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11:26 am
September 30, 2010
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She fascinates me, yet I sense a very troubled and unhealthy air about her, I have read alot bout her, years in a elite private school, cocaine addiction and her rise to stardom...
I have also heard rumors bout her being used by people in power...wondering if there is any truth to this...I tried to find my old thread on here, so sorry, i guess its gone or deleted or something...
I was just curious what you all thought of her, some of her songs are great to work out too and I like them, others are kinda of raunchy...
Who is she? Her family had money living in NYC...
Anyone care to discuss or know? THANKS!
11:59 am
September 29, 2010
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Thanks Barefoot now I got that stupid song in my head, damn. Well they are all pretty stupid, but you know.
12:06 pm
September 30, 2010
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She uses ALOT of symbolism in her shows and videos...all that are illumanti...if it were just a few, I say well maybe that is just an concidence, but it is grossly overused, attention getting it is...
Yea, I know...:) LOL!~
12:08 pm
September 29, 2010
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What is the one lalalagagaga shot me now. HA!
She is trashy and a freak show. I am sorry, but yikes a train reck. Her videos are like porn not good to have on tv at all let alone during the day when kids can see that crap
12:11 pm
September 30, 2010
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This thread is not to discuss whether or not she is trashy, we know that already, but even so, some songs are good imo of course...
I guess what my question is and I like to be taken seriously here, is she mind controlled, is there an agenda here?
Please, do not laugh at me or poke fun, this is for a study I am doing, it is for a research project, so be nice!
LOL!
12:21 pm
September 29, 2010
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I am sorry Barefoot. I do apologize. Have a good day.
12:26 pm
September 30, 2010
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no need to be sorry...I would like some input from people on here who can help me, alot of people on here seem to be very knowledgeable bout this and I would love their input!
Have a good one yourself!
1:33 pm
September 30, 2010
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I think she is extremely talented. She's different, and I'm not necessarily in to ALL of her songs, but she does make a statement. I've been around bands my whole life, and my experience has been that most lead singers have had quite a lot of drama in their lives. I think that they're more creative and passionate because of it. Music is a great outlet to express all sorts of emotion, and I think she takes full advantage of that. She's the type of artist that you either love, or you hate. But you can't deny that she is extremely creative and influential despite what her background may be.
:o)
2:05 pm
September 30, 2010
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Do you mean like Marlyn Monroe?
2:13 pm
September 30, 2010
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I have to admit, she is very pretty and talented...I just wish she was not so "raunchy"....she has talent but for whatever reason it is not used in a very good way, esp when she is a mass murderer in a video and then laughs about it, that to me is just plain sick....
2:22 pm
September 30, 2010
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what got me was that she was a high class private school prep girl who lived in NYC (who was very preppy and conservative looking) and her pic was sooo differnt from her ACT, which is it for money and fame...she just looked so normal in her pic and so young and I was floored that was her in the pic! She looks NOTHING like she did back then...was just so striking to me....
2:37 pm
September 30, 2010
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I went to a private school as well, and I it was pretty confining. I imagine that once she was out from under that strict rule, it was like being set free. Or maybe she always had a wild side? I agree, that some of the content of her videos is disturbing, but they don't necessarily define her as an artist or a person. She probably takes the make up off, and sits at home and watches the same boring sitcoms that we do, you know? Look at Ozzy Osbourn and everything that he has done in his career. That's a man who loves his family and leads a pretty normal family and home life. Same with Gene Simmons of Kiss. He has raised some very good kids despite his life as a rock star. I see what you're saying though - it's pretty intriguing how someone can pretty much morph into a totally different person. But I'd be willing to bet that she's still got a normal side too.
2:55 pm
September 30, 2010
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I agree that confining conditions that are too strict are often the cause of creating a wild side to a person, think that is only an natural response to such an confining experience but I have to disagree on her act not being who she is, cause what we do and say comes out of our minds and psyche, and that does define who we are and our character, even if it is just for show, it is from us in a sense...but I do understand there have been artists who do things for attention and lead very normal lives, that is true as well, but we still have accountablitiy for what we say and what we do and what she is doing and has done, has pretty ill effects on children...young girls who look up to her and admire her who later try to copy that, possibly hurting or destroying their lives, a parent only has so much control over their child, we can say what is right and what is wrong but with the influences of what is out there, we are fighting a losing battle sometimes...but I do agree with your other statement:)
2:58 pm
September 30, 2010
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But to get back to my orginial question for the purpose of this thread, is basically, is there more to the symoblism, if you have read on this subject at great length and have some background in this area and can grasp what I am talking bout, please comment, if you have no idea then do some research and get back to me, I do not plan on going into great detail on symbolism and its meaning on here, thanks
2:46 am
September 24, 2010
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i'm confused. your original post said u wanted to know what we thought of her. then ur first actual question was ¿who is she?. then ¿is she mind controlled n is there an agenda? then on down a little about the symbolism. could u be a little more specific? which symbols.....?
i dont think shes any trashier than other entertainers. prolly th only agenda is to sell the music.
10:02 am
September 30, 2010
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YES..lillabit you are correct but I do not want this to be a moral bashing thread, perhaps let me restate this to clear up any confusion, I would like to know what you think, is she using illumanti symbols for an agenda or is it just show? sorry for the confusion...
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