all those feelings hidden for such a long time they were a part of me. After bringing them out in the open I felt sort of empty, I lost a burden I was so used to carrying around.

(Maybe since we were talking about nudity?)

Not that that erases the effect of everything they've done to you, but hopefully you'll feel better that you've lightened your load.

sd

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Hi sd
Another thing about nudists.

You don't have to be naked. Many colonies have members who wear cloths, a sari, just a shirt.

Usually dances are dress up.

In the pools usually suits aren't allowed because fibres block the filters.

It's about freedom to choose what's comfortable, and no judgements.

Sarg sounds very nice, and has real potential eh!?
We'll see! ;0)

Ok..The morning started bad.

My son was late getting his bus today again, 3rd time this week. I refused to drive him. Told him to walk or take the public transit.

He was angry, told me to F off a few times. D 's mornings are being disrupted, mine too, due to my sons BS, so he got up and told him to not disrespect me, I do everything for him..if he wants to behave the way he is, go live with Dad.... and stormed out and hasn't gone to school. I called and got the low down on his situation.

I'm so fed up..I took all his entertainment away, and left him some notes.One about anger, written by Buddha, and what makes a friend, one written by me, about the lies, manipulations he pulls, and not loving himself enough to build his skills.

I don't know if I'm doing things right here, because i have anger issues...I at least admitted that in the notes, and i need to work on it too!

Lighten my load? I need my energy to try and steer him in the right direction.
Clear my head of the family dysfunction, get out of reaction mode!

BbbbbbbbBE Well!

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MsG,

Good for you..3 times in a week isn't an oversight..it's a trend. He needs to be accountable for his own behavior. so that means he walks to school and you were right to take away his "toys."

It's hard to discipline apporpriately when we are angry, but from what you've written I don't see anything abusive coming from you.

Wow..SD is a right..a lot of layers to you..and now a nudist one. When I had my wife(at the time) and kids in st maartens we were at a nude beach. Now, i could really care less. i did have to explain to my daughters who were pointing at some old naked guys that this was a different country and it's OK in their country to be naked and to just enjoy their time at the beach. There were some topless women about, but ya know what..after a while you get used to it and it's no big deal. That being said...I must admit i would feel very self-conscious about getting naked in public. I mean I have a nice body and I'm quite comfortable being naked around a lover, but I know i'd feel odd at first. I;d be worried about looking small..lol. you see..I'm average sized when aroused, but it grows a lot to get there...it pretty much doubles. Now, I've been in plenty of locker rooms and stack up OK I guess...but it's a hang up of mine and one I'd have to work through. I'm comfortable with my own body..I just don't know how comfortable I am about a bunch of other people seeing me naked. hmmm..ya know..now I'm intrigued. I love conquering these kind of fears. I may end up doing this just to do it. I think what would help would be having a mate to do it with. ya know? because then you have that security of "well I know at least one person here thinks I'm hot." and that would allow me to relax and so let go of the concern of judgment.

sound like a plan? LOL.

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Higlitter-bug!
Right. I was a nudist.But haven't gone to the coloney in about 14 years now.
Nudists don't care about your size. These hangups are what having to wear clothes does.If you do decide to "hang out" at a coloney you'll immediately notice nobody will mirror your issues.

You'll probably be on the Tennis Court in no time flopping around..aahaha.i mean bopping the balls....ah.nevermind.
YAH! Good plan! When and where?LOL

I'll have ya a Tennis match!

I don't get angry at my son much, but believe me it's gone beyond the last straw.

The first thing he did when he got in the door was apologize and give me a hug. Then we talked.
I went to a Xmas party for a couple of hours.
Feeling much better and uplifted> it was held at one of the cities historic mansions. A Masonic Temple now. Just full of Stained Glass, Woodwork, Oil paintings, antiques, fireplaces in every room. The company and food was great. Met some new people and gained some of my sanity back.

It was warm enough to be naked in there!ha!

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MsG: I think your son is lucky to have a Mom that cares, and even though you get angry at him I think the impt thing is that you show you care and you two can talk things out.

I don't have kids and have never been a teen age boy so I can't really offer any advice. Maybe the fact that he's almost an adult has got him scared, since its almost time for him to leave the nest and be on his own. and he doesn't done anything to prepare himself for that.

I was trying to remember what it was like for me at that age. One thing was my 18th Bday the family and some friends went out for a nice dinner. During the "celebration" my mom leaned over and whispered in my ear that even tho I was 18 since I was living in their house I still had to do things their way. Big f'g celebration with mommmie dearest still clutching her control claws around my neck.

Glittered: I am sure you'd be just fine in a nudie place. Besides the ladies would be looking at your cute butt, right? That was funny about your girls pointing at the old naked men. Did you ever see that Seinfeld episode when George's girlfriend walked in on him and "it" was all drawn up after being in the pool?

Surprisingly, I had an email this morning from "Sarg"- I like that name, Glittered, think I'll use it for now. Since he's in Las Vegas I wasn't expecting anything. Its really sweet, I can tell he's been thinking about me plus he said he's trying to be like a turtle and maintain a hard shell and not show that he's really mushy and soft on the inside. HEEEEEEEEEE!. I am loving this!

sd

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sd.something related a bit here ( but just the military/nic thing)

We have a man on our Curling team. He is a Tall Manly man, former military guy,, coaches minor hockey, real type A personality.

Everyone calls him "Sarge" because he's realy competitive, yelling instructions all the time across the rink. He has to control everything. Everyone is kindof bothered by the guy, and we got put on his team( late comers)YiPPEE! ;0/
So there we are last week playing. He's the "skip", who is the team captain....but HELLO! we're all novices and play for recreation and fun.He takes it way too seriously. He's pretty mean to a few people there alos that he works with.

Anyway, he's telling me what to do, where to shoot, getting upset ( D is at the other end with him, or sweeping, and Sarg is complaining about me) So i take my shots, and i get points but it's not exactly how Sarge is instructing.

We get half way through the game, and all the points are mine. We are 5 points ahead of the other team..winning!
Sarge is still complaining to D i am not doing what I'm told..HUH? It is really HARD to control these rocks. The ice is a factor, so many things. It's only the 5th time I've played, and i am at least getting points and my roocks in the "house".
I was sweeping every time when i wasn't shooting, He just yells all the time at me.
I go to the bathroom, and he's not happy. D is getting fed up with him.Keeps telling him to relax.

We're all having fun, and this bellower is ruining the atmosphere.
He's getting on my nerves, and the other players are giving me looks, rolling their eyes at him.ugh.

So Sarge comes up to me and hit's my foot lightly three times with his broom. A person can slip and fall, really hurt themselves. That's a no-no.

My automatic reaction was, i took my broom and hit his foot once, a little hard. Big man Sarge puts all his weight on that foot, thinks I'm a joke and can't budge him, and it goes out from under him ( what? he thinks I'm weak? he can just bully me the whole game, then tap my foot like that?I could've gone down!!)

He started flailing, lost his balance and BOOM, went down hard. I tried to save him, but couldn't, or I'ld be down there too.

He was down on the ice and i could see everyone was snickering. He gets up and comments it was kindof harsh, brushes himself off, I apologize.I was really sorry.He's ok with it and goes to the other side of the rink.

So my teammates on my side, start joking, he deserved it, they just loved it. I still feel bad cause i knee jerked. The organizer told D that he'll pay me $5 for each time i take "Sarge" down.Everyone started placing bets, about me dominating Sarge..ha! He wasn't getting points either.

He stopped bossing me around after that, was embarrassed, quieted down.
I gained some popularity..what a way to get that!

Geez....

I am pretty strong and he chose the wrong target this time......NEXT!

So we play this weekend, D and i may have to give him a talk, about lightening up. We're there to have fun, relax, not get yelled at and bullied all the time.

" Sarge" what a hoot!

Yours sounds realy nice, and low key on a personal level.

There's another associate i have, I work for them occasionally, who is retired Military ( 21 years) the bill collector guy..He's a real sweetheart. Knows when and how to use his authority. I can sense he is really kind hearted and gentle, is tough only when he needs to be.
He's helped me a few times, and I'm so glad we're casual friends. His wife i know also, and he is really romantic with her. They treat their garden like a little romantic haven.
Yea. This could be good for you.
I can see why your excited.;0)

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BTW
I got a call from a large landscaper to sub for him.
He got rid of a few of his subs who weren't working out, so I've moved up the line.
His Company is in the wealthy district, and he does quality landscapes! Everything!

This could help me throughout the year, bacause he will keep me on, subbing summer work too, in the area i was going to target! YEAY!

I worked for him 2 years ago, and he's a really cool, honest guy, but I was just a filler.

Now I have set properties for the winter, AND I can use his equipment, as replacement, if mine brakes down...pretty happy about this.

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MsG: That sounds like an AWESOME opportunity. Not just getting the work, but also in a great area and working with an established and reputable contractor. That is sure to open other doors for you, more exposure in an area you already wanted to break into.

I've been fortunate to have breaks like that, and the more exposure you get, the more referrals you get. I think other contractors are the BEST people to make connections with.

Ha ha about Sarge. At $5 a pop, you could rack up some serious pocket change! I love it when things like that happen.

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Yeah, I think my Sarge is romantic. He reminds me a little of Glittered too.

He was asking me about sailing and said something about if we ever went sailing I would be in charge and he could take directions. So out of my mouth comes "You could be my cabin boy". Ooops. But he counters with "Well, maybe but if we're around other people you have to tell them I'm the Captain." Cute.

November 28, 2008
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Funny.
So he doesn't mind you dominating a bit?
(Also funny.I wrote brakes instead of breaks!DUH gotta use the google spellcheck allthetime! )

OK! Yea, glittered has a way with words don't he?hehe

So when you going to meet?ASAP!?

I mean Sarg! hehe

I got more good news today!
MrD is getting a shift change! He's switching 3 to 11 (he leaves home at 2, gets home around 12-12:30, depending on overtime) to 12noon to 9!
It's a little better!

I've been hoping for this lately, thinking about it more, and i got half of what i wanted.

It's really due to a number of new clients coming on board, and it got way too busy during the afternoon. He was getting overwhelmed for 3 hrs when he gets to work.
Not bad!

What's the saying about good things come in ___??

Is something bad gonna happen soon?LOL
I think I'll go hide now.

November 29, 2008
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LOL MsG wackin down paul bunyon. congrats on the new contact/job leads w/ the big contractor.

SD, ..wait..sarg reminds you of me..and then you said something about being him dominated by you? ummm...? lol Cute exchange between you two. Cabin boy...lol. good one SD..very flirtatious.

OK..changed my profile pic on POF and am getting swarmed by a small school of fishies. here's the thing tho...between working two jobs, having my kids every other weekend and during the week on some days, and the holidays, and hunting season...I have essentially NO TIME to give to the ladies. and I'm sort of losing track sometimes of who I'm talking to, what their name is, what stories I have and haven't told them. I gotta pair this down to a manageable number.

November 29, 2008
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Glittered: You are such a chic magnet! Of course the fishies are swarming around. There's nothing wrong with being busy and having a life of your own. They might be busy too, with Xmas coming up. But if you find someone that really interests you, you could suggest a quick get together or two til after the holidays, just to keep your foot in the door, huh? Even coffee at the mall for a shopping break, watching Xmas shoppers, something simple?

I've been getting lots of attention on Match too, I don't remember it ever being so busy like this before.

The Arab was trying to get me to spend T Day with him, and I didn't want to. I've been keeping him at arms length and I'm really not interested but he's been trying to make up for being a jerk in the beginning. My problem is once I get interested in someone (which is not that often, I'm usually ho hum)I don't want to think about anybody else.

MsG: That is terrific that MrD hours are getting changed. Hey, maybe the third good thing will be that your jerk off neighbor will pay you.

sd

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