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Has anyone else ever heard of this?
July 19, 2005
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OK, it may sound strange...but I am curious about this.

A good friend of mine is pregnant with her 2nd child and we were talking at lunch about children and safety of children (As there is a case going on the the UK at the moment, where a 12 yr old girl, tortured and hung a 5 yr old boy). Well, another colleague mentioned a story about a couple who were visiting disneyland on vacation and they had a little boy and a little girl both on those safety harness's, well the story goes that they were in a crowd, one of them holding one childs harness each, when one of the couple (whoever was holding the little boys harness) who thought the the little boy was standing behind them, looked around and realised that the harness had been severed deliberatly and the boy was gone. They began tro frantically search the crowd for them when they were approached by an older couple who asked if they could help, when told of the younger couples predicament, the older couple offered to take care of the little girl while the younger couple could split up and search more thoroughly for their son. As they seemed like a nice trustworthy retired couple, the younger couple in their panic, handed over the little girl and went searching. They returned at an agreed time to the same spot and lo and behold the older couple had dissappeared with the tot. The story goes that neither child or the couple was ever seen again.

Soooo....has anyone ever heard this story? If so, is it true? or is it one of those urban myths to stop you putting those safety hanress's on toddlers?

July 19, 2005
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Must be a myth...there's no toddler in the world that's going to stay on a leash without resistance, you would notice in a second if there wasn't that pull on the end. For that matter, children next to never go off with people they don't know even volentarily, they are creatures of familiarity at that point. there would DEFINATELY be a fuss if some mean person cut their thing (my neice HATES her stroller, but will throw a FIT if she sees my daughter playing with it) or if someone they didn't know tried to take them away from mommy and daddy...especially at Disney World, kids know where the wallets at, and who gave them the ice cream, and that their hotel has a pool...:)

July 19, 2005
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Rev,

When was this supposed to have happened? I watch the news just about every night and I haven't heard anything like that recently.

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July 19, 2005
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Hi lolli, I don't think it was recent if it did happen at all. Funny thing was the after the girl told this story, my friend says "yeh...i heard about that". Maybe it was just one of those urban legends...I dunno.

July 19, 2005
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My gut feeling is that IF it did happen, this reknown family entertainment corporation would never let it out if possible, unless the media got hold of it. The only things I have heard of this entertainment corporation are positive.

If that did happen, it seems like a set up; where the nice elderly couple who seem good intended and helpless are actually part of the scheme. Sorta like where you pick up the female hitch hiker and her partner is just down the road a piece to be picked up and to do you harm or to steal your car. Rare, but they happen.

July 19, 2005
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EF,

Your naiveness frightens me! Children do go with strangers, sometimes and they are kidnapped, just watch the news. It does happen, sadly. My sister in law had ID bands for her little ones........cannot remember the National name of the organization that does this to protect children. It is a scary world out there and these things do happen!

Peace,

Sew

July 19, 2005
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ef, I'm with sew on this. Don't walk away from your little girl's stroller for a minute, don't turn your back on her or trust a stranger's kind face when they offer to hold her for you so you can look at something in a store. You can't be too careful.

One of the worst stories I read was about a baby that was kidnapped as her mother was leaving the hospital - a kind, motherly woman offered to hold the newborn for a second so the mother could deal with something, and the mother never saw the baby again. The next thing that made the news was that the baby had been found - it is too horrible to contemplate, but drug dealers had killed the child and stuffed her little body full of drugs to get them through customs.

We all know that there is more evil out there than we can measure, some of us here have lived through nightmares, but there is still worse out there!

July 19, 2005
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I googled in: National child safety kit and got these.

Child ID Kit - Child ID Wristbands and Shoe Labels Child ID, DNA & Fingerprinting Kits
http://www.readysafety.com

Child ID Fingerprint Kit - Child Fingerprint/DNA Collection Ensure the safety of your children
http://www.kidsave.com

Patient ID Wristbands - Wide selection quality wristbands, including bar code, RFID, and more.
http://www.pdcorp.com

Child ID Safety Key - Protect your child - Be Prepared Link your child to the authorities
http://www.lifelynx.net

My sister in law also had her kids fingerprinted at the hospital where she works when the community had presented this valuable information.

Not to scare you, but just to share some information.

Say, I even have an ID pellet injected just underneath my cat's fur in case she gets lost, she will be sent back home! My vet strongly recommended it!

Sew

July 19, 2005
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Oops, forgot to double space; been awhile with posting.

July 19, 2005
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I'm sure I was overly extreme for comedic value there, certainly had no plans to frighten or discomfort anyone, though I am hardly naive... personally I don't ever let my child wander off, her stroller is touching me at all times. I wouldn't put her on a leash at all mostly becasue it seems silly, this is just something a friend of mine pointed out about them once when I asked her if she was scared of her son slipping out.

July 19, 2005
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Wow, I would NEVER let a stranger hold my daughter by the way, that's just dangerous! I think in the end only safe responsible parenting can protect a child, and the biggest culprait in something like this would be a lack of responsability. The story just struck me as logistically absurd is all.

July 19, 2005
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I have never heard of this one story in particular, but strange things like this do happen. People disappear everyday and are never seen or heard from again, sadly and very disturbing how this happens.
If I could afford to, My kittie would have that thing behind his neck too... and IF i could afford it, Id have em' put one under Jakeys skin too...i worry about that kid...Heck...it would make looking for J when he "disappears" a lot easier too....LOL...((not tryingto make light out of these scenarios...) but it does make me go "Hmmmmmmmm....."

July 20, 2005
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AW, look at those sites. They have National fingerprinting for kids, and it's for life, which is good for teenagers too. (So you do not put them under a human's skin; it is about the size of a rice pellet). Or, you were joshing, right? Sometimes, I am not too sure about you! LOL

EF, Whew! I know you are a good mom, but, look at what and how you wrote above...............so I was worried, and JW as well read the same. Goes to show what we write can be heard in many ways without our voice inflection!

Going to share a story. Was out shopping with my daughter Lorelei when she was about 3 years old. We were at a clothing store. That was the time when some of the circular clothes racks would sit upon a foot high platform. We had the stroller, but, tired and restless, I allowed her out of it with holding her hand.

The clerk brought me an article of clothing and I took it, dropping my daughter's hand, but she was to hold onto my pantleg so I knew she was right there. A few moments went by, and she was not there!

I called for her.....no answer. I asked the clerk.....she said she waas right there next to you a moment ago,..........then glared at me like am I nuts or what? But no child around. So I told the clerk to help me look for her NOW, please, in a panic, mouth dry, heart racing, stomach ready to emit sour bile.....I was in a panic.

After about five horrific minutes, for some reason, I looked between the clothes on that circular platform. There she WAS! Smiling, giggling, thought it was funny. She was about 12 inches from where I was standing wsith her all along!

Well, she got scolded for not answering when she was called for.

I asked her WHY she was hiding there (other than her thinking it was funny)...........that 12 inch platform was the perfect level for
her "I wanted to sit down, mommy."

We shared that story many times over. She is now 35 years old. But it was the scariest moment to have experienced.

Thanks for allowing me to share. I needed this moment tonite.

Sew

July 20, 2005
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I have the fingerprint kits for my kids and pictures - even of my 23 year old. I almost died when she covered her birthmark on her thigh w/ a tattoo. I'm like now how we gonna find you if you're in a ditch somewhere. But then, the tattoo of a BIG sunflower is quite unique in itself. It is pictured and put w/ her fingerprints.

I guess most moms don't keep their kids fingerprints, lock of hair, etc. after they leave home, but, I'm not normal.

My sis took my 2 oldest to Walmart when they were 5 and 8 to let them show her what they wanted for Christmas. I will tell you my hubby had to hold me back when she told me proudly that she took them to the back the the store and told them not to move till she came back so she could buy their presents. Still totally ticks me off.

She is the sis w/ the twins, now 6, and I am so totally almost paranoid when we go places w/ the kids. I'm supposed to let her be more responsible, but like when we go to the hospital, I come from the ladies room and the twins are playin in the play area and mom has gone into the cafeteria for coffee. I ask her why... she says there are two of them. They know better than to wander off. Hell no, but then there is 2 for the kidnapping instead of 1 also. She leaves her prescriptions down and says "my boys know better". I want to shove that term in her face so bad. Sorry, I'm goin on to far now. But damn... she is a pediatrics ICU nurse and works ER and trauma. What is wrong w/ this picture.

I so totally don't get folks like her. But they are out there also.

We are in a rural area and from now and then we hear of a car that tried to pick a small child up outta their yard. Most of us go an alert for the vehicle. Some say it's stupid and we are paranoid. But isn't paranoia, no caution warranted when caring for the most precious gifts God gave us to watch over?

July 20, 2005
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So nobody's heard of the disneyland story???

By the way, I really like the name "Lorelei" sew, I might steel it someday!!!

July 20, 2005
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Sure Rev! It is spelled the German way....with the lei at the end. I got it from the Sonnet of the Lorelei,(?) from reading it in High School and it always struck me as so compelling when you say it, just as the Loreelei's siren were in calling and wooing the saiors at sea, causing their ships to crash upon the rocks when they were smitten by their sirens! The name means song, I think. Then her middle name of joyce.... so......song of joy...AND she sings in church AND plays instruments. Did giving her that name provide for her talents? Perhaps not, but she truly is the name that was given to her!

July 26, 2005
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I am new to all this but wanted to add something after reading your post's. What happens to children these days is unthinkable. Yet we have to keep it in our thoughts in order to keep them safe from harm. Children dissapear daily in many ways. My daughter now 22, got away from us at a store when she was 3 as well. All of a sudden over the speaker we heard can Wranny please come to the something or other desk. We were so scared we could only cry and search until we heard that call for Wranny. Wranny is my mother, my daughter Rachel asked them to call for her. We were lucky that day but, many are not so lucky. I never let my grandson away from me in a store or anywhere for that matter. The world we live in is just so busy and clustered to take anything where our children are concerned for granted.
Thanks for sharing.. Pop

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