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Equality for All
January 20, 2003
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Hi Everyone,
Today's holiday, Martin Luther King Day causes me to think about our freedom and equality.

As a woman, I can say that we are still struggling for equality. As a child, when I first heard Dr. Martin Luther King's speech "I have a Dream" , I didn't realize at the time how unfair our society of the USA were to other cultures or for that matter Women. It wasn't until high school that I realized that women were subserviant to men. It was because of this awareness that I pursued a careers in several nontraditional occupations. The pay was great, but the physical labor very difficult for me as a woman.
When I later heard that Rosa ? disputed sitting in the rear of a bus....I was horrified. When I heard that some people were made to drink out of separate drinking fountains...I was in disbelief. Some weren't allowed in restaurants.
I am not sure of the politically correct usage of terms....I just know in my heart that we are all created equal. I think that to see the unequalities of our past should help us focus on changing our perspectives today. What do you think?

January 21, 2003
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Does it bother any body that women get paid 71 -74cents to the dollar that a man makes?

January 22, 2003
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our economics professor said that the gap will slowly close, becuase its not profitable for eomployers to discriminate.
so if women can show the same capability as men (maybe they do, i dont know, i wont say yes or no, cause i dont have evidence to back it.. sorry.. no offense, i'm just saying "maybe". maybe women might be better workers, i just dont know).

well thats what he said, that the gap will close.. my brain isnt thinking anything right now, so thats all i'll say.
economists say price difference is also stabled out over time, cause its no profitable.

January 22, 2003
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How many women here have a problem dating a guy with equal or less income? I'm not talking about a trophy date, I mean a average looking guy with no extra bells and whistles.

January 22, 2003
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Good Point EXJOE!
In all my dating years, I rarely dated anyone who made less than I. Probably once....because I had money of my own and paid for most of our dates. Okay, So that is why in our society, men pay for the dates! šŸ˜‰
They make more money!

Unfortunately, when a divorce happens the courts order spousal support for a few years while wife is trying to start a career. I have noticed most wifes end their careers if hubby needs more support in his. Women usually can get a part-time job while the kids are in school. Have you talked to single parents lately? They say day-care takes up most of their earnings so it doesn't pay to have the wife work for the increase in taxes.

Remember, woman use to stay home and take care of the house, children and hubby. Most women I know, work, take care of the house, children and hubby and still make less than hubby.

I have had a few male friends who had custody of their children. They worked and handled the home and children.

I liked it when the courts started awarding men child support. Now that is equality too!

January 22, 2003
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Between the sexes, inequalities go both ways. Trying to focus on who is getting a 'rough deal' over all is a futile undertaking that leads to further discontent on both sides. This statement is not intended to imply the maintenance of the status quo!

I think the main issue is not about how men treat women or how women treat men, but rather about how human beings treat each other - irrespective of race, sex, color, creed or nationality. Of course then follows the question of 'why'!

Focussing on narrowly defined, albeit huge, injustices is how Hitler rose to power in Nazi Germany in the 1930's.

Have a great day y'all. šŸ˜‰

January 23, 2003
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I think that whilst the focus on 'women's rights' was necessary and commendable, we have now reached the point where men are becoming the 'downtrodden'. I think that most men are now confused about their role in society (Do I hold the door open for the woman on the first date or will she think that's sexist? Do I offer to pay for dinner or will she think that I'm saying that she's not independent enough to have money of her own? etc) and I think that the image we are projecting to young boys is in a sense that 'males are bad' (after all we're bombarded with thoughts that males are the ones that rape, males are the ones that commit more murders, males are the ones that commit more crime, males are the ones who are most aggressive etc). It's great to say 'females are good and that females should be equals', but that's just it...equal means equal and should be about bring women UP, not about bring men DOWN.

January 24, 2003
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Equal is not really "the same", is it? I mean, you'd also want to treat your children fair and equal, but often you can't treat them the same, because they aren't.

For me personally, money seems so often not to be something you buy things whith, but a symbol of power and status. And to me it seems that men thrife much more on power and status than women do. Or women choose (or: are educated/forced to choose) different things to define their status? I think that the western world has a lot of "high priority values" that seem rather male oriented. But then - do I think that money, power, status, and working your ass off until you drop dead of cardiac failure are valuable goals for all mankind? No, not really, not even if the TV, marketing, and political campaigns tell us so 24/7!

I think that our society has to rethink about what we find valuable. And some of the things that women do a lot, or are supposed to be good at, should make it to the top of the list in my opinion: educating kids, sharing time, being compassionate, being diplomatic and trying find compromises....

I don't really think that gross materialism is male. But the strategies behind materialism make use of mechanisms that work better for men than for women. So if *they* pull men in, they'll have to discredit women - to make it look even better.

January 24, 2003
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Eve.

Good stuff!!

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