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I need to be a Bigot and vent for a minute.
November 15, 2003
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I am so sick of these Mexicans coming across the border to our yard sales and trying to rip us off. I mean come on. They ask about a price for stuff then put it down and ask for prices for other stuff, they give you the money for the second things they asked about then they pick up the first pile along with the second and try to leave with it all. Do they think we are stupid? First of all it is a damn yard sale, and second my prices are small anyway. Then they try to get you to sell them something really nice for $0.25. They aggravate me. They try to sepak to you in spanish too.

November 15, 2003
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And what about those damn Belgians. What with their big ass waffles and those shit-tastin' brussel sprouts.

November 15, 2003
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Hi Gypsy,

I'm Hispanic, but don't worry... no offense taken - let me tell you why. It makes me angry that they come here (many illegally) and make no attempt at all to even learn the language. However, of course that is not only Mexican's but others too.

I lived in Quebec for a while, where although English is spoken, French is the pre-dominant language. I learned how to speak French. My accent was horrible and I know I struggled, but at least I tried. To this day my kids tease me about my accent (plus I have been back in the US for 15 years) - but I'm proud of the fact that I did try, and managed o.k. for the time I lived there.

Also, when they tried changing the laws about 20 years ago in Los Angeles about how the schools had to test kids in "their native language" - my Dad who did not learn to speak English until he was about nine or ten was the LOUDEST opponent. He said, if people choose to live here, then they need to choose to speak the language.

Just venting along with you.

Z.

November 15, 2003
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My S.O. is Hispanic, and also my kids are half. The mexicans here are all offended if you speak spanish with a "white" accent, I just tell them that they all speak English with a Mexican accent and we don't get offended about that.

I live pretty close to the border here and we always get Mexican National coming through town towing like four cars behind a minivan.

Silence, I have never met a belgian. Their waffels are a bit sweet. Brussel sprouts aren't so bad if you put salt on them. My fave is asapargus though.

November 15, 2003
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Well. Not to start jumping on the bandwagon... usually I don't consider race at all when talking to or about people. But my jerk friend is hispanic. and my whipped friend is jewish.

Me. I'm a European mutt with some native american. No real nationality. Or just "white," to simplify.

November 16, 2003
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LOL, I've got everything from Alaskan Indian, to Russian, to Irish, to God knows what.

November 16, 2003
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See. It's just eaiser to call yourself a mutt

November 16, 2003
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¡Usted personas necesitan obtener una vida!

November 16, 2003
1:34 am
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Just kidding.

November 16, 2003
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my spanish is too rusty to translate that anyway.

November 16, 2003
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It is no big deal. It only means, "Vous les gens ont besoin de recevoir une femme!"

November 16, 2003
1:39 am
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never had french.

November 16, 2003
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Me either.
How about Chinese?

November 16, 2003
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if you can get the characters to show up on this board... sure. I can't read it though. I only took spanish in high school and my english isn't that great either.

November 16, 2003
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How are you doing this morning, Silence?

November 16, 2003
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I'm OK. Just a little bored. nothing good on TV tonight.

November 16, 2003
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What do you enjoy watching?

November 16, 2003
1:51 am
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I watch survivor, csi, south park, 24. after work there's only infomercials and soft core porn. Those are just as good.

November 16, 2003
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It sounds like you have been at this late night work a while.

November 16, 2003
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since July. I've always had an insomnia problem though. It's just that now I have a reason to be up at night all the time.

November 16, 2003
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Hey everyone! I am an old fat Creole-African American-Hispanic nudist lesbian in a wheelchair! I sponge off the government and pick my nose in public!

November 16, 2003
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nudist, huh? I've always wanted to go to a nude beach, but I'm afraid they'd throw me out for being under-sized.

November 17, 2003
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i have catfish and dog blood in me. i hate americans too.

what a stupid thread. i am just venting. hahahahahaah

November 17, 2003
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I'm Euro-Native North American. I don't hate anyone for color, but I'll tell you as a kid I was picked on by some African-Americans who hated me I think for being white.

November 17, 2003
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What the fuck is going on here?

You know, on my birth certificate, where it asks for the race of my mother it says "yellow".

Since when is yellow a race? Since when is white a race? Since when is red a race? Since when is black a race? Since when is brown a race? These are COLORS. They have nothing to do with heritage, culture, tradition, or ethnicity.

I feel sad that conditions in Mexico are so terrible that people will risk their very lives to try to come to America--and for what? Racism. Pay "under the table", well below minimum wage. Judgment. Hate. Pity. Disrespect. But if you are "white", well, come on over! Do the same things the Mexicans do but it's okay because you are WHITE!

I am Japanese American, born and raised in little Silver City New Mexico. I identify strongly with the Mexican culture because I have been surrounded by it all of my life. The Mexican culture it rich in its devotion to family. The Mexican language is a beautiful language, and part of their culture. Why should we demand that they abandon this aspect of their identity? Certainly in order to survive in America one will eventually have to learn to navigate through the English language. It takes time. Shit. Look at some of the things we all write here. We aren't always that good at navigating through it and most of us have English as our primary language!

Do we, as Americans have any concept of how a quarter compares to a peso? To us, a quarter is nothing. It's half a soda. No big whoop. To a Mexican, a quarter is a lot of money. For one person, it's a few days worth of groceries. Is it "their" fault that economically Mexico is a disaster? I don't think so. It is all about their government. Most Mexicans are too busy trying to get from one day to the next to pay any attention to politics and that's just where their government wants them. It's just where our government has most of us. And then the pecking order sets in.

Then, let us consider the illegal drug trade, how much money we invest it it, and where that money goes... Ouch!

And how many people who live near the border will gladly go over to Juarez or Palomas to purchase alcohol, prescription medications, contact lenses, and other goods because they are cheaper there than here? My, don't we appreciate the Mexicans then...

I love the Mexican culture as much as I love the cultures of my own heritage.

Arwen

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