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Historic/Monumental Night for US Democrats....
August 28, 2008
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...and for the US at large!

Tonight we will hear the first African-American accept the nomination for President for the Democratic Party!

WOW!

Just looking at that statement gives me chill bumps!!!!!!!

(Kind of choked up now.....)

Adversity CAN BE OVERCOME!!!!!!!!!!

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August 29, 2008
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I agree TBT, this is a very important day in history.

I got to see the last 1/2 of Barack Obama's acceptance speech online. I thought it was very well done.

It was really neat how this speech coincided with the 45th annivesary of Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech.

45 years ago today Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. says

"Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice...

One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination...

This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning...

Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood...

We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until "justice rolls down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream."..."

And just 45 years later to this day Mr. Obama was elected democratic nomination for president. I hope the Dr. King's dreams continue to be realized in the coming years.

"I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."...

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character..."

Barack should be allowed to be voted for or against, not as a black man, but as a man. I hope he is seen for his policies/abilities/potential and not his skin color.

But irregardless of what individuals decided to use as their voting criteria. The fact that he is a candidate shows progress over the past 45 years that will hopefully continue through all of our life times.

Thanks for posting about this 🙂

August 29, 2008
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You know I dont feel comfortable about Biden. I felt he's too emotional and possibly has an anger problem, maybe too passionate for his own good. Its going to be interesting.

August 30, 2008
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yay for historical things happening.

The next U.S. President is John McCain.

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August 30, 2008
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McCain will lose 40-60, thats my bet.

August 31, 2008
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See what's so wrong with the system currently? McCain is able to choose this Sarah Palin and the choice is being criticised by presidential scholars

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/13001

"Scholars question Palin credentials"

How can we see such reckless stupid behavior and tolerate it? Shouldnt WE the people be making the choice of a VP candidate?

The better system would let people say, choose top 10 VP candidates for each person and then they'd choose one of them in the end, or something like that.

Whatever it is but what we have right now is just stupid, basically. He could have chosen someone in jail for that matter and would still have gotten away with it.

August 31, 2008
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I think McCain has dramatically lowered his chances of being elected by selecting Sarah Palin. She has very little experience as it is, nothing on the scale to prepare her for the office of VP, and that combined with McCains age, looking at her as a possible President if something should happen? THAT is what makes his choice irresponsible in my opinion.

There are other views of hers that I don't like but that is the big issue for me.

I feel like that forces me to vote for Obama, and I don't like that.

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August 31, 2008
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Right now Obama's in check. He should have chosen Hillary to run on his ticket. McCain was lying in wait for that mistake.

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August 31, 2008
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Nah. Hillary is not a strong woman. I cant understand why some people are not able to see this.

August 31, 2008
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Some of the pundits think Hillary is too strong of a woman, and Obama was afraid to have her down the hall from him as a "subordinate".

August 31, 2008
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No she's not, she's a people pleaser. She doesnt even know if she really wanted to be president and she doesnt have confidence in her ability to lead. I can tell all this. There's no way for me to prove this but this its true.

I'll tell you of a strong woman. Maybe you're thinking I'm a woman hater or something. There's lots of them, Oprah Winfrey, Barbara Walters, these women have confidence in themselves. A person has to have confidence in themselves and a strong personality in order to lead.

Seeing her aura, you think Hillary has strong character and confidence?

August 31, 2008
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Yup those are wrong views. Why would Obama be afraid to have her as a subordinate?

I could be afraid of hiring someoneas a sub ordinate if I knew they cant stand on their own and will just bring trouble later. Thats the way to look at it. I dont know what those pundits were thinking.

August 31, 2008
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And ofcourse I'm not saying political skills and knowledge are of no importance. I'm saying that self-confidence comes first. If you have political skills but no confidence, you might do OK as a writer for a newspaper but you need confidence and a very strong unshakeable belief in yourself to be a leader. Hillary is not this.

August 31, 2008
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Well, I certainly know her husband doesn't have strong character and it gave me shivers to think he could possibly be anywhere near the White House again.

Not that I'm saying I was pro- Hillary, but she does have great knowledge and experience and I feel she was more qualified for office than Sarah. But Hillary's personality was a little scary....

August 31, 2008
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If you're talking about him being a cheater and having sex with the intern, that doesnt relate to his character being weak, but thats not the point. I'll ask you this:

If you had two choices, would you choose Bush or Bill Clinton?

Why's Hillary Clinton scary?

Now, also: if you take away Hillary's age and the fact that she rode on her husband's position of power and take away everything that she did due to this, you'll see she's no special than Sarah Palin.

If you take away the "Clinton" from Hillary, you're left with nothing. She knows this.

August 31, 2008
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Bill Clinton's cheating is not the subject here. A person could make a mistake and then be over it. The important thing is to be true to ourselves, be genuine and not be afraid of people and not be a people pleaser. But forget all this, his cheating is not the topic here.

August 31, 2008
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Hillary is "scary" because she doesnt have self-confidence. She cant get the outside world to feel assured. Lets see what you say about why she's scary.

August 31, 2008
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I agree that Hillary rode on her husband's position of power and gleaned all she could from it to further her own ambition. So that in itself, would add to your opinion that she lacks self confidance because she didn't get all of her notoriety on her own merits.

On a personal level, she put up with a husband who cheated (was quite publically exposed), and I think she forgave because of her political ambition. He put personal needs above his duty and the office that he held.

So as far as her husband's cheating not being the issue, its part of her personal history. Again, very publically too. If she didn't need him so badly for her political career, what would she have done otherwise?

August 31, 2008
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She'd have divorced him right away, yea.

Good points, you said it right. She's a nobody, without the "Clinton" name. She's zero, a zilch.

Its amazing there are so many people who support her still and think highly of her, I mean are they dumb or something. Cant they see this woman for what she is? Instead of falling for the Clinton Hoopla hoo?

I wonder how having prespectives like this reflects on the person themselves. There's probably 20% people who think Hillary should be president. They're probably dumb then or something? I dont know. Its kinda rude to say that but I dont see any other conclusion.

August 31, 2008
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Hillary is a United States Senator with her own political track record. To say she is nothing without her husband's name doesn't even make sense.

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August 31, 2008
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Guest simply wants attention. If I started a thread about handicapped people, he'd probably claim some of them were just in it for the parking spaces. "I mean, I bet some of them could walk if they really wanted to!"

August 31, 2008
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Oh come on Mary. come onnn, lol.

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What I meant is, she is a plain US senator, like all the rest. Anything beyond that, which includes her being involved in this presidential race is only because of her husband, Bill Clinton, the big guy.

August 31, 2008
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guest, Hillary has more political experience from being a U.S. Senator than Obama and Sarah Palin combined. AND, we're not talking about a Senator from say, Montana. We're talking about New York.

Politically, she has been and is still much more than "just" a past First Lady.

To say the only reason she got into this presidential race is because of her husband is to deny the powerful political figure that she is.

She has, and continues to be, a powerful force in the Democratic Party.

Personally, I can't stand her. BUT. She is what she is. Hillary Clinton is a powerful political leader.

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August 31, 2008
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And I'd swear some people ARE in the handicapped thing just for the parking spaces.

That's so friggin funny!

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