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May 14, 2003
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nothing, Squeezles, it was a short paper on EQ, couple of pages.. we just filled them up to get a grade.

May 14, 2003
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Namaste, Squeezles.

It does.

Do you find that scientific writing is often opaque and open to the examination of only those who have been 'initiated?' (By that I mean those who have been to grad school for MAs and PhDs.)

Do you find that science has been thrown like a suffocating cover over the disciplines of art, religion and social sciences (including politics.) Is there an aspect of western science which refuses to deal with what cannot in some fashion be materially measured? For instance, 'psychology,' which is he study of the soul. In your view can the soul be quantified rigorously enough for western science to be able to 'study' it? Does western science dismiss what it cannot quantify, thus more or less collapsing a four-dimensional universe into a one-dimensional universe?

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May 15, 2003
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I saw this and thought of your discussion.

You can take an EI test on this site. It's pretty short, although there is a longer one you can pay for if you want. I was rated above average, yippee!!

http://www.queendom.com/tests/index.html

May 15, 2003
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Tracylyn - I'm not sure how 'scientific' that measure is, but it is interesting nevertheless.

Nikka - No I certainly don't think it is impossible for non-scientifically educated people to understand scientific writing. I do, however, think that training in that area certainly ENHANCES understanding. I'm not really sure I understand what you are trying to have me say. It seems as though you want me to say that I think that academics/scientists are 'elitest'. Well I find that sort of attitude repulsive and I certainly DON'T subscribe to that view.

In answer to your other question. Firstly, how do YOU define the 'soul'? I view the 'soul' as having 'religious' rather than scientific conatations. I disagree, I don't think Psychology is 'the study of the soul'. I think Psychology is the study of human and animal behaviours so that we may understand the underlying mental and emotional processes and causes for that behaviour. I think the realm of "Philosophy" deals more with the 'soul'. I've never been interested in Philosophy, so I've never studied it. Para-psychology is an accepted field within psychology that deals with elements that cannot be adequately quantifiable.

May 16, 2003
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Namaste, Squeezles.

I was asking you questions. Your answers are your own and I was only interested in hearing them. Of course, if one listens well to a question then one might see or form an opinion of what area the questioner is interested in, perhaps even what 'slant' the questioner has on what is being questioned.

You say that behavior study might (the implication I took from you words is 'will') give us insight into the underlying emotions which cause the behavior. How can that occur, if one studies behavior which is a surface study by your definition? Can one study a surface and extrapolate from that what occurs or doesn't under that surface? Seems like a conundrum to me.

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Nikka and Squeezles.

My understanding of interpretation of the Greek word upon which the word 'psyche' is derived is 'the soul'. The greek word 'logos' means 'of the mind'. So the derivation of '-ology' means as I understand it 'the study of'. Thus I think Nikka is right is saying that literally speaking the word 'psychology' means 'the study of the soul'. I also realise that the practice is very different.

I didn't interprete Nikka's writings to mean that she saw academics as being 'elitest'.

I remember discussing her point years ago at uni with a PHD holding psych lecturer. He said that I needed to take a multi disciplined approach to find the answers to my questions. It seemed to me at the time that the uni texts were very shallow and broad in that they concentrated on symptomatic behavior rather than risk taking dives into the depths of the human psyche looking for causes - depth psychology being a possible exception.

The Psych Dept's fixation on writing papers - therein producing statistically based correlations between variables based upon probabilities rather than seeking causations at depth - frustrated me no end. I remember having to read a paper on the results of research into when children find eating dog turds and ground up grass hoppers repulsive. I realize that some seen and unforeseen purpose lies behind such studies. Therein, I can also take Nikka's point regarding the obscuration of much deeper issues often being the unfortunate consequence for humanity.

However, I am eternally grateful to the uni for enhancing the discriminatory powers of my intellect in regard to 'crap detection'. At the same time they showed me the severe limitations of restricting one's self to that which lies within the scope of the intellect as a way of 'knowing'.

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