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Does "Energy" have the ability to travel through our thoughts?
July 23, 2005
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Just thinking here.

Do you think it is possible to feel thoughts from another person without being around them? I beleive in energy, and beleive it is waht we are made of, and that our thoughts are powerful.

I sometimes, out of the blue am reminded of an old friend, etc. It has been suggested to me that people are able to \'send" thoughts, or if extrememly connected to someone, can feel the pull of their thoughts.

Any comments, ideas?

July 24, 2005
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Hi..
I happen to believe that we have the ability to have energy through thoughts.
I have had waaaay tooo many "things" occur to not believe this. Like when someone I havent seen for a really long time just shows up somewhere, and theyre nor even sure why they have gone there, untilwe see each other.
How I get a hunch, follow up on it, and BOOM there is the answer to the hunch. There are some folks in my life that i have had such an amazing connection with that we seem to have an energetic bond.
A lot of twins have this bond witheach other, a lot of Mothers have this energy, like they know when their child is hurt, upset etc, and they can be miles and miles away.
I can go out with my J, and we can be silent for a moment, and I'll look at him and say a mutual friends name... and within 10 minutes that person walks in the door. ((It really freaks J out when "I do this" But hes seen it happen very often with me. I dont know what it is exactly, but Ive gotten used to it, and dont really queation it anymore, but I often wonder...

July 24, 2005
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It is intersting aw isin't it? Thanks for sharing your perspective..you must have some very strong intuitive abilities. But I do beleive the key is "connection" of some sort. I just do notknow whether to follow through on them or not. I generally ignore them, because I ahve been so feeling based in the past, and it has gottne me into trouble.

I do have a connection to someone, have had extrememly strong pulls to contact them. But when I sent out another message, not to turn them away, but to give a more logical message, the draw subsided quite a bit.

I am not quite cetain I understand this wholly, but I can't ignore my intuition at times.

July 24, 2005
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Well, one person I was REALLY "connected To' Now sadly has a MAJOR heroin addiction and has been in and out of jail for most of his adult life.
It was gut wrenching to hear about, but I had t ocut ties. We'd groen up together since like 3rd grade, Hed come over my house then, and not to hang out with me, but to talk to my mom, aout his own Drug/multiple addicted mom, ((who died from a "bad batch" of somethinbg when we were in 7th grade) We'd always find each other in random places, Id get an urge to just go somewhere random, and there hed be, but ya' know, he just kept going down a terrible path ,and I could no longer connect with that, but i somehow still know when hes doing okay, or in a certai narea, its still odd , and mysterous to me, becasue certain fokls will mention oh"M____ was over here..." or weird stuff, and I know.
But i cannot allow myself to be anywhere near him now, and as sad as it makes me, as tragic as his life is, mostly from his own choices now, IF there is a shred of the old M___, that i knew left in him, he stil feels my presence and prayers within him too, the way i do him.

The odd thing is, about 2 months ago, during the last time J "disappeared"
I KNEW M_____ was nearby, I didnt know how, or why I just felt it very strongly, and lo and behold, J's ex,(Jakes Mom) caled me to check in, she started gossiping about her friend "Sally" whom Ive known since 2nd grade, and she said" Well, sally is hooked up with M_____ again because blah blah blah, and hes living in her basement, In _____ (MY TOWN!!!!)
I didnt even tell her a word, J's ex, is a "piece of work" to say the least, who entertains herswelf by gossiping to people about how bad they are, tryingto paint a better picture of herself...(((I have big issues with that crap, reminds me tooo much of petty, catty high school stuff, etc.)but i do have to tlk t oJs ex, because my step son is involved, But I knew i was right about M____ being close by, and LUCKILY, I have cut tyeswith him etc.
I told my mom, because she oten wonders how he is, if hes alive etc, but we both have no real way of letting him into our lives now at this point, but we do wonder, and its weird as soon as one of us thinks about him, we hear something about it him. My mom being a classic neurotic CODEP wanted ot help "fix Him" as a child, and I learned that behavior from her ((save that topic for another thread) but it doesnt dismiss the connection/bond. With hindsight being 20/20, I was smart to cut ties, but the bond is still there, as distorted as it may have become from his life choices.

Im very over tired, and starting to ramble a tad too much for me to continue tyoing... but Im glad you started this thread.
I'll research some intuition theories and studies and "Stuff" and get back to you on this one.
sweet dreams!!!
~AW

July 24, 2005
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Hi Omw,

Isn't this telepathy? The ability to feel and know what someone thinks or is thinking about right now?

July 24, 2005
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Ras, i think there is a fine line...as i am totally unable to know what someone is thinking...and have gotten myself in a mess before thinking that i did know, as i came across as insensitive, jusdgemental, or just plain wrong.

this is a different message...i can't explain it, but as aw says, it is a "connection". i don't know enough about it to know how to explain it, i just know it is there. i do not know how it gets there, but there are times, certain people have this effect on me. I can be extremely busy at work or even at home, and boom! it is there, so deep and strong...or a memeory will just pop in at the most unexpected times without any one thing around to jar a memory. my heart is pulled so hard. but if i counteract it with a diifferent thought it decreases. it has happened to me many times before, but i never paid too much attention to it. and then of coure there are my dreams.

i also stay connected to God and only beleive he allows what is allowed for me...all a part of my path with him.

i also beleive that dreams are spoken, i beleive he also speaks through dreams...at least for me this is so.

i could chalk up the dreams to a subconscious thing, but i know deep, deep inside thta it is more than this. i beleive dreams are planted and atthe right time they come into fruition...sort of like deferred hope, which is different than unrealsistic hope. and i count on God to let me know or show me differently, because as i said, to many times in the past i have not sought him first nor included him, and i end up in such emotional upheavel.

i beleive that we are made up of energy as God created the universe through his energy and creativity and his Power...he made man with just as much creativity and much intelligence. to limit that, which i do at times is not realistic for any of us to do.

as i said i do not understand the logistics of it , i only know it is a PULL, and a thought process that is there, and i trust it. to ACT upon it may not be the right time, but i know it is there nonetheless.

so i thought i would put out a thread to see if anyone else expereinces this.

have you ever?

July 24, 2005
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I personally thinjk that we are ALL connected, that we share this earth and our suroundings, that it comes from us and we from it and so on...what is that saying about man not being the spider but a thread in its web? I think some people are just aware of things pertaining to one another on the same level, and that as we are all so connected, it must chanel through, if that makes sense. LIke, if you hollor out into a crowded room loudly enough, eventually the person you qwhere hollering to is going to think they heard their name and start looking for YOU TOO.

July 24, 2005
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good point ef.

not to make fun of, but the crowd example reminds me of penguins. if you have ever noticed, penguins travel in packs. and when they go to feed, there are hundreds of them. the male will travl to the ocean to find food for its mate. without calling, even though the female penguin has moved from her spoit where he left her, he knows EXACTLY where she is and goes to her.

i thought this amazing as they all look alike, and it is just amazing anyway in its own right.

July 24, 2005
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Omw,

I believe in telepathy. Some fundamental Christians claim to be sinful though. But anyway. It is like this what happens with me is that I am somewhere busy and all of a sudden start to think about somebody, that somebody ends up calling me. Alsmost same as you described what happens with you. Similar to intuition.

I hope Lady V will see this thread. She is very clever in these matters.

Honey, how are you doing. I have been keeping you in my prayers.

I hope to God you're feeling better. Guess we are all in the same boat with these baffling feeligns.

(((Hugs)))

July 24, 2005
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Ras, thanks for asking, and thanks so much for your prayers. It always moves my heart so much whenI know someone is praying for me.

i am doing ok. some of the threads i have been readong this mmorning have helped. in Support threads there is one named "Nature vs. Nurture...at its best"...they both describe, but esp. the second one, my relationship with my friend,andi don't think i understood until now...but this is exactly the way he was...and, i was the one who always called. i never understood. so it is important that i not call. cannot take the chance right now.

otherwise, God is doing some great things in my life. my middle and younger son are doing better, but my oldest, needs so much prayer. he has been such a strong Christian, has loved God all of his life, but has walked away for the last 3 yrs, and now he is in spiritual trouble so deeply. he knows but is powerless to act.

hope you are ok? intersting experience you speak of..see, i beleive in this, and i beleive it is God-given, and gives us just what we need to pursue or learn more. i don't fret as i used too, nor am i afraid of the outcome, at lesat i know thta waht ever happens now is for my good. i can look back and see how God has protected me, he has truly been the father i never had. funny, my friend and i have been kept apart for going on 8 months now, but i beleive it is for a reason.

July 24, 2005
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aw,

how are you coming along with your research? i am ready when you are!

RAS, re: LadyV..have not sen her around for a long while.

July 24, 2005
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Omw,

I miss my friend as badly as you miss yours. I pray to God if he is not the right person to take me away from this town ASAP. Everything in my area reminds me of him. The streets, the restaurants he invited me to, the possibililty of passing by each other paralyzes me. I told God if he is the right person to prompt him to call me and vice versa.
I have to trust God that if he is the right person, he will call me at the right time, not before even though I miss him like crazy. Yet, I have learned to suppress my feelings and submit the whole situation to the Lord.

I understand your pain very well, honey since I am living thru it. However, if we do Not experience this pain and distress, how else can we grow? God wants to grow you, me and our friends. I am sure if they are the right men for us, God is chastizing them right now. I told my friend very clearly that if he wants to continue being my friend, he has to give his heart to the LORD! This is the only boundary I have requested from him. Let's see how wise and smart he is.

Each time I miss him, I start to pray and recite scripture. It is very debilitating process. But in this process, we will grow stronger. And If our friends are listening to the voice of God, they are being disciplined by HIM & God will prompt them to call us if they are the right ones for us.

In Stormie's book, she talks about the period when she and her hubby Mike were dating. She says that when Mike stopped calling her, she resisted calling him no matter how lonely she felt. You see many women go thru what we are going thru right now.

Isn't that we you and I, Hsb, and the rest are battling with?

I will keep you in my prayers and your 3 sons as well. Please keep me in your prayers.

~Love, RAS~

July 24, 2005
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thanks, RAS, yep I understand the pain. Ther ehas been a lot of leting go for me,there is not so much anxiety or pain. Infact I am willing to be willing so to speak, to accept what ever is brought before me. Funny how we know when it is time to let go and move forward emotionally. And yes many have gone through the same. Thankfully I am not falling apart anymore, and I donot worry about having to find out what God's Will is. I used to think I reallyhad to DO something...but even now I am being shwn not too...it all works itself out, yes? So thanks for your loving concern,and reference to Stormie's book.

So hang in, would like to hear more of your friend, as I know you have been hurt but I do not remember what your relatonship was like or why you broke up?

July 24, 2005
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OMW, Well, in my case I am more healthy than him. He has number of issues, baggage. If he does not handle and work on them, he will take them out on me. So, if our relationship is to continue, he needs 1st to give his heart to the Lord, 2nd work on his healing and recovery.

We continue to have friendly relationship, he knows that I like him. I stopped calling him ever since last November when he told me that he was living with gf.

Last year, he lost his job, it was followed by his depression and low self-esteem. He went thru so much, I sympathize with him. However, ever since last Nov, I stopped calling him. It was not easy not to call him, I really had to seek the Lord's help to help me in this process. And He did help me INDEED as I am sure he will help you, 2B, Hsb and the other dear cyber friends here.

I am releasing the whole situation to the Lord, asking HIM if that guy is the right one, that he will contact me at the right time.

The only infuriating thing about it is WAITING. Nobody likes waiting. However, PATIENCE is one of the fruits of the spirit that is VERY RARELY appreciated in our society.

Very seldom when we hear someone praising waiting and patience. These 2 qualities are considered as by-product of old vanished stone-age time.

As Christians, patience is a great quality!!!

July 24, 2005
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Ras, let me ask you this...

after all that you have learned and read here, along with your beleifs in God, what does your deepest instict tell you about this person?

i do not question you at all do not get me wrong. WAITING...do you know what you are waiting for besides the obvious as you stated above, what your expectations are. what if God has a different idea? are you boxing yourself in? what if God's idea is the other way around...work on himself first come to know God in God's timing not yours, in order for you be with him. does this make sense?

i only say these things to make you think...my perception, or maybe you have done and are not willing to settle for anything but what you state.

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me thinksyou just answeed my question on the "Denial" thread! 🙂

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That's why I said I am releasing the whole situation to God. I am open to new relationship, even though I like him. He needs to do his homework. If he does not, I will NOT accept him.
You see, I give people chance. If they succed great, if not, I move on.

I am not putting ALL my hopes on him, on the contrary, I am praying for God's will in this relationship.

I hope I made things clear.

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I didnt find too much that wasnt trying t osell me some cockamaimie thingy, so I'll keep looking,
wish I knew a medinie man healer type or two to just call or visit to tlalk about all this with.
A lot of pre christian religions talk a lot about the energies and listening to things like the wind, temperatures following the planetary movements and pulls and pushes of the moon etc, but as far as specifics go, Im not sure or schooled or well read enough to feel comfortable elaborating on most of it.... I'll keep looking though....

July 25, 2005
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aw, the wholeuniverseis made out of energy and energy producing substances, agreed?

i beleive in negative energy, as i pick up on that around some people before i know them, and i beleive in positive energy, which is why i and others are so energized after a church meeting...positive energy, God, angels...no negative energy that has power. Boy I wish I could feel that way ALL of the time!!!!!!!!!!!

But anyway, transferring that energy..i think you established that, or at least feeling that energy through a connection, is possible. If I am thinking about someone I have known personally & deeply, is it possible they feel me thinking about them? REason I ask is because I have been told that this is what is happening to me...I am feeling someone's thoughts.

And after all of this, it really does not matter, unless anyone else is intersted in this thread.

So thanks so much for your ideas>

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Well, an interesting thing happened today.
I went ot my moms anbd she told me she went in the basement and felt like sheshould look in one of my storage totes full of old Books.
she didnt know why, butshe pickedup one book in particular, and began flippingthrouhg it.
And then, This picture Of M____ fell out of it!!!
Along with my ex boyfriend B_____'s Olddrivers licenses.
I couldnt believe it!!11
I then told her how "Mama" and I were JUSttalking about B_'s Mom THIS MORNING, and how I was talking about M______ yesterday. and we talked a little bit about the tow of them and then we changed the subject. She put both of those items in an envelope and put them in a bag with some of my mail.

I was like HMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, very interesting.

I do also know that there is a lot of negative energy out there being tossed all over the place. I get a "vibe" from certain people that sends shivers down my spine.
My friends doggy, Linus gets this way too. And this dog is like a Buddah, the most mellow, calm, reagl chillin dog Ive ever met, but once in a while he gets the bad vibe from someone and either gets really nervous or barks in a stance that says stay away from my momma"
Its weird, but really fascinating.

Im sure some people can think about you so intently to the point we pick up on it.
Like when When my mom calls me,i swear the phone has a certain ringto it... Or Right before the phne rings Im go to pick up the phone and who ever it is is just who I was thinking of. It can happen in both positive and negative ways. ((thats why caller ID is worth EVERY penny!!!!)) LOl.
There was a group of people I knew briefly, and they were shady, intopractical Magik, andthey liked ot Mess wit hengergies andplay games with people. They were bad. SO It took some time and effort, but I didnt allow them to hang on me like bad staic cling. I did a little meditatig and they are no longe an issue. Karma is alo good for this. "what is done in the dark, shall come to light." a friend of mine used ot say, and I believe that one too.

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oh... if youre feeling a pull from someone youve been trying to cut ties withand feeling a draw, it could be that they are getting it, and thinking about it. i mean since youve been acting on thoughts andself improvement, you have less time and room for things and people you want to detach from. This could be a closure kind of vibe, a test t oyour need to detach, let go.
I mean some people are only in our lives for a little while, that happens. But they are still living and breathing and have their own energy to sort out, so if you catch a drift of this sometimes I think It is "normal" ((whatever normal is))
IF this is someone you need to detach from you could do something like write it down an a piece of paper.
Like their name, reasons you are letting go, concentrating on the letting go part and the poutcome you need/want from this decision to let go.

When you are done writing this, fold the paper up, even tie it up with a ribbon or duct tape((depending on how much you need this person to give you some peace already, and then either bury it in the ground somewhere, burn it, throw it in the ocean, taking a deeeep cleansing breath in and ouuuuuut, and right beofre you toss it, bury it, etc, say "Leave me alone!!!"
Or"Ive let this go, now go in peace."
or "piss off you jerk"
Ya' know whatever suits the situation.

It can not only work well for you literally, but it is quite a cleansing exercise.
dont let the negative vibes of some one elses baggage steal your thunder.

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But I don't want to lose this person. I would be thrilled if he were thinking about me after all of this time. But I sent back thoughts not to make it go away,, but thoughts that definitley said, it can't be the way it was before. I want this person back in my life.....IF indeed this is what is happening...which is why I asked> but when I began to say what I said, it is not as frequent or intense...I am just not ready for it now. Or maybe I am looney. And I don't beleive that I hae this much control over my life either...I sort of give that to my Higher Power.

I too have urges to check out differnt boxes I have stored away, turn on the radio, or even a book in the Bible is brought to mind...just out of the blue...ALWAYS what I need to see and hear at that moment, it never fails.

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forgot to ask,,,how do people MESS with other's energies??

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oh, how we like to dream...course one never knows...and I prefer to dream, adn think positively. I guess this thread may sound a little strange to some. But if someone has the conviction to move ahead with hope and confidence, what harm is that? Life offers us somuch more than we can perceive in our own little minds.

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Hello all you wonderful people!

There is this really cool book called "Sixth Sense" by Stuart Wilde. There are some parts of it that are pretty far off the wall, but the parts that are good are really good.

Anyway, in this book, he presents some actual scientific evidence to support something called "thought jumping" where you come into contact with a person, and their thought(s) which are forms of energy, "jump" due to an attraction to the other person's energy and so you end up knowing what they were thinking about.

He also makes a reference to this website called reversespeech.com. His take on reverse speech is that the subconscious finds a way to express itself by projecting its energy through our speech. Check out the site if you have speakers on your computer. It's a trip!!!

And I have to say that after I read about it, I did some experiments with family members where I would use the computer to record them during a conversation where we would touch upon personally controversial topics, then we would play the recording backward. There was intelligible phrases in every single recording.

In one of them, my niece who was going through a hard time, started talking about how frustrated she felt about her parent's marriage and all the pressure she was under as a cheerleader, and to make perfect grades, have the perfect body, etc. When we listened to her recording backward, you could clearly hear her say "I don't even care if I survive this life."

Trippy...

Love to all!!!

Ren'ai

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