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September 4, 2008
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I have the greatest respect for law enforcement, and I know that they do not have an easy job. I have always taught my boys to respect them, and they have. However I have to ask, do you think law enforcement officers would lie, do you think that they ban together, do you think that court judges will rally behind them for their 'vote', do you think the Da's office wil always protect the police departments NO MATTER WHAT??

Very disappointed at this point, and cannot go into detail. But I would like to know what you think if you read this thread.

September 4, 2008
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Hi OMW...How are you?

I am in a small town..and believe that those things happen more often here, than in a big city. I think they lie..and change the stories to their advantage. If they make a mistake or do something they shouldn't have, they lie or try to cover it up.

In B's trial, on the first day I listened to his attorney and the DA discussing B's case..and his attorney was telling the DA what B wanted him to do in his defense..and they laughed about it. What do you do about it??

I could go on and on..I feel so strongly about how unfair things are handled..by the police..the DA..the judges..the whole justice system.

B was sent to a State prison so that he could get drug treatment. (county doesn't have treatment)These were the judges own words. When he applied for treatment in prison, he was denied because apparently his charges didn't warrant this. What? Drugs were the entire reason he got in any trouble at all. It just all sickens(sp) me.

I wish there was something I could do to change things. To get people the help they need and especially if they want it???

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September 4, 2008
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on my way- In my opinion they protect each other. There have been cases that have caught the media attention in regards to abuse of power. The worse violaters in my opinion is CPS. Doesnt seem fair that anyone can have that much power.

Please share your story.

September 4, 2008
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I agree, in small towns there can also be a group of old boys who ban together on everything and can not only get away with crap, but also use the law to unfairly persecute their enemies. It's outrageous and horrifying. I am originally from a big city area, but moved to one of these one-horse-towns. When my ex- husband (a native) left me I started getting pulled over all the time for no reason, I was charged with driving without a license when I simply couldn't find my license in time, and on and on. They take care of their own. It has taken a lot of work to gain some respect with enough people to keep me reasonably protected.

To answer your question, this kind of crap definitely goes on. But it doesn't go on "no matter what". Basically, it will go on as long as it's easy for people to do it. There are ways to counter these kinds of attacks and cover-ups and most of them involve making people uncomfortable. The lengths you must go to depend on the nature of the crime. I don't know what the specifics of the situation are. But a call to the press may be in order. Investigative reporters make people very uncomfortable. But it may not be an interesting story. Higher ups sometimes work, but not often. P.D's have internal affairs departments. You may threaten to call in someone from outside the area, to get some neutrality. If you are being harassed by a lawyer, you can make a complaint with the bar. The other thing to know is, that people who live this type of life, with cronies to bail them out and protect them, are usually not that smart. They never had to be. So they make lots of little mistakes that you can call them out on to other authorities. You can make a big stink.

Your other option is to ignore it, let it go, and draw on your personal inner strength, your faith in God, and wait it out. I have gone this route and gained way more personally than I ever lost.

September 4, 2008
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Hi Soulsister...wow it has been a long time! How is that little boy of your's that you used to write about? Thanks for your reply, I see unfairness in what you wrote as well.

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Something that is in progress with someone I know who is completely innocent. A man who was out of jail ONE WEEK and had pled gulity to Battery/Substantial Bodily Harm 8 days before, and has previous misdemeanors, totally and aggressively went after this other particular person as he was leaving a certain place, and the already accused felon got a broken leg, and the police force automatically took his side over this other person who has no record at all. It is a very long story, too many details, and too confidential at this time to reveal any more, but will let you know the outcome! But the police department and the DA are thick, and I am seeing so many things that are just sickening take place. It almost looks like the police are actually protecting this guy who is the felon.

soofoo, thank you for your suggestions. I have turned this over to God, and you are right that is the best I can do. I am indirectly involved and with my legal background I am emotionally in the thick of it, I don't practice anymore, became sick of it, but I have to help this particular person. I am seeing so much injustice and the lies are so obvious. So I'm in it, but not in it if that makes sense. I like th eidea of the media and IAB...that I have considered very seriously.

September 4, 2008
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And, it involves a very dear family member who really does not deserve this ...I get so angry at times at our system, so unfair. We talk about our rights, this person was not even mirandized.

September 5, 2008
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Hi OMW..Little B is doing really well. Thanks for asking. He had his first day of kindergarten today. His teacher told me he was an awesome little boy. 🙂 Made me feel proud that he is doing so well, and that I must be doing something right.

Please let us know what the outcome is on your accused friend. Why do you think the police would take the felons side?? It's usually the other way around.

September 5, 2008
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On my Way,

The answers to your questions are yes, yes, yes and YES.

I think many people who live on the "right" side of the law find it difficult to believe some of the things law enforcement officials are capable of, and in many cases do, on a regular basis.

However for those of us who have lived on the "wrong" side (not any more :)....I am here to tell you that they are capable of lying and they do lie, and much, much worse. And in my experiences, more often than not, what they do in the name of "justice" is more criminal than the original offense and/or offenders.

I have seen them beat people to the point of permanent scarring, hearing loss, teeth loss, etc. I have seen them do drugs. I have seen them drive drunk. I have seen them lie and plant evidence. I have seen them lie to cover for each other. I have seen them steal. I could go on and on and on.

I caution anyone out there....do not be so naive to think that law enforcement officials do not break the laws they swore to uphold. The can and do every single day.

September 5, 2008
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Soulsister,
Glad he is going well, wow first day of Kindergarten! I remember I cried on the first day all three of my boys began Kindergarten!

Of course you are doing something right!

September 5, 2008
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lollipop3,

Wow, wish I could get this in writing from you! (other than on AAC of course!)

Incredible, so you have actually witnessed these first hand?

This is what bothers me...they are entrenched together.

Will let you know what happens, the trial is in Nov.

Appreciate all of these replies. Apologies to any law enforcement officers who may be on this site and reading this, I don't think all of you are bad, but it seems more and more the public's consensus is that police cannot be trusted. Sad thing is that we want to trust our Police Force. One bad cop, two bad cops, ruin it for the whole force. I have known some good ones, but who knows where they are now. Very sad.

September 5, 2008
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I sometimes think that any kind of power makes some people into corrupt power hungry, revenge seeking self serving morons.
Others simply use what power they have to make the world better and don't go on much of a power trip. sometimes the smaller the pond, the more these power hungry morons act like big fishes.

September 5, 2008
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Yes.the justice system is corrupt in some cases.

I feel sorry for anyone who is falsely accused.Happens all the time.

I also believe nobody should ever be put in jail for drugs.
If drugs weren't illegal there would be no criminal element and the black Market created for easy money.

Also the illegal drug trade is attractive to corrupt law enforcers.

The lure of "easy" cash, and having the cloak of law to hide behind, is another issue with justice gone wrong.

The hypocrisy within the justice system breeds more malcontents to commit crimes.if there's no justice, why abide by the laws?

Some laws are just ridiculous. Here's a sampling and a whole stockpile within the links.
have FUN!

http://www.dumblaws.com/random-laws
My X's brother is a cop and he is one of the good ones, but he doesn't work the streets.
I also have an associate who is a freelance law enforcement worker who goes after corrupt officers. He's an internal investigator and a great guy to have on your side.
It aint all bad, but when it is, watch out!

Jail is for violent offenders, sexual predators a thieves period. MO

What "law" are Ya'll breaking?hehe

on my way..I wish you the best in your situation.

September 5, 2008
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http://www.dumblaws.com/random-laws

It is illegal to place tacks on a highway.

Vagrancy is punishable by either 30 days in prison or a $250 fine.

All motorists must honk before passing another car, bicyclist, skater, and even a skateboarder.

Roadkill may be taken home for supper.

Interracial marriages are illegal.

Dogs may not be on the beach during the summer months during the daytime or the owner may be arrested.(this one doesn't work for my doggy or me at ALL!)

A decree declares that anyone caught stealing soap must wash himself with it until it is all used up.

In front of their buildings, all businesses must have a hitching post.

It's illegal to climb trees. (HUH?)

It is against the law to read a comic book while operating a motor vehicle.

It is illegal to lie down and fall asleep with your shoes on.

You may not engage in business on Sundays, with the exception of almost every industry.

You cannot buy any alcohol after 9pm or on Sundays after noon on Sunday.

Persons may not ride a bicycle with their hands off the handlebars.

It is illegal to tickle women. ( HUH again?)

September 8, 2008
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There is corruption everywhere... some places more than others. The US is better than most other countries in that there are ways to sometimes get it stopped, but sometimes those venues aren't available in some situations.

I know of a sheriff of a small town who took that position for the sole purpose of helping to cover activities of a hate group her husband was a leader in. He may have killed his own cousin for being openly gay and never went to jail for it because of a big cover up. They say he was accidently hit by a train while walking down the tracks at night with my uncle. No one talks about it, but a close friend (who was the brother to the sheriff's husband) was afraid of him (he was a closet gay) and moved out of the South all together in fear of his life a few weeks after the accident.

But I have also seen where it is sooooo much worse in other countries. I remember having to bribe border guards in order to get out of Nicarauga, and it is so common and accepted that it was done openly. I've also had to pay "fines" in cash to local authorities in several countries where no laws were broken, other than I had blue eyes and spoke with an accent and they assumed I had money to give them.

So after experiencing that, the system in the US isn't perfect, but it is better than most of the other governments in the world today.

Still it really sucks to be involved in any from of corruption. I'd keep really good documentation of everything and report it to folks way out of the local system. Don't even let the locals know that you are concerned... then they will cover and lie and build up to defend their corruption.

Where I currently live, there are elected officials that get busted by the federal folks regularly... not the same ones. Corruption is very thick here and there is a constant stream of folks who engage in the "good ole boy" system and get caught taking bribes, covering up for family, or other wise engaging in corrupt and illegal activity. They get caught and the feds come in and take them to court and usually then jail... so if ther eis corruption in this, don't think it is hopeless... you might be able to get this person, or group of people out of the system for a while.

Good luck with it all.

Hugs, Chelonia

September 8, 2008
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Hey there :o)

I live in LA and know several people who were personally part of that whole Rampart scandal a few years back. That's corruption if there ever was such a thing. I have a few more friends that work for the sheriffs dept. and there is a personal code and understanding among them.. and all that that entails. I have some stories that would curl your toes So whatever you suspect may be, probably is. Good luck with everything.

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Thanks everyone, all of your responses have been very helpful. And, you have confirmed my suspicions, but at least if it becomes necessary, I will know how to proceed.

Thanks much!

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