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Hope all is good with you. Just letting you know that you are in my prayers.
Love and hugs.

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Hi Sweetie,

I miss you so! Oh, I just read your other post and guess what? I am in the same boat as you, LOL I am having so many trials, tests and tribulations. I am even planning to re-read that chapter "When God seems distant" from Rick Warren's book. Yes, faith is not easy. Let's sweetie lean on each other and continue to pray. I keep reminding myself that God is omniscient and we keep trying to project our thinking on him. This is how we become confused and lose our patience.

I pray that God He will give us that peace that passes all understanding that whenever we feel confused or lose our patience we keep remembering "Trust in the Lord with all your heart; lean not on your own understanding, in all your ways acknowledge Him and shall bring it to pass." Amen!!!

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Here are a few nuggets from Warren's book:

The Lord has hidden Himself from His people, but I trust Him and place my hope in Him. (Isaiah 8:17)

a) The deepest level of worship is praising God inspite of pain, thanking God during a trial, trusting Him when tempted, surrendering while suffering, and loving Him while He seems distant.

b) To mature your friendship, God will test it with periods of seeming separation - times when it feels as if He has abandoned you. Time where it seems like "spiritual dryness", doubt, and estrangement from God.

c) David experienced God's distance from him, yet he was called "A man after God's own heart."

d) God promised us in the Bible "I will never leave you nor forsake you."
But He did not promise us that "you will always feel My presence."

e) God admits that sometimes He hides His face from us. There are times when it feels that He is MIA, missing in action.

I pray this small excerpt will be a source of joy, comfort, and solace to you, me and every one going through dry or confusing time in their life.

(((I Love You)))

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Thank you, so good to know that even though we do not know each other that so many here understand and go through the same.

RAS, a great book on faith, just read it, and I know you read a lot..is Shiela Walsh's book, "Extraordinary Faith"..I am going to re-read it. Her testimaony really put FAITH in perspective for me...so very comforting at this time in my life.

Prayers and hugs for you...and we will get through it all, and be raised up....We are strong when we are on His shoulders...He raises us up to more than we can be....also her new song..which is awesome!!

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Thank you Ras,
This is a source of comfort and strength, thank you. We forget truths sometimes in times of trials and trouble...it is good to have friends (cyber at that!) to remind us...thanks.

June 5, 2005
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Ras: That outline has been a true source of help and reason to persevere to me before. Great info to have.

OMW: Sorry I just got your post. Your prayers are always appreciated. Good to see you again. 🙂

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Another thing worthy to note down is that confusion is scheme from the enemy of our soul.

I used to beat myself up (real codep LoL), thinking that confusion is the result of having weak faith and became perfectionist as a result. When once, I was listening to some giant Christian leaders on TV confessing that they go through this period of "Confusion" as well. I was sooooo Relieved, and my faith grew much higher and I was healed from my codep trait!!! Huge Breakthrough!!!

The Bible talks about "spiritual power of the darkness", so it is not bewildering to recognize that we have this challenge going on every morning we wake up.

In fact, the stronger in our faith we become, the more threatened our enemy becomes, and the more hateful he gets toward us.

So, there is nothing to fear, we just have to fight it off with the Word of God. That is why I memorized the Word of God so that I can recite them whenever the enemy starts to attack.

Also, we need to stay connected to those huge spiritual leaders, like Billy Graham, Charles Stanley, Joyce Meyer, Rick Warren...., b/c they are like a role model, we look up to them for wisdom, guidance, counsel. we can identify with so many challenges believers go through as well. Sometimes, I do not agree with some of their opinions - this is normal - but overall I admire most of things they teach and preach!!!

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Rasputin:

I love Joyce Meyers, but yes you are right. You should always take what they say and check it out w/ the Bible. They are human too so we need to compare what they say w/ the Bible.

Just wanted to say. My hubby and I have a saying. If we are having hard times then we know we must be goin about God's will. Coz if we are not then satan doesn't mess with us. He only comes against those goin about our Lord's work. So we take our hardships and face them w/ peace. I stand on Romans 5:1-8. You'll have to look it up, sorry, my left hand isn't cooperating. 🙂

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((((((((mamac))))))))

I'm sorry your hand is troubling you. I just had a thought and am playing devil's advocate here, not that i am for the devil... LOL

But if we take what Meyers says and check it with what the Bible says, aren't we using our own human frailities to interpret what the Bible says. I mean you can read a passage of the Bible and say it means this and this and somebody else comes along and says no it doesn't... it means that and that... then somebody else comes along and so on and so on and so on ad nauseum....

Then we see churches splitting off and forming their own churches and then some disagree with their pastors and then they split off and form their own churches based on their interpretations.... ad nauseaum...

See where I am going with this? Whose interpretation is the right one? Why is there so much division in the churches?

With all due respect to all my brothers and sisters in the LOrd, who decides who is right????

~~bonita

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Bonita:

All very good questions and points to make. The holy spirit tells us how to interpret and yes, the Bible speaks different things to different folks as to whay they need from it. I know I can read a passage and then a week later read the same passage and get something totally different from it.

As for the churches splitting... the Bible addresses that too. I know I am ashamed of how the denomination I attend is acting. I'd not listen to any of them coz the head guys just want to argue w/ each other. What does it accomplish other than division.

As for who is right and who is wrong? I have no clue. I respect each person's right to their own religion just as I would hope to have the same respect returned. Guess we'll find out who was right and who was wrong when we get to judgement day (if you believe in that).

Oh, and the above is just my opinion. Not trying to preach or sway anyone if ya'll read it as I wrote it. 🙂

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LOL... okay we may need to put disclaimers here:

:NOT TRYING TO PREACH OR SWAY DISCLAIMER:

"As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens the wits of another," says Proverbs
27:17 (NRSV). We need each other to keep a keen spiritual edge. ...

I appreciate a respectful, spirited and learned discussion to elevate one's thinking, to push us to question and thus to learning.

In my humble opinion, God doesn't ask us to check our brains at the door when we enter a church or become a Christian...

Thanks mamac, for that thought FULL reply.

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Ras
I used to beat myself up (real codep LoL), thinking that confusion is the result of having weak faith and became perfectionist as a result.

is that what im doing. tell me is being a perfectionist part of coda.
my faith is weak,
i keep reading psalm 23 and psalm 139
im trying to get that God knows me, that even though i try to hide things from people. (dont like showing my weakness to my family) they are not saved. i cant hide anything from him. even though i try.
im so confussed at the moment.
maybe i want to sort myself out all at once, or im not letting God sort them out for me.
dont it say the battle is the Lords.

those little nuggets are great, i needed to read them, ty.

Mama. Romans 5,1-8 is a good one to remember, ty for that.

luke 1- 37
For nothing is impossible with God.
Amem

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White Dove,

Being perfectionist is not spiritual. God did not mean by this to be perfect, it simply means to improve to become better Christian and Christlike.

Yes, perfectionism is coda trait. It is unhealthy, I suffered from it, cuz I was raised up in an unhealthy family just like you. LOL We have so much in common you and I!!!

The reason why you have this confusion is because you are getting closer to God and satan doesn't like it. He tries to sabotage every effort we take toward God.

Honey, if you want, I will give you the title of the book I used for my emotional healing "Finding peace for your heart" by Stormie Omartian. It is an excellent book. It covers so many spiritual and psychological aspects including confusion, perfectionism, codep....
Available on amazon.com

If you need any questions honey, do not hesitate to post. There are a good number of wise believers on this site.

(((Love & Prayers)))

June 5, 2005
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white dove,,,I also know how you feel. With God, it isn't anythign we can do, or work at, or have more faith in, or beleive more....it is all because of who He is. He loved us first, all we have to do is say "Yes". No one knows our struggles as He does.

Me the perfectionist on the outside, inside I am a mess. I have been so performance oriented as well...I allow others to judge me, and believe their judgements. Only recently I am lerning that my identity does not lie with perfectionism or my performance or who others say I am.

I also hide from my family not so much anymore though. As my sister goes to counseling, we are both learning more about our past, and how it effects us now.

But as close as I feel to God...I cannot at this point in time, lean only on Him, but I pray about it, and ask Him to help my unbelief, and my weaknesses.

I found out that at a conference I attended in Feb. that I faced God alone, it was He and I. And i could not do it, in spite of how I wanted too. I was not even comfortable with Him...I had walls up even then. WIht the busynes of my world, I do not have much time to think about that, but the walls are there, adn they are there with most I am called to trust.

It is a journey, not a destination. One day at a time. And believe that this is part of your path right now, and will be used for your good.

Also another great book, "Extraordinary Faith", by Shiela Walsh. This will help you understand who you are, who God is and why, and puts the word FAITH in the proper perspective.
Blessings, hope this helps too.

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Ras
thankyou, i will look for that book, maybe thats what i need to read right now.
Maybe thats why i cant let God fully in my life, like give Him my all.
your right though, satan is so on my back and has been for a while now. then this is good right? hes so shakin in his boots lol.
talk about confusion, i cant remember what threads i have posted on now lol, i dont post much normaly, i just read the posts.
another thing i have issues on is i dont feel worth of posting on here, but you know, thats a lie and im just seeing it now.

hey while im on a roll another question im going to throw at ya,
why do i find it hard to cry, is that also to do with being a perfectionist a sign of weakness,
for years i stopped myself from crying, not a single tear. but now the last few months im starting to cry, not a lot but they are almost always there just waiting to spill over, i will let a few drops out then i will force myself to stop.
hey have i confused you yet, im good at confussing my friend.
hey ty for yopur posts they have helped,

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On my way,
thankyou i will also look for that book.
All we have to say is yes, yes to God, yes to allow him to to work in me.
i spent years hiding things from my family still do, maybe i do try to hide from God, but i cant, He made me He knows everything about me. ouch that at times makes me feel uncomfortable,
it is between just myself and God just as you say, no one else.
thats what i need to tell myself, one day at a time, looking to far ahead scares me.
thankyou for that reminder,
i have been blessed with you and Ras and mama.

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white dove, just one more sharing thought.

For me, crying signified weakness, in a world where I have had to be strong for everyone else. And too, some feelings are just coming to the surface, they have been frozen forever.

Maybe you can related to this too. Crying is healing.

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yes im beginning to see crying is healing.
i too have numbed my feelings for many years due to something that happened, but Gods bringing back my feelings and it hard to deal with, in fact sometimes so hard i just want to to go to being numb, but if i do how can i heal, how can i begin to be healthly, God says theres a time for everything, guess this my time to start healing in a healthy way. thankyou, God bless you.

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MamaC:

"Just wanted to say. My hubby and I have a saying. If we are having hard times then we know we must be goin about God's will. Coz if we are not then satan doesn't mess with us. He only comes against those goin about our Lord's work. So we take our hardships and face them w/ peace. I stand on Romans 5:1-8. You'll have to look it up, sorry, my left hand isn't cooperating. :)"

Your hubby's saying is so cool! It is so right on. I was once ministering to a man who claimed to be agnostic. He told me that he did not believe in satan. Now this guy is working on his self-recovery and growth & he seems to have changed his mind about satan as soon as he started to feel that yes, there is God. In retrospect I tell God no wonder unsaved people are not harassed by satan, only us pious, devout believers.

A very good point we tend to take for granted! Thanks Mamac for the reminder. You are a very wise lady of God, I love you and enjoy reading your posts, they are filled with wisdom!!!

(((Hugs)))

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ok, all...going to share soemthing that I have not told too many people, but since we are talking about crying and its healing ability.

About 2 years ago, I was healing from a relationship that seem to have ripped my heart apart. My boys were visiting their dad, I had to weeks to be by myself. So I grieved the loss of this man and what he brought to my life at that time. I cried and cried and cried. I fell asleep one night crying. I was half awake and half asleep, but I remember it so clearly.

I was standing in a beautiful place, with sunshine, trees, rocks and a beautiful water fall. God said to me, "See that water fall over there? Go and stand under it and let it wash everything away." I walked over stood under it, rubbed my eyes, my face...and flet such healing. I never cried again..that year anyway!! I woke up, and knew that healing had come..it was so real. It was God saying to me...it's ok, you will be ok, and I will wash your tears away.

Don't think I'm weird, this really happened.

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On my way.
That is wonderful.its so good when God does that, you have brought tears to my eyes. i love hearing these amazing special moments, where God really touches you.
i had had that not long ago, but not for crying. He showed me my oasis as i call it, a place of peace.
On my way,
God has just used you to talk to me.
tears are pouring down my face,(which is good)
you said
It was God saying to me...it's ok, you will be ok,
Gods saying to me its ok to cry, its ok,its ok. its almost like i could hear his voice, a soft comforting voice you could hear his love.
thankyou for posting that.

The reason i stopped crying in the fisrt place is coz my ex beat on me and the verbel abuse was awful, he never hardly say anything nice to me. he wore me down for 7 years, fist it was just verbel stuff, then i started argueing back after years of just shutting up and putting up with it, well coz i answered back he started beating me, but its the verbel stuff that i didnt deal with. well i used to cry all he time back then, then he started on at me coz i would cry. to cut a long story short. i stopped crying, i vowed to never cry again, thankfully God got me out of that relationship and i turned to him, he saved me, but the crying never came back, only 2 times in the last 14 years do i remember really crying my eyes out, one when my dad passed on, even then that was hard, the other time i messed up big time and i cried out to God.
but now hes bringing back my tears, with all my other emotions, i am struggling with all this, but as you said, crying is part of healing.
On my way thankyou for making me cry.
im on the road of becoming healthy again.

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white dove,
I am glad you are feeling better today. And glad you feel as if you are moving forward. Will keep hugs and prayers going your way!

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Hi mama iv been out for a while but im back a lot of things have happend in my life and i really need to talk to you.
Sole**

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Hi Sole:

I am here for you whenever you want to talk. If you're here now, great. If not name a time but be sure to give me the time zone you are in.

(((((sole)))))

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