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Does God Have NPD?
December 22, 2005
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NPD=Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Does "the God of Abraham" suffer from NPD?

Does Jesus have the personality of the child of a Narcissist?

December 22, 2005
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Three or four answers.

First of all, someone who does not exist cannot have NPD.

Secondly, GOd is not described as a himan being so Im not sure DSM_IV criteria apply.

Finally, what the heck.....

Well, the traits of NPD are largely about lack of empathy, grandiosity, and tendency to blame others...

God belives he created the entire universe, he did not help me make my bed this morning, and apparently it was because of MY sins that his son died, so maybe you have something there.

December 22, 2005
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"Worried Dad",
Maybe we should have more "Worried Preachers"! *lol*

December 23, 2005
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maybe we should hope to not get struck by lightening for blasphemy???
Who knows?

December 23, 2005
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I am particularly hurt and resentful about the bedmaking thing. What, creator of the universe, no sparrow shall fall, but I still can't get him to help out with the housework? What's that about?

December 23, 2005
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I don't make my kids' beds. It's called being responsible. New concept? Besides.... just think how tired he would be if he had to go all thru the universe and make everyone's beds. Might get compared to Santa or the Tooth Fairy if he did that. 🙂

December 23, 2005
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Wait.... 2nd thought.

Maybe if we would give him the credit and love he deserves... Maybe then he would come and make your bed for you.

Hmmm there's a thought. 🙂

December 23, 2005
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Wait.... 2nd thought.

Maybe if we would give him the credit and love he deserves... Maybe then he would come and make your bed for you.

Hmmm there's a thought. 🙂

December 23, 2005
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I think my 2nd thought got stuck. lol

December 23, 2005
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That's it! The Tooth fairy! Why didn't I think of that? Does she do vacuuming?

December 23, 2005
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ROFL!!!!!

You guys are hysterical!

You think the Easter Bunny does windows????

December 23, 2005
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New Concept....

YA'LL HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS.

After Christmas ya'll are invited to my house to clean it for me. Wd can do the vacuuming and TC can do the windows. I'll make lunch. 🙂

Any other talented folks are welcome to come too. Still need the dusting, moping, kitchen and bath cleaned.

December 23, 2005
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Hey and who made the work week five days and the weekends two???

I want to vote to have them switched but with the same pay!

What do you all think about that???

Bel

December 23, 2005
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Actually...HE gives us the bed, teaches us how to make it and we can sleep in it or sleep on the floor.

Merry Christmas everyone, He is the reason for the season....

check this out it is so cute.

http://www.reuters.hu/card_dom.....ntent.html

December 23, 2005
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This is my kinda thread!

The Christian God were he to exist would be a sadist of the worst order.

I take the more reasonable view that if 'He' exists then he certainly has no head, arms, brain, penis, balls or rectum. What then would there be to contain such a God's deluded self-identity?

If God is the 'boundariless all' that is the All, then there can be no separating God from that which is 'other than God'. This implies that God is the supreme 'masochist'and therefore likes suffering on a massive scale. This certainly is a megalithic personality disordered God.

December 23, 2005
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If He made your bed, He'd be codependent.

December 23, 2005
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Worried Dad,

Hello again. As previously, we strongly disagree, this time about God, but this time I don't feel compelled to persuade you to change your mind about it.

I do see some humor in your posts. Maybe it would be more apparent if you put smiley faces after certain lines. :o)

And I was wrong on the other thread -- I think you do have a conscience.

I want to leave you with a thought to ponder: Maybe we are training in this life to become gods and godesses in the next. If we can't learn to make our beds here, how will we ever be able to create worlds in the afterlife? :o)

mamac:

I'll be happy to do the "moping" at your house. Actually, I'll be sad to do the moping, as I'm always sad when I mope. (You meant "mopping", of course.) LOL

turnabout:

Good point about God and codependency! Maybe the Easter Bunny would make WD's bed, though: I've heard he's in a 12-hop recovery program. LOL

Tez:

Hello again, from the guy who didn't fit your stereotype!

December 23, 2005
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Seekerw,

Well I haven't really expressed a serious opinion about God here so I am not sure what your disgreement with me is.

December 24, 2005
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Worried Dad,

You posted in your first post here:

{First of all, someone [referring to the God of Abraham] who does not exist cannot have NPD.

...

God belives he created the entire universe, he did not help me make my bed this morning, and apparently it was because of MY sins that his son died, so maybe you have something there.
}

You obviously do not believe in the God of Abraham, or if you do, you mock him and make light of him. Am I wrong to infer this?

December 24, 2005
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Is God NPD

Absolutely!!!

It stands for Notably Perfect Deity right guys?

December 24, 2005
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Absolutely right Y&R... good observation and title.

December 24, 2005
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Hi seeker,

I don't think I could really explain my spiritual beliefs in a brief essay.

But I can tell you this.

When I became an awakened spiritual person, I was probably closest to Native American, especially Northwest Native in my beliefs--that is, my spiritual life centered on my perception in the interconnectedness of all life and creation. That perception was consistent with my study of science.

As recently as seven years ago I used to call myself an esoteric atheist. That is to say, I didn't believ in God because God told me not to.

But I grew out of that phase, too.

Now, as a reformed esoteric Pastafarian, I believe that any spiritual belief system that encourages ethical behavior has some value and dignity. But I also believe that in order to speak well about how human beings think about God, and practice their beliefs, it is important to maintain a vigourous sense of humor.

So my response to the question about the God of Abraham neccesarily had some humor. You see, I don't think it is very nice to accuse someone's perception of deity as being mentally ill, sick and wrong. So I felt it appropriate to point out the ridiculousness of the question--if Zinnia really is making a point that God has NPD then I reasoned that he/she probably does not believe in the diety they are questioning. And how can you accuse someone who does exist of being personality disordered.

And if there is a unique creatopr of the universe, I don't think it makes sense to apply human psychology to them Anyone who could make the universe is probably a very very clever fellow with all kinds of things going on that we really would never comprehend--you know, like maintaining the fabric of the spacetime continuum and stuff.

But, by way of being a good sport I though the question deserved an answer. Since narcissists tend to be grandiose, lacking in empathy, and with a tendency to blame others.

If you look at it that way, what could be more grandiose than claiming responsibility for the entire universe? What could be a better display of lack of empathy than requiring Abraham to sacrifice his child, or killing almost everything on eart with a flood, or sending your own child to die for someone's sins? That list goes on and on. And what could be more innappropriate blame than for an omnipotent person to claim that the behavior of people who were not even born yet necessiatated the death of their son, who could have been saved by the omnipotent parent.

Finally, the meta content of my post was addressing the meta content of Zinnia's post. Namely, the idea that some of the behavior attributed to "God" in the bible really do not seem to be the acts of someone who could be described as wise and loving.

Personally, I believe the creator of the Universe is good buddies with the God of Abraham and does not mind him taking credit for the universe, failing to emphasize the importance of pirate regalia, etc. For HE is a forgiving Spaghetti Monster.

May the comfort of his noodly appendage be upon you. Ramen.

December 24, 2005
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Y&R,

I concur with mamac: Brilliant, Y&R, brilliant!

Why do I bother wasting lengthy paragraphs getting into serious, careful explanations when a three-line humorous rejoinder would work a thousand times more effectively. And be funny to boot!

I'm going to try to lighten up more.

December 24, 2005
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WD,

"Now, as a reformed esoteric Pastafarian,"

Ouch! Sounds like it hurts. :o) (See, I put in a smiley face to show I'm being humorous. Otherwise, you might think I'm being flippant, or insensitive, or changing the subject.)

"I believe that any spiritual belief system that encourages ethical behavior has some value and dignity."

We agree completely on this, in spite of the fact that our views on God appear to be vastly different. I'm a Christian who believes the Bible when it says we'll be judged according to our works (i.e., what we do, say, and think).

"But I also believe that in order to speak well about how human beings think about God, and practice their beliefs, it is important to maintain a vigourous sense of humor."

Again, I request you add smiley faces to indicate humor. Sometimes the audience can't tell when they're expected to laugh!

I'm sorry, but the rest of your post is just too deep and heavy for me to get into. Besides, I didn't want to get drawn into any involved discussions on this thread.

I'm trying to learn how to loosen up more!

December 24, 2005
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Worried dad.
Well I am certain you were made in god's image - clever and full of wise words. (Shakespeare's 'Seven Ages Of Man'. I know you have been hurt in ways like me and you may seek for more compassion. I lost my son this year and a hole opened up in my soul - yes I am fearful of life and what it serves up to some of us daily.
I would like to leave you with this--------------
Cannon Roy Blake, former Vicar of Purton Church Wiltshire - England, prepared a sermon before his death to be delivered at his memorial service in February this year.

"What made me a Christian, then? --- Mozart first, then nature - I loved my garden and walking on the Ridgeway or in the Cotswolds. A beautiful day in the country was like a smile on the face of God. My love of Wordsworth who wrote: 'And I have felt a presence that disturbs me with the job of elevated thoughts - whose dwelling is light of setting suns, and the round ocean and living air, and the blue sky...'.

" Traditional reasons for belief carry no weight for me, but I am a man haunted by Jesus Christ. It is Jesus Christ who makes belief in God possible. My faith was an ever questioning faith. We live confronted by mysteries - I remain suspicious of any faith that presents itself as a system of certainties."

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