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How do you put God First?
April 27, 2005
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i hope this doesnt make me a bad person but i am not sure if i truly believe anymore

April 27, 2005
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If this is too preachy, I'm sorry, some things became clearer today and I may be overreacting

sewuinque
Of course you’re so different! That’s what makes you unique. You’re quite right that God lives within us, and He comes when we ask him….a paradox to be sure, eh? The consideration of how to pray, be it as Christ taught us in the Lord’s Prayer, or as in Nehemiah as described by Rick Warren, is simply a framework for some of us mortal beings to focus on our conversation with Him.

The phrase that caught my eye is your wondering if prayer is the key or if it encompasses other things as Christians, as believers? I can only say that I believe that Faith leads to works, and prayer and meditation on the Word builds faith.

on my way
...a fine line
Hebrews 5:7
During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.

Philippians 4:6
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.

April 27, 2005
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Hi On My Way,

I'm not a religious person, nor have I ever been, However, it was suggested to me, no so long ago, that even if you don't believe, try just pretending you do. I was also told not to ask God (or whoever your Higher Power is) for specific things because He cannot do that for you. Instead ask for His guidence and the strength and will to carry that out.

Well, I have to tell you, being the non believer that I am, I was skeptical but decided to try anyway. Truth be told, my life is not perfect, but I am able to cope better and have learned through prayer that I cannot do it alone. Some how I found the strentgh to reach out for help and slowly but surely I'm getting there.

I hope this helped

April 28, 2005
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On my way, God knows exactly the place we are at in every moment of our lives. He doesn't expected a "perfect" prayer. He wants us to persevere, to identify the area in need of work, and to continue to submit our will to His. His "job" so to speak, is the process of transformation. Ours, the act of yeilding to Him. I began to pray differently when I realized my prayers were much like yours. I started by writing a short list of things that I was truly grateful for in my life. From healthy kids, to enough to eat, to my sanity restored and lots of other goodies too. THen I just chose a couple to start thanking him for. I tried to say more than "Thank you for the house I live in God" and told him a few of the things I especially like about this house. Now, he already knows this, of course, as he does all things, but he longs to hear from us in our own words what we have to say. It takes some practice and persistence to get to a place where thanking and praising God become more "comfortable", but give it time and it will.
Desert Moon,
Shortly before a major breakthrough and restoration of my lost or damaged relationship with the Lord I went through this period of feeling I was a fake. No heart behind the knowledge. It sounds like you may be there, or someplace close to it. For me, my emotions had ruled my life so long, and lead me so many places that I would have been better off to stay out of... I "dropped out" on God over and over when I didn't "feel" him. Mine was an experience of confessing straight head knowledge of the Lord and his character, and fighting for all I was worth not to feel like a hypocrite. I had to learn the difference between truth, and fact versus my emotional response to those facts. Does that make any sense? To me, without a wave of emotion, nothing seemed true or real. I didn't trust the facts to still be fact with out it. So I began my slow journey back to the Lord by confessing what felt like hollow words, mixed with a lot of very real confusion, and requst after request for God to confirm his presence to me. Talk about selfish! I literally demanded that God show Himself to me. But you know what? When I began to trust the facts, God allowed me a little bit of the emotion to encourage me along. And he showed Himself through others, and in little instances that couldn't be anything but Him. I still haven't arrived with the whole feeling vs. fact battle, or with the self centered prayer, but I persevere and I believe God is ok with the progress I make. How could he not be? He knows me better than I know myself and He chooses to persevere with me! Wow! He chose me, know what I mean?
Anyway, thats my thoughts.

April 28, 2005
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voice,

what you say is very true about where I am at. I just had a long talk with my friend about going to service on Sunday, somewhere, some church, but expressed my hurt that I would not go in the right frame of mind, and he said never mind that just go, its ok to feel uncomfortable, and I started crying and saying all the years I went to church I never felt I belonged or felt what others said they felt. Why do i get so emotional talking about just going to church? I never felt God has abandoned me just htat he won't let me get close to him because he knows I cant let go of my selfish heart. It's like I want to go and find him but am afraid that no matter what I do I wont find him nor will he come to me, no matter what I do. I am afraid I wont find god, I am afriad I wont find myself. And then people just say, you have to let go. How?

April 28, 2005
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V in the W,
I feel this way exactly. I suppose God is showing me, out of love for me...This is what I want to clean up next..just follow and trust my lead...which is a struggle for me in any relationship..I want to, but do not always TRUST it.

I guess I know that God knows our needs....one thing I struggle with is that I am made not to be alone, as he made Adam & Eve. I am divorced, only once, and at times, I am at a loss. Very independent, but I need the comfort of having someone there for me...I almost feel like God is saying,,,enjoy the comfort of me first, then I will provide someone for you. However this goes along with my childhood thougth process of "just be good enough and you will get waht you want"...the performance thing.

I know that God comforts me when no one else can, I know that He is there for me when no one else is, adn this is one thing I feel sefish about:
God you should be first/but you created me/people to need and not be alone...which seems like a contradiction. Confusing for me. HAve all of the head knowledge but, it is almost as if I do not put God first in ALL things, then I will not receive those prayers that I seek answers too.
You all, any thoughts are appreciated. This thread is beautiful so far, as I said I am in awe. thx.

April 30, 2005
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How do I put god first? To believe good always prevail in the end. I am helpless without God. To what heals and shine in this day. To acknowledge His works..... truth spirit, courage for this day, my love to know His will in this time... His love, faith, and hope for me... to this day... boost His greatness, in unity, grace, and freewill and with the gifts He gives to each of us... gratitude and thankfulness of this life I share His love with words and prayers... eternal life with timeless time... Thank you all to this world we have...

April 30, 2005
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Putting God first to me means also that we will use his word to guide our steps and that we will not make anyone else our God. It means that our relationship w/the man above is the most important relationship we should year to have. It means that we will trust in him b/c he wants the best for us even when what we want is not necessarily what we get, at the end it has to be for the best...Thanks for this thread!!

April 30, 2005
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Putting God first...Spending time with Him in prayer and meditation, and reading His word. Acknowledging Him in all that is done. Seeking His will, not our own. Making decisions that are in accordance to His will. We find His will in His word and in our spirit. Not putting anything before Him, job, people, children etc. If there is anything or anyone that we are obsessing over, or prioritizing over Him, that thing becomes first in our life and this is idol worship. When and if we fall short, we repent quickly, and correct ourselves.

April 30, 2005
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I promised myself I would attend service on Sunday, even if I dont get anything out of it, and I will pray about it beforehand for God to open my mind to whatever may come. This has been hard for me, and putting God first doesnt have anything with going to church, but what is in your spirit to let him lead you. But attending a worship service puts you in the company of others who are there to serve and worship him, so its a place to start.

May 3, 2005
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Desert Moon-
Tell God your concerns. I am sure He has plans for you and HE will know how to get through to you. He may use someone you know or something all together different. I think His hand may be guiding this thread. There was a lot of very good information tonight.

kathygy-when you pray for God's guidance do you pray expecting to get an answer? Maybe after you read this thread and refer back to its suggestive readings you may have a better understanding of what God EXPECTS from you(us). Then again maybe not. Everyone has their own beliefs that's what makes us unique.

May 3, 2005
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I got so mad at "40 Days.." I threw it in the trash. There are so many books, so many sermons, so many exortations to let go of control, and to allow God to do it... Seek God's will, die to self. I believe these are true and good, but incomplete.
I took these to heart for years, and felt I should smother any desire that rose up in me, and do the selfless thing. I tried to be less and less, assuming that then God could be God. I tried to not take up any space, to breath less air, to want nothing. When God didn't show up in this noble martyrdom, I became suicidal. Like I was going on a life-strike until He did something.
My breakthrough came when I realized how childish I was being. That God could rescue me at any time, but that He also knew that I had the ability to open my own cage, and walk out myself, because He had made a way. I was a blank canvas, insisting that only God could paint on my life. That seemed SO spiritual. What I learned was that God had put a pallette of gorgeous colors in my hand and a brush, and He wanted me to make a mark. So I made a bold stroke, and waited for God's condemning lightning bolt to strike me dead. Instead, I 'heard' his applause.
I am so grateful He didn't honor my "selflessness." That He didn't reach in and do the painting for me. I wonder if that is the experience of many depressed Christians. Desire is thwarted by religion, and sated by relationship with God.

For RW:
"We both believe and disbelieve an hundred times an hour, which keeps believing nimble. ==Emily Dickinson

May 3, 2005
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I have been contemplating about this question for you Omw for days. The answer is simple: Tell God that you want Him to be # 1 in your life! Peiod. Leave the rest to HIM!!!!

God disciplines us, sometimes we are unaware of it. Trust HIM, as long as you told HIM what you want, He can see your heart, that you are being sincere and genuine in your love, not just pretending to love/want HIM.
The Bible says that "people look at our face; but God can see our heart's contents." Do Not forget that!

I have read some of the posts here, they are Excellent, full of wisdom & insight.

Have a great day sweetie, I will be praying for you about this.

(((HUGS & PRAYERS)))

May 3, 2005
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Shame on me,

I do try to tell God my concerns, and try to leave it to him, but it's always been hard for me to pray. I did go to service Sunday and want to continue, but I am the type that will stay in the background as I have difficulty talking to people I don't know, or when in an unfamiliar environment, or feel like i "don't belong" there. The church I went to is big enough so people won't really notice me. (pretty sad, huh?)

I have had many people tell me about God's plans for me, and there were times I thought the path was very clear, only to find out it was not the direction intended for me.

fcdlfp (what does that stand for?)

I remember the joke about God trying to help those in need: It goes something like this, A man was caught on the roof of his house in a flood and prayed for God to rescue him. A man in a raft came by and asked if he needed help. The man said, No God will rescue me. This happen again, with a boat, then a helicopter, and each time the man told his would-be rescuers that God was going to save him. Well the water came up and the poor man drown. Up in heaven the confused man asked God why he hadn't rescued him and God replied "what do you think the raft, boat and helicopter was for?"

Sometimes someone has to wake up and see opportunities for what they are and not wait for some earth shattering event. In some ways, facdlfp I am where you were, and am trying to recognize God-given opportunities when they come, and it's up to me what I do with them.

May 3, 2005
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Desert Moon- Going to service on Sunday was a start. I think you are going to be ok. I think the little joke was cute. Sometimes we do look for miracle answers when they are right in front of our face. We just think it is so simple it couldn't be
God's answer. Good Luck

May 5, 2005
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Forgiven
Accepted
Complete
Deeply
Loved
Fully
Pleasing

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May 5, 2005
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thanks all for the insight, RAS, how simple it really is, I get caught up in the DO..codependency part, rahter than the simple part. I lose my focus on what is important, whcn I get too involved in the DO.

Someone started a thread here called,
DO-DEPENDENCY...it was helpful;.

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