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GOP: The Political Party of Satan
October 17, 2006
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This is intended to be a controversial thread.

I am not particularly happy with the Democratic party, or the Republican party these days. But I can say for sure that I am absolutely disgusted with the GOP.

I will use a combination of hyped rhetoric, reasoned argument, and references to support my position. We might, and probably ought to spin off a debate thread of two, but debate is not my real purpose here.

The purpose of this thread is bashing of the GOP. When I say bashing, I mean pointing out the motives and policies of the modern GOP that are just plain evil, sick and wrong.

I distinguish between ordinary people who have voted GOP and the actual GOP, its goals, methods and policies. I know that many good and well-intended have voted GOP in their lives. I believe that Jesus would forgive them. Many of them anyway.

Although I do refer partly to GOP politicians, I am really talking about the heart and soul of modern GOP policy. There are probably some GOP politicians who are not irrevocably evil. Being or becoming evil seems to be an occupational hazard of getting into politics—doesn’t matter which political affiliation you claim.

That being said...

I believe that the modern GOP is strongly Anti-Jesus, and is a tool of the anti-Christ. If there is an anti-Christ, that is. What I mean by that is that a vote for a GOP candidate is a vote against the teachings of Jesus.

And I mean that the modern GOP is strongly Pro-Devil. If there is a Devil that is. By Devil I mean Satan. If there is a Satan that is.

I believe that the modern GOP is also strongly anti-American, and is in its heart and soul unpatriotic and dedicated to destroying everything that makes America a Free, Beautiful and Great Nation.

My thesis:

The modern GOP is

1) Anti-Christ

2) Anti-child

3) Anti-woman

4) Anti-minority

5) Anti-family

6) Anti-middle class

7) Anti-elderly

8) Anti-disabled

9) Anti-veteran

10) Anti-poor—More than that, but I think the GOP is “Pro-Poverty.”

11) Anti-Democracy

12) Anti-American

13) Anti-Peace

14) Anti-Life.

Consequent thesis: The long-documented philosophies and policies of the modern GOP are the exact recipe for: "Hell on Earth for most people, followed by the premature extinction of the human race."

The first part of their plan is to destro America, then all other nations, and then as much of all life in the universe as they possibly can.

Personally, I am against the premature extinction of the Human Race, and from where I stand it looks like the modern GOP has been crafted by Satan (if there were a Satan, that is) for the purpose of causing that extinction.

If I left anything off the list, please feel free to chime in.

And of course, I welcome arguments and evidence from people who disagree with me.

After all, I might be wrong.

October 18, 2006
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I can't help it wd. I gotta respond.

But you knew that.

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October 18, 2006
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You wrote: "I am not particularly happy with the Democratic party, or the Republican party these days."

Is there someone who is?

You write: "debate is not my real purpose here."

That's really funny!

You write:"
The purpose of this thread is bashing of the GOP."

This will accomplish what?

You write: "I believe that Jesus would forgive them."

I believe He will forgive those who didn't vote GOP as well.

You write "There are probably some GOP politicians who are not irrevocably evil."

I imagine there are some bleeding heart liberals who aren't irrevocably evil as well. Hoping anyways.

You write: "I believe that the modern GOP is strongly Anti-Jesus."

It's the liberals who don't want God in the public eye wd. How you're gonna argue this position definitely has my curiosity aroused. Liberals don't like the Jesus scene as it interferes with constitutional freedoms, and if ya think about it, they're right

You write: "And I mean that the modern GOP is strongly Pro-Devil"

How come when an individual disagrees strongly with something it's "evil"? and "devil?" Maybe, just maybe, there is very different perspectives at work , perspectives that have nothing to do with evil. And what about agnostics and atheists? What if the divil ain't even out there wd?

You write: I believe that the modern GOP is also strongly anti-American.

hmmm.....doesn't seem it's members of the GOP burning flags and wearing anarchy patches/signs, etc. Seems to me the GOP cares ONLY about Americans and nobody else. Nobody. Gop is selfish.

Gonna have a cig.

Then gonna hit the list you posted.

This is gonna be fun- but wd, no hurting feelers k? I'll try not to hurt yours. My feelers are touchy these days.

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October 18, 2006
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GoP is:

Anti Christ? Well, this is gonna depend on one's interpretation of Christ and His purpose. The whole religious debate- I dunno. Seems to me both sides make valid stakes.

Anti Child? GOP wants every child graduating High School prepared to attend college and isn't taking no for an answer. No Child left behind is liberal idealism.

Anti-Woman? It's not anti- single working mother. I was scared when Bush first got elected. But that year and subsequent years, earned income icreased, and the child tax credit went up. Then the additional child tax credit came into play, and since I had 3 kids, I benefited from that. Under Clinton, I would have had more net spendable on welfare not working, than I did working. I worked due to pride. Under Bush, I had more net spendable working than on welfare. he provided incentives to work.

Anti-Minority?: This doesn't make sense considering who has been appointed.

Anti-Middle Class?: I just bought a house, first time homebuyer, thanks to federal programs that were not there before.

Anti-Veteran? I just had my oldest apply for college benefits even though she's only a Junior in High School kuz I'm afraid Bush might be on the way out. Disabled vets pays her full tuition +books + part living expenses for 4 years. If she just enrolls in one class at the local community college and starts these benefits, we may be able to keep them. this is a benefit that notoriously falls under the liberal ax.

Anti-Peace? WE've debated that. Some people blieve that the way to ensure peace is to ensure similar governments. Thus Islamic Extremism. Thus pedatory Capitalism. somebody's gonna win, kuz neither backs down- that's just "not in the manifesto."

Personally, I think Islamic Extremism is gonna wind up ruling the world. But that's another thread.

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October 18, 2006
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Hi Free,

I used the nastiest and most inflammatory rhetoric I could muster to draw you here. I want everyone else to go whole hog on this thread, or not, as they see fit.

But it was you, Free, who I was trying to summon.

Thank you for noticing that I am alive.

Oh, I forgot...

I should confess my emotional pre-conditions...

This thread is also about venting....= and having totally irrational hissy-fit.

I'm venting and having an irrational hissy-fit.

Look, it is a hissy fit. Isn't that cute. WD is having another hissy fit.

I wouldn't want anyone to be mistaken about the fact that the day I started this thread I woke up hurting, pissed off, and afraid.

I can only put a small portion of "blame" for that on the "GOP."

But, since I was hurting, pissed off, and afraid, I said "what the hell."

Free, You could maybe work this thread with insight and integrity...but really for me, just having you acknowledge the thread is good enough for me.

October 18, 2006
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Free:

As you have pointed out to me recently, you do not consider yourself to be a militant hard liner, one party or another.

Did you know, I am not either?

I am a Constitutionalist and a Jesus-ist and a Buddha-ist and a Human-ist "Feminist" is implicit in those definitions. Best I can tell, That makes me an alien to all powers-that-be.

But I am certain that you and I, Free, are a consituency of Two Human Beings and that you and I are united in some ways, and around some policies and ideas...I can smell it.

Free, I think that is why you and I put up with each other.

October 18, 2006
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Free:

The fake Islamiscists? Islamisistas? Whatever the fuck they are? Fuck em.

They are just a tiny sliver of the large group that is against U and Me and folks like us.

We can beat em. Easy.

But first, we have to make wife beating and child beating and other kinds of beating...at least, unacceptable here at home.

We haven't done that yet, Free.

The beating of women and children and people of color and people who are poor is not only not-exactly-forbidden here, Free, it is more or less mandatory.

That has to be fixed. Now.

October 18, 2006
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Oh, if husband beating remains acceptable then we are all equally screwed as well. In my opinion.

October 18, 2006
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A study from Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, to be published in the Lancet, contends nearly 655,000 Iraqis have died because of the war.

What is it about "Thou shalt not kill" that this president finds so hard to understand?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15215574/

October 18, 2006
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THE WAR crimes report by Karen Parker illustrates how such an astonishing number of Iraqis could have been killed by violence. It also details the direct responsibility of the U.S. in creating conditions of insecurity and humanitarian crisis.

According to the report, U.S. occupation forces systematically committed war crimes in Iraq--such as the U.S. military’s targeting of Iraq’s medical infrastructure, its disregard for providing clean water and electricity to the civilian population, and its use of internationally prohibited chemical and radioactive weapons.

“The rules of engagement instruct U.S. soldiers to bring withering force to bear on positions they’re attacked from, even when an insurgent ducks into a private house for cover,” according to a January 2004 Christian Science Monitor report quoted in Parker’s study.

“One sergeant puts it this way: ‘If someone runs into a house, we’re going to light it up. If civilians get killed in there, that’s a tragedy, but we’re going to keep doing it and people are going to get the message that they should do whatever they can to keep these people out of their neighborhoods.”

Such “rules of engagement” are a clear violation of international law, which both obligates foreign occupation forces to safeguard the security of civilians and enshrines armed resistance as the legal right of a population under occupation.

U.S. military commanders have also acknowledged, after initial denials, that both napalm-like compounds and white phosphorous have been used in Iraq--with predictably horrific results. Napalm, which is a mixture of jet fuel and sticky gel, and white phosphorous both create fiery explosions--water is of no use in extinguishing these chemicals once on the skin, which melts away.

U.S. use of armor-piercing depleted uranium (DU) rounds has also led to terrible sicknesses and medical conditions among Iraqis. “Widespread use of DU weapons in Iraq has resulted in an escalating incidence of birth defects, cancers, and other illnesses and conditions related to use of this type of uranium,” according to the report. “In Basra, for example, where DU was used by invading U.S. forces in 1991, cancer rates increased nine-fold in the eight years after their use...

“The conclusion, as one analyst puts it, is ‘[w]e can now say with certainty that the only WMDs in Iraq were those that were introduced by foreign invaders from the U.S. who have used them to subjugate the indigenous people.’”

http://www.socialistworker.org/2006-2/606/606_05_Toll.shtml

October 18, 2006
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LOL WD! At your response to me. I'm always gonna respond to a thread title such as this kuz we're not all that separate after all. neither party is Satanic and none of our presidents were either. We all want to leave a better world for our children, and we want more money to spend on a daily basis. We want help when we're down, and we want the opportunity to make our dreams a reality. It's how to go about that, that separates the parties, liberals and conservatives.

Let's face it. Here at AAC, if you don't have guest or I on a political thread, then there isn't any disagreement that will enable expression of anger and hostility. It'll get boring. And the thread whithers away.

People do get quite hostile when defending or attacking a political party. I find this fascinating.

WD, it seems that what really gets under your skin, is this war with Iraq.

I heard an interesting stat today but I don't know if it's true- gotta look it up. Guy said that over the past couple years 2800 americans were killed in Iraq. Over the last year, 39,000 americans were killed in drunk driving accidents on our highways. it's not the American deaths that bugs you though right? It's the Iraqi deaths.

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Hi Free,

It's true--it's hard to find a good argument here.

Eventually I'll come back to evolution or pornography or something.

Yes the Iraq war really gets me.
Beginining with the civilian casualties.

And the civilian refugees who have left the country. Almost a million of them.

Soldiers who invade and occupy foreign lands in illegal wars of aggression can expect to be killed.

But now that you mention it, we've lost almost many Americans in Iraq as we did in the 911 attacks.

And the cost is ruinous.

And the reason it was done?

So we would think we were "at war." So Bushe's rich freiends could be awarded big fat no-bid contracts in Iraq.

October 18, 2006
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Anti American:

The Patriot act. The loss of the right to privacy. The loss of habeus corpus.

Basically, anyone can now be accused of being involved in "terrorism" and put away forever without ever getting to see a lawyer or a judge, without ever being charged with a crime.

That is so un-American.

October 18, 2006
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WD:

I had to post,

So how do you feel about the pledge of allegence being taken out?

Or In God we Trust??

better yet the word GOD

Oh and what about Santa Clause?

or taking the books we loved to read in school?
like the cather in the rye??

merry christmas??? no happy holidays...

Im gona enjoy watching you and free go at it,

I live In SC as you know, I work very close to a navel base, and i meet alot of men and women from there, it saddens me to hear there stories, and I to have my thoughts about the war, the politics and what not, but im afraid im not on your level of education, so i will just read on,,

Love to you both...
Kasie

October 18, 2006
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uh - oh

did i ruin you thread WD?

Im sorry, i wont post again.

October 18, 2006
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Kasie you silly- join in!

You don't have to be "educated" as far as taking classes, etc. My mom has more knowledge in her littly pinky than most professors and she took a few classes at the community college when she was bored with life.

If you need resources to back up your points, just google your thoughts and see what comes up. This is the best way to get "educated." I learned a great deal about Islam a short while ago on a rather heated thread.

Glad to have ya here Kassie.

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Hi Kasie,

I took a supper break. I'm so darn anorexic these days that I have to act quickly when I get an appetite.

Tonight, I made satanic fajitas.

I am very much in favor of separation of church and state.

I'm not sure it makes sense make kids recite a loyalty oath to a piece of silk cloth, though. And the "one nation, under God" part doesn't really work for the kids who believe that the nation is under several Gods, or a Goddess, or under no deity whatsover.

That reminds me of little Bongo's rebellious recital during the Pledge of Allegiance, in Mat Groenings "Life in Hell" comic strip:

I plead alignment to the flakes
of the untitled snakes of a merry cow.
And to the Republicans, for which they scam,
one nacho, underpants,
with licorice and jugs of wine for owls.

The war on Santa Claus seems silly, though. I remember telling my Mom that the spirit of Christams was really about celbrating JEsus, and Love and stuff and she responded: "No it's not--it's about Santa Claus!"

Licorice and jugs of wine for owls!

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Damn it you got me laughing so hard i cant even think..

OMG!!!!

LOL

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OK:

Now that i have my thoughts some what in order..

I have to agree WD we all have our own GOD, yes we do..

But i also think we should have the right to pray in our schools, our homes, our offices, etc..

with out asking the gop permission..
or the president, or the army, national guard whoever...

i beleive I have the right to allow my child to read, listen to , watch, etc.. whatever I feel appropriate..

My child cant read Catcher in the Rye, But we can allow our children to watch disgusting movies on sexual things during heatlth...

Im not the smart one, never claimed to be, Im the one who is the poor you talk about, im the one who is in that catagory of poverty, and not by choice, I went to school, graduated, did college and culinary, but events unfolded in my life that turned me out,

I made my life this way i guess, but I ma not poor enough, nor am i the right brand of people to get any kind of government help..
I make to much money.. 9.00 an hour is to much, to even get help paying for my insulin..

Im not crying the blues, i know i made my life, but damn!! i work just s hard as everyone else, and I cant get the help I pay taxes for...

You splain it!!!!

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Hey WD heres something id like to share..
Read up on SC education levels and grades,
Bush goes to NC, and checks out the Elementary School..

Hmmm?? is that where he feels on the level???

anyway, we all have that no child behind crap!!!!

yeah ok..
Sc is rated 44 in the schools, whats he doin for us here??? Oh yeah thats right, he went to NC..

Then he goes to the Victory Junction Camp,, Well thats a good thing for Kyle Petty, ..
wonder if Bush road a horse...

What id like to know is if we have this policy on education, whos checking out the schools that are WAY WAY below standards?? or is it because the kids here, are black, hispanic, or chinese??? even the whites are minoritys...

splain it.......

President Bush will be in Greensboro, NC where he will participate in a lunch with community leaders, visit a local elementary school, and make remarks on No Child Left Behind at 1:55 p.m. Later this afternoon, the President will visit Victory Junction Gang Camp.

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Hi Kasie,

I am curious what disgusting things your child watched in health class movies.

You wrote: "My child cant read Catcher in the Rye..."

How can you stop a child from reading? Heck, just check out the book yourself and give it to the kid. It is kind of mature reading, but it is one of the classics. That gets banned all the time.

$9.00 an hour sucks. The GOP has fought long and valiantly, doing everything in it's power to prevent increases in the minimum wage, of course.

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My daughter watched a baby being born cesearan, and they showed the most graffic content.. she was in the 9th grad at the time,

Oh yeah permission slips, we signed them, then after my daughter told me about it, i had to go watch it...

Ok, im all for birth control, and knowing about babys being born and all that nonsence,
but they showed EVERYTHING!! we are talking right un to the inside..

I had both my children that way, and it freaked me out..cant imagine what some of those other kids thought..

I beleive I can allow my child to read a classic, but really, why change school guidelines, that book is very good reading, wanted so much for my daughter to learn about it,
kinda like huck finn, hes gone to,

Oh you bet I will make sure my son reads both of them, in school or not,

it just annoys me that they can pick and choose, what we read, who we call, if they can listen to us on our phones, invasion of my privacy,

what the hell, lets put the berlin wall back up, right here!!!

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Have you heard of the Federal Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993 that was signed into law by Bill Clinton?

The GOP fought pretty hard against that one.

In the Senate, 2 democrats and 25 Republicans people voted against the act:

The democrats were from South Carolina and Alabama, of course.

In the House of Representatives 134 republican and 29 democratic congressmen voted against the bill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F....._leave_act

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been wanting to ask??

you said"
Tonight, I made satanic fajitas

what are they made of???

fire roasted chicken, peppers, onions? some ash? little pitch forks, and a few horns???

wrapped in red totillas???

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President Bush has broken his promise to fully fund the No Child Left Behind law. So far, the funding is $40 billion short.

We had to spend the money on depleted uranium ammunition and tax cuts for the super-rich.

http://edworkforce.house.gov/d.....ainfo.html

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