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Guppy & Fried Onion
February 15, 2006
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Not a de-sing-er, a de-sign-er. Apparently a designer that can't type.

February 15, 2006
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Good info on shame and guilt Young'n.

Not as hard as it might seem, Gup. All too easy is closer to the truth. It's really a matter of principal with me. I know many people who use their past as a justification for who they could be, but aren't, (including me). I'm wary because I have so often given too much credence to events in my past, instead of working on me, now.

Remember, I came here because I was obsessing over someone who left me 12 years ago. It's not hard to face the facts of the past - it's hard not to dwell on them.

I see you have limits for other people. I'm still not quite convinced that you always know when to stop, though. =D

Hi Shaney,

Thank you for your kind thoughts.

After you proof and edit your post, you might want to do a little kerning, too. 😉

((((Y&G&S&P))))

(Does a group hug count as adultery, Gup?) 😉

February 16, 2006
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Ah yes... especially around the W's and the V's. Oooooooooh yeah! ;o}

February 16, 2006
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I’m doing alright Philly (I want you to know that I always draw out the "ll" sound when I say that.

How are you?

It’s prematurely dark, cold and wet in my neck of the world today (Chicago). I’m at work and keep trying quiet my inner child, which says “This is such ideal weather for curling up with a soft blanket, a copy of Edgar Allen Poe’s Complete Works, Tales and Poems and a creamy Vinti coffee from Starbucks.”

I tried to convince her that PowerPoint Presentations can also be fun...She just gave me a dirty look. What am I going to do with that girl?

You're welcome for the info friend; I found it helpful and wanted to share with you.

Thank you for putting so much of yourself into that post Phil. As I read, I felt empathy for you pain and excitement for you triumph.

I know the big picture of you was for Gup, but may I just say that I agree with what Shaney posted; The ups and downs in your life have conspired to make you one awesome guy...the guy that your expressive posts consistently tell that you are.

I value the one-on-one moments in communication; you know? I dig little things like eye contact and name repetition, therefore, following the evolution of a large multi-partied conversation can be really disorienting for me. But I like talking to you so let's see I can remedy this. If I missed any thing you said to me directly…my response is C. If “C” doesn’t really apply to the situation…let’s go with a “Yes” or a “What’s your angle Phil?” Safe and sound responses, very indicative of our friendship.

OK buddy! I've got to run; I’ve decided to stick around and do what the executives pay me to do. My inner child will thank me on pay day.

February 16, 2006
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Hi Gup,

Hope you're having a really good day today!

February 16, 2006
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hi y & r-i'm having a great day!! glad u are doing well. it's seventy five degrees and sunshiney here. your laid back sense of humour is soo funny. be good.

February 16, 2006
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philmore-that was an ugly remark. if u meant it to hurt me, it did. and yes i know how to stop....u got it.
be good.

February 17, 2006
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Hi Phil, from reading your posts I can see how you have come a long way and improved yourself. You deserve alot of credit of who you are today. They say that how your brought up is why you (meaning the general public) are the way you are today, do you understand what I am trying to say? Its all positive.

I see in your posts you give your very best of yourself and always treat others with respect and if you need to confront them you do it and I think thats great. There are many people who will not change and will always fall back onto their old habits and co dependent ways, I know I do that from time to time but I can remember a time when all I did was whine, cry, feel sad and think everyone was out to get me or blame me for things. Anyhow I am doing good and now know how to take negative and positive advise pretty good. I am no longer on the outside looking in....I am inside now!

Anyhow I think your a good and genuine guy and care alot how others feel and what their needs are. But remember you can't please everyone.

Have a good weekend
Bel

February 17, 2006
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hey, i am not mad or anything. dont think that. i wanted to know your past, u want me to lay off. u were kind enough to grant me that, the least i can do is be gracious enough to back off. my intention was and still isn't to make an enemy out of ya. last post, promise. 😉
((((philmore))))

February 17, 2006
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Gup, I need to take a break from this dialogue we are having. I don't think it's good for me. I feel like I am playing ping pong, or something.

I guess it's good that you decided to go first. Sorry to have said hurtful things - for what it's worth.

I hope your life turns out the way you want it to be. Hopefully we can both come away with something good, learned from each other. Hopefully we can have more productive communication in the future.

February 18, 2006
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Young'n - I do appreciate your generous words. I also know that there is so much more work to be done here, you know?

It's easy to talk a good game.

It's about 7 degrees here (Denver). Snowy.

I'm a quality as opposed to quantity person, when it comes to friendships. (I'll try to remember the eye contact/name repetition thing for my next date!) I guess I would prefer to curl up in front of a nice warm video game myself, having a piping hot bowl of "herbs yeilding seed" (Genesis). Like I said - 34 going on 13!

I think I'm going to take a break from this thread, nothing personal (to anyone). I'm sure we will cross paths in the future. Be well.

February 18, 2006
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bel - Sometimes I do forget to just stop and appreciate the steps forward. Thanks a lot for your supportive words. I can't help but feel sometimes, like the old ways are always about one mistake away for me. I know it's a huge cliche, but attitutde really is everything.

I'm glad you found a better understanding - what a difference a new perspective makes. Plenty of work (for me, at least), but so worth it in the end.

Your spirit comes through in your words. Feels good to me. 🙂 Best wishes.

February 18, 2006
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((((Guppy))))
((((Young'n))))
((((bel))))

February 18, 2006
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Philly!!!

I know and that’s ok…

He doesn’t need to be perfect when he comes...certainly, I’m not. There IS something so wonderful about the synergy of building together; sweating together, working together, learning together, and growing together…I’m learning to respect the process of construction.

Doesn’t matter if that construction is on houses or psyches…the same principles apply.

I haven’t shown you generous, yet…just honest.

“I'm a quality as opposed to quantity person, when it comes to friendships.” I get the sense of that from you; so am I. Tis funny thought…cuz from day one you've always had something of a large following-who knew the real deal when they saw it-including myself.

“I'll try to remember the eye contact/name repetition thing for my next date!” OH! I'm squealing in deligh! Doesn’t THAT make me the luckiest girl in the land!!! No really, can't you just feel my excitement? If not...don't hold your breath.

And, dont try to act all, “I’m a stoner” either. Didn’t you tell me once that you hit the stuff because it relieves the pressure in your eyes? Don't worry, you can still be my bad boy hero!

OOUUUUUUU! I’m not touching the Genesis thing. And, should “HE” inquire of me, I’ll be standing there looking at you, with a smirk, saying, “I don’t know ANYTHING on the subject, and certainly I’m not the type of girl who would point elbows at the person who does, Father…(the whole time, I would be standing there with one hand on top of my head…and an elbow pointed squarely at you). LOL…Don’t worry though, even if I rat you out, I would definitely help you with your penitence. I'll say half your "Hail Maries" or something. You see, that’s just the type of friend I am LOL.

Laughing with you! Thinking of you! Wishing you the Best! Learning from you! Using the inspiration you give me to enriching my life…

Until we meet again, you be well as well, my friend Phil!

February 18, 2006
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How you holding up Gupster?

75 degrees? You lucky girl!

Hope you have an INCREDIBLE Saturday!

February 18, 2006
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actually youngin-yesterday about did me in. bad,bad, day. today is better though. thanks for asking. my dad called last night while i was out and said he had me an appoint. in houston. (about my eyes) i know i have been authorizing the transfer of all my records all week. i love to fly. all of a sudden i'm excited!!i figured i wouldn't hear either way for weeks or months. it's weird, last night i was totally disgusted with my life and now i am almost euphoric. i'm sorry i went past "fine" "how r u" but i'm to excited not to blab!!!!!!!!!!!i hope your saturday is good. your other post is a treasure. i'm sure u will be blessed immensley for it. (the bible study) later gator!!! ((youngin))um....it's seventy seven here today. i'm sunburned from sitting on soccer field four hours this morning. i know u didn't need to know that.:)

February 18, 2006
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youngin, if u are willing, lets let this thread go....i dont feel right posting on philmore's thread with him. it's a respect thing. 🙂 so, we can make another one or i'll catch u up front or on bible thread ok??? i know i would feel like tuna in a can if u two keep posting on here with out me.:)

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