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Do we all go to heaven?
September 10, 2003
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yep when I told my mom about dad she confronted him so I give her credit for that. But my father told me I broke up the family and of course I believed it and then I found out I was not the only dtr going through that so mom was aware of what he was capeable of but at least she ended it with me. I did try to talk with mom after my father said he blamed me for all and mom didnt want to hear any of it or how I felt so my feelings had to go back into hiding and so now its really hard for me to show much of any emoition at times I feel like a robot. I think your role playing might work with me too sometime.

September 10, 2003
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There is a song out called "I Can Only Imagine" that talks about what it will be like one day in heaven. The group who sings it is called Mercy Me. They play it on the christian station here but also on the secular one. Has anyone else heard it before?

September 10, 2003
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TS I have never heard it but would like to...I will keep my ears out for it. Thanks

September 10, 2003
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Sure Bel! Just let me know when you want to do the role playing, okay?

September 11, 2003
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ok

September 11, 2003
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Bel......just wanted to say that I'm soooo sorry......for your pain...I really am. I understand it....

September 11, 2003
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ladeska want to try now?

September 11, 2003
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Yup! Ready when you are!

September 11, 2003
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Hm,m,m.......where did Bel go?

September 14, 2003
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My feelings are - that we all go to heaven dispite ourselves.

Forgiveness cannot be condiional- it would be like oil on water.

Be not afraid - just ask for our Lord

September 15, 2003
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A Nice Cat Story.

There once was a Sadist who kept breeding little kittens so he could torture them.

If, as they grew up, the kittens endured the torture and didn't, as fully grown cats, become totally aggressive and strike back, then eventually this sadist would 'retire' the 'nice', co-operative old cats to a special place where they could have all the love, care and milk that they desired. This was a kind of 'cat heaven'.

If, on the other hand, a kitten became vicious when it matured, then the Sadist would lock it up with other vicious cats in a confined space wherein all the vicious cats would tear each other to pieces. This was a kind of 'cat hell'.

One day some thinking person reported this Sadist to the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Society who then mounted a court action against this Sadist.

In the court the Sadist, through his very eloquent barrister, pleaded that he needed to fulfil his sadistic desires. The Sadist tried to justify his tormenting behavior by pointing out that the cats had free-will to choose to either become vicious or to remain benign and accepting. The sadist pointed out the wonderful cat heaven that awaited the 'nice' cats and played down the 'cat hell'. Whilst admitting to it, he tried to shift the court's focus away from it as much as possible.

So... the wise judge accepted the argument that the Sadist's provision of a choice of a 'cat heaven' or a 'cat hell' placed the responsibility for the consequences for the cats' squarely on the individual cat's heads. The judge commended the capricious Sadist for providing such freedom of choice of outcomes for the kittens. The judge also commended the barrister for bring the truth of the situation to the notice of the court.

And pigs flew overhead..........

September 15, 2003
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You're too cute, Tez! (smile) I think I know that courtroom!! Love the pigs but their droppings are horrendous!

September 15, 2003
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I think I kind of got that story. I understood it on one level, but my deep thinking skills aren't sharpened much today. I will reread this and maybe just maybe I will see how this relates to our view of heaven. I'm trying Tez.

September 16, 2003
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Missed reading your marvelous witty posts TEZ 🙂 Have a heavenly day.

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