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Is it really coming???
June 23, 2010
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"I am exhausted trying to communicate here."

lol! Been there done this, there doin it! I've posted a few things more than once as well, and it just gets skimmed over. Formerly, I think peoples here are primarily interested in personal issues versus world issues. This has been good for me, as it's teaching me to pay more attention to myself and my personal life as I try to connect with people.

I read what you posted on the other thread, about the pressure being released and then water going in- this will happen it's a certainty as there will be a void to fill.

I wish I had more time to discuss all this, I thrive on it. I'm just so bogged down with work, it's all over my house now.

I for one do appreciate the info you post. Just not much time to respond.

andii

June 23, 2010
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This is the first time formerly that you posted something to me...the rest were me saying hi and being nice...

I am sorry you feel ignored here...believe me*...I have posted many places and got ignored as well..

I do not always have something to say...but I try to always do my best to include all..cause I also feel that way!

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June 23, 2010
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Formerly...
I prolly seen it but will watch it again...I used to do a lot of research on this...30 plus years...
So to me...its not a shock in the least...I know a lot. Most I would not post for personal reasons...
However I do like to talk to others who are also awake and see it...
Its interesting, its important and knowledge is power:)
Us little people in the world need to know what's up....to be informed is very important...
Russia is key here...why we are at war with other countries is a mystery to some...most buy it...from what I read lately and I will not post anything I feel uncomfortable in doing...fyi...our enemy is not who everyone thinks it is...
Totally amazed me...but I am beginning to see some very sophiscated tactics here and it really scares me!
(((((Everyone!!!)))))))))))

June 23, 2010
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I keep hearing about the end of the world. I've heard it all my life. My aunt is Mormon, and she has been preparing for some form af Armaggedon or disaster for as long as I can remember. Nuiclear bomb, Y2K. You should see her storage areas. areaS. I bet there's no one that can do as many things with dried lentils as her. But they keep changing the dates.

You know? I have never feared or dreaded the end of the world, or death. I have feared having a stroke and living that half-in, half-out kind of life I watched my Nana live. I dread the thought of radiation and the sickness that people have to endure before they die, or the slow death of living in an ohterwise contaminated world.. I would not like a Bataan death march. But death? Not afraid. It's over, fini.

What do you reckon people are afraid of with the literal end of the world? afterlife? judgement?

So, I'm wondering if the end of the world prediction is like a big bang end of the world, or just the end of the world as we know it? If it's the end of the world as we know it, what's the fear? The end of a comfort zone? That we can't survive any other way than the one we know right now?

Yeah, that's a little scarier. I don't think I would be ready for a world without technology. I sure wouldn't have a job. I've tried to learn some basics - the stuff my Gramma did as a young bride. Like I said, I been a learnin to make soap!! I been hangin my clothes to dry. I made my own sausage from a wild hog the WranglerButt shot and killed. I know how to make bread from scratch, and bake it in an earthen oven, a hole dug in the side of a hill. I can fry anythang!!! I need to learn to make my own pasta and grind my own corn. Tortillas. Cornbread. Staples of the south and southwest. But !!! What if the world as we know it comes to an end and there is no internet? No tv?

That scares the bejaysus outta me. For entertainment, I will have to start reading books and having real conversations again. yikes. Will we all sit around and just reminisce about the good old days? The best tv shows we ever ever saw? Quelle horreur.

June 23, 2010
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I think it will happen very soon...sooner than I expected...it bothers me a lot...who is doing this and why...its matters a lot to me...
Its the end of civilization.
That is a big deal to me!

June 23, 2010
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So, it's the end of the world as we know it. Civilisation? What does that mean to you?

June 23, 2010
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Civilisation means a high level of cultural and techological development, cultural characteristic of a particular time or place. (I checked Webster) Civlisation can also mean a refiniment of thought manners, taste.

I think of it as a society with laws and social and religious mores that govern our behaviour. a quick check to Wiki shows society means " A "society" is an abstraction of a collection of relationships between individuals, usually including distinctive cultural, economic, or political properties and vary greatly in complexity and scope."

By this definition, homeless winos living under a viaduct, have formed a society. If they designate someone their leader, always turning to one or two for advice, etc., adhere to rules within the society - for instance that everyone contribute to the community in some way or another. e.g. , have little jobs, like somone dumpster dives each day, some else collects the firewood, somone cuts it up, someone starts the fire, someone cleans the ashes from the dead fire, someone pickes up the bottles, etc etc. Even to an unspoken agreement about seating arrangements around the fire, if they get along well enough to continue to cohabitate, not kill each other - then they are forming a small civilisation.

Webster's definition of advanced technology echoes my concept of the world as we know it. As we americans know it. There are civisations in third world countries that do not benefit from the level of technology that we do, but are civilisations, nonetheless. They are also societies within those civilasations.

There are people that live in the Grand Canyon, along with the native tribes. They don't even have radio. There are some that do not consider that civilsation. IT is considered living outside civilsation, because there are none of the amenities that we enjoy. I imagine they would get by better than I would, if the world as I know it ever ceased.

June 24, 2010
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I think what really opened my eyes to a post apocalyptic world was reading The Stand by King when I was 19. The apocalypse in this case being a lethal flu that few were immune to. I had nightmares about the isolation and feelings of hopelessness he described.

I have made my own sausage - woohoo-but I bought the seasonings at the Supercenter. I ordered one of them online. I made one with the Cuisinart, and one with an antique meat grinder, to see if they tasted different. (Everyone swore the hand grinded one was better). I did all this in my heated, electrically lit kitchen, with the television on. I didn't want to miss Grey's Anatomy. We ate it outside one night with the stereo plugged in, and the lights on over the arbor. I made butter one day, but I didn't milk the cow or skim the cream. I do know how, but the store was right there!!!

In The Stand, after everyone with the superflu died, there were stores, but they were locked until someone broke a window and climbed in. The meat, milk and cheese was spoiled, of course, because there was no electricity. They had to be careful of what they picked to eat, or they could die. They had to figure out how to vent into the gas pumps, so they could travel by car or cycles. Luckily, they could get lighters (to start fires) from the stores. Clothes were no problem - there for the taking. When they went to different town, they picked a house they liked, removed the dead bodies, and moved in. He touched on how addicts and alcoholics were affected by the world as they knew it stopping. Made you wonder what would happen to people when there were no longer any drugs manufactured. (insulin, metformin for diabetics, xanax for anxiety.....) Free alcohol sitting in stores, no heroin coming across the border. He had one character hooked on prescription pain killers, trying to walk out of NYC, because the streets were jammed with cars with drivers dead at the wheel. She intentionally overdosed.

That book really made me think. What would I do? The economy freaks me out. There are people here that are getting their trailers repossessed, and living in their steel buildings - workshops. The people across the road have never had power. They have a back up generator, but they rarely use it. I know where my candles and lighters are, but I don't have a back-up generator. There's a creek that runs through WranglerButt's property, so, without electricity, that's a way to keep things cool for a day or so, in the six months of summer we have here. You would have to have watertight containers. I spose it could do for bathing, should running water ever become an issue. There are fish in it, and in the lake a couple miles from his house. There's plenty of game that runs through it. I should get a copy of a recipe for hasenpfeffer and squirrel stew before there is no internet. Learn how to tan hides, so I could barter leather - snakeskin belts.....

The thrust of The Stand was that without all the external clutter of the world as we know it - the clutter of noise, traffic in the air, on the streets, radio waves, hum and physical effects of electricity, the survivors became more psychic. Their minds were less cluttered, and they were able to telepathically communicate over many miles. Their collective consciousness was heightened. I wonder if it's really like that.

Oh yeah and another thrust was that good (energy) always wins.

But even some of the good people didn't make it. The strong survive and the weak are winnowed out.

June 24, 2010
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the Stand- by Stephen King. One of the best books I've ever read! Many of the good people didn't make it because they were part of a whole. It was not an individual battle as we often make life and existence out to be.

Dang it bevdee, you've got that song running through my head

"It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine!"

Might not feel so great pretty soon, though......

June 24, 2010
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Yes, we are part of a whole. And now, I'm thinking of that song - PEOPle.... needing PEOPLE.

Hahaha, that's more irritating and harder to get out of your head than your song.

Toodles!!

June 30, 2010
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I think that it is coming. Maybe I thought that before-- like on (9/11) but I don't remember.

There are videos about it on youtube. But I see it from a different perspective than the fictional King book. If that is a movie, I will have to see it. It sounds interesting.

I think that I will be one of the ones who doesn't make it. I am too defeated, and I don't have a reason to hang on and fight anymore. I know that God has more in store, and I would rather just go there.

July 1, 2010
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I say yeah, it's definitely coming. I won't be one of the ones who make it either. I'm not interested in making it though. I think it will be horrible. I'd rather rapidly embark on the true new frontier myself.

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July 1, 2010
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((((andii))))

June 9, 2010
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Today, a friend of mine told me that the world is going to end
may 21, 2011.......How you feel about this???

June 9, 2010
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Poetry- One thing is for sure no one is going to make it out of
this world alive. We are all going to die, sooner or later. All we
have is the moment. I like to live each second as if it was my
last.

June 9, 2010
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I
believe it will end very soon...when excatly...not sure...but I
whole heartly believe within the next 20 yrs or
sooner...

June 9, 2010
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I
think it might december 21st 2012

June 9, 2010
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Poetry, why has your friend settled on this date?

June 10, 2010
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I
know that 2012 is what the mayan calendar is predicting....I am
curious as to why 2011? I never heard that date before...please do
tell! Hiya andii!

June 10, 2010
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Hiya
BFgirl!

The Hopi predicted
this too, and Nostradamus, and I think the Bible

June 11, 2010
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I
don't think that the world itslef will end, but humans might not
survive.

For many years I
was tormented with what people are doing to this earth and then a
picture popped into my head about a big hairy dog shaking its fur
when its wet or full of fleas, and that brought me some
peace.

Then oddly enough,
some years later in reading a book by Sun Bear, I think it
was.....that same exact image was shared by the author!

Symbolizing the
big dog as the earth and the fleas/water as humans being shaken
off.

Humans might not
survive....but Earth Rules is my thinking and belief ~

(Incidentally, the
History channel used to have a series entitled: "Life After People"
which I found really interesting.)

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my
thoughts .....i think it might end as we know it. but i dont think
that neccessarily means people will die. perhaps it will be a new
beginning. a completely new way.

June 11, 2010
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Tbt...I seen that on the history channel too...I hate to say it
but the world would be better off without us...all we do is poison
it and corrupt each other over who is god and money....and look
where it got us...when god created humans...I'd he did...I am sure
he is kicking himself right now and is very sorry about
it!

June 11, 2010
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Too
many people have the bomb...someone somewhere will set it off and
then hide under the ground...let them...if that happens I don't
want to come back up from the earth to see all the devastation...I
rather be dead than see that kind of destruction...but evil people
would have no problem with that...I would not want to be in that
kind of world anyhow.......

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We
may not need the bomb. Our distruction of the earth could come from
the environmental changes. I was just reading about the the climate
change that could come from the oil spill, if they can't stop it.
They mentioned that the gulf streem is the only thing keeping
England from becoming a frozen tundra. There could be many more
effects. I just learned that more than half of our oxygen comes
from sea life, which we are systematically distroying, like we are
the plant ecosystems. Then there is the idea that we could bomb the
oil spill, they talked about the damage that could be done there as
well. I think it will be a series of chain reaction events that we
are causing, but will never fully claim.

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