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Has anyone ever been or belong presently to a Unitarian Church?
June 30, 2007
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Please tell me your experiences and impressions. I am considering going even though I stopped practising my Christian religion when I was a child. My beliefs are nature based. Would it make sense for me to check it out? I have heard good things.

-ella

June 30, 2007
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I guess a better question is, though my beliefs are different in many ways- they overlap and I can appreciate a lot of what Unitarianism has to offer. But is is dumb for me to seek out a spiritual community that I already have a slightly different focus than? I mean, I can interpret things that they teach and do so through the filter of my own beliefs, but would there be a place for me there?

At this point, I do not feel comfortable or drawn to gatherings of people in Wicca or nature based religions that SEEM to represent what I believe. It is complicated to go into here. But I would like to be part of a community of people who share spiritual ideas. I got the impression that Unitarianism allows for much flexibility. But how much?

Please share your thoughts.

-ella

June 30, 2007
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hi ella

I say go check it out and see if you're comfortable there.

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June 30, 2007
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Yes, I think that is the best thing to do. You don't get a true impression by reading summaries of a religion! But I did understand that they believe that Jesus is a great man, though not a God or son of God. Also, some believe in the supernatural aspect of his existence, but not all. Just an emphasis on his teachings, etc. It is not a faith with an emphasis on dogma which is good for me.

Btw, Free-

How have you been?

July 1, 2007
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Hi ella-

I'm doin okay. I just love the summer months. Spending a great deal of time outside in my yard.

you?

I still say no harm in checking out this church. Churches aren't for everybody, but they are certainly for many people. They've all much to offer- especially a support group, new friends, etc. The beliefs that they adhere to may not correspond with yours right now, but leave room for changing and growing as you look for a niche that you can comfortably fit into.

I thought there were gonna be a ton of responses on this thread- mainly in opposition to to a Unitarian church or God or both.

I think they've all got something good to offer.

Well maybe not Satan worshipping things. who on earth would wanna do THAT? This, I've never been able to comprehend.

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July 1, 2007
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I have found this Unitarian church in my neighborhood and they also seem to incorporate religions other than Christianity, such as Hinduism and others from what I see...

I think they believe in the "oness" of god, which I'm not sure, but I think that means that god is everything and everything is god????

Any insights?

July 1, 2007
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Hi ella-

Check out this link:

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Uni.....eliefs.htm

I think this sounds really interesting and would like to know how it goes for you next Sunday if you choose to go. It doesn't look like Unitarians have a set of beliefs. Looks like they are people from all walks looking for other people to go find answers with.

Sounds pretty cool, and I love the concept of no hell.

Looks like not very many people are posting today.

I'm certain you'll get many responses later.

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July 1, 2007
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Ella~ I hope and pray it would be a good church for you. I come from dysfunctional family going thru emotional healing and have no support system from any memeber in my family and thus I strongly need brothers and sisters from my church, which I do.

I have been greatly blessed by my church despite the obstacles which I once psoted about.

I hope you will find a good church. YOu really need one. I know you too is emotionally suffering and went thru so much pain and abuse just like me.

Keep me posted hon!xoxoxo

July 1, 2007
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Thanks for the link! I will check it out. Yeah, I love the idea of no hell and that people have diverse beliefs in Unitarianism. But they do have common ones as well, which makes sense.

My lifestyle has changed a lot since the nature spell-casting in the woods days. I also believe that as much as I would love to be around people of like mind (pagans), I would appreciate a community of other people as well. Life is short, I know that sounds stupid, but I want more types of exposure than limiting myself to a coven of just a few people.

I feel my spiritual side being neglected, and I need to nurture it in some way... at least by exploration.

Yeah, maybe some people will post later. There are some intense debates going on so a lot of the posters are a little busy.

Glad you wrote.

-ella

July 1, 2007
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Rasputin,

I will let you know what it was like when I finally go there. I have a feeling it will take a while because it involves me waking up early on my only day off!!! But I am set on it.

-ella

July 2, 2007
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Mzrella

I have never been to a Unitarian service, but my sister has when she lived in upstate New York. From what she told me, they are not as rigid, and they are very open to alternative types of discussions.

She said at one of the services, all they did was sit around and talk about UFOs.

I guess it couldn't hurt? You don't have to just offer up your philosophy the first time you go. Good luck to you - I'll be interested in hearing how it goes.

July 2, 2007
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Wow. UFOs huh? Can't get more open minded that that.

July 2, 2007
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Mzrella

Well- she really liked that because she was of the belief that there was evidence of UFO's in the bible starting with Adam's Rib. The deep slumber, etc. Her words were "could it be more obvious? Laser surgery!" So she liked it, because she couldn't get anyone to talk about that.

July 2, 2007
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Ella~

Don't get involved in so much activities too soon. Remember, we hurting people need to take it easy in everything. I know that I am a harworking person and I pray always to God to help me slow down. It's very important, otherwise we would get burn out.

Best of luck!

July 10, 2007
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Hey ella

I came across this sermon online and thought of you:

http://www.fculittle.org/sermo.....jesus.html

It's a Unitarian sermon.

I loved it.

Did you go last Sunday?

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July 10, 2007
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Hello!

Wow, a sermon online? I will check out that link. I do want to gather information, but also if this is something that I feel comfortable with- I would like to go and be around people of like mind. So it is important that I do actually follow through on this. I really need to change my lifestyle to make things like this happen- I'm not a morning person and I really need to change my schedule. It will help me with a lot of problems I am having and open the door to these new experiences since the world operates on a morning schedule it seems!

There is a church that I found, and it's not that far from me either. I didn't get to go. I'm beginning renovations on my apartment and spent Sunday chasing the contractor- not a very spiritual pursuit, but it needs to be done.

In the meantime, I will definitely check out that sermon. I appreciate you thinking of me, and I'm glad you enjoyed it.

-ella

July 10, 2007
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Hello again. That sermon was really great, I really have to tell you thanks again now that I've read it.

It was almost a little eerie because it is very similar to what I believe, almost exactly as stated in certain points. Naturally, I am not that eloquent.

When I was younger I remember when I stopped going to church. My sister cried because she thought I was going to hell and that I was an athiest. I tried to explain to her that I believed in God, but in a different way. She asked "Do you believe that Jesus is the son of God?" I said, "Well, no more than any of the rest of us." She was stunned and said "Whoah... that's... cool... I guess." But it was such a weird moment because it just felt good to say what I believed even though I felt like people would think it was wrong. At least my sister was open minded.

It would have been great to have found this church when I was young, but then maybe I would have missed out on a lot of solitary exploration and soul searching. I have these pagan-like beliefs and I guess I needed those experiences as well. The things I believe really aren't conflicting, I just didn't know there were other people who thought so much the same way.

The part about dualities becoming one really resonates with me as well, though I do recognize dualities I believe that they ultimately are One and come from One. If that makes any sense. Some of my artwork reflected this in the past.

This is a good example of how a lot of religions or spiritual beliefs have more similarities than differences if one digs under the surface.

Thanks for the great read, I loved the way it was written.
Oh, yeah... and I especially liked the part in the sermon where Jesus says "You DA MAN!" LOL.

-ella

July 10, 2007
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"...when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female . . . then you will enter [the kingdom]."

awesome stuff. just the TRUTH right there. It relates to interconnectedness of all things as well, though I know that's not what it says...

July 11, 2007
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hi ella~

That part: Jesus says "You DA MAN!"

-absolutely cracked me up.

I've been reading about unitarianism out of curiosity- it seems to have alot of gnostic characteristics to it. I wish I had found a Unitarian church when I was much younger. I think I might have fit in there.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here knowing that others might bite my head off- but- the "realizations" that you're having, the "that's it!" sensation when you read this stuff- and you're being drawn to it- is characteristic of a gnostic.

Check out gnosticism-you just might find the "fit" that you're looking for. There are different types of gnostics, and there is no one "mold" that any type fits into. This is partly why they're called mystics sometimes. They see things from a different perspective and their perspectives differ- and they like that.

From what I've been reading, the Unitarian church seems to cater to this- giving "breathing room" to it's members.

And the last thing you wrote ella:

"awesome stuff. just the TRUTH right there. It relates to interconnectedness of all things as well, though I know that's not what it says... "

One can expand upon this,but bottom line, your interpretation IS what he is saying here. the Gospel of St. thomas is about illusions and here Jesus is saying that these differences that exist in our material world- they're not real. They don't really exist. there most certainly is an interconnectedness of all things....

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July 11, 2007
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Why do you think that other's would gve you a hard time?

The last line two lines you wrote really resonate with me, and I think the basis for much of what I believe in is the interconnectedness of all things, and the macrocosm/microcosm connection as well... I think that this not only does not conflict with the facts in the scientific natural world, but is reflected clearly when we look at how ecosystems work (or become damaged) and things like this.

What I'm trying to say, not very clearly, is that I don't think Gnosticism and Paganism are mutually exclusive ways of looking at things, but that they support one another.

I'm not very good at verbalizing these things.

-ella

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