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bevdee....from omw
April 17, 2008
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I meant to tell you that I am sorry for your loss. You wrote everything out so very well...your feelings, about losing your Lonnie.

This thread is to ask you a question though. You mentioned a spiritual thing, where you heard a high pitched noise. I was trying to figure out what you were referring to. It reminded me of something that happened to me a year ago, only once in my life...I was asleep and felt my body raise up off the bed and when I awoke I was on my bed, but I awoke to a very high pitched noise. It atartled me, as I didn't know what it was. Does this sound familiar to you at all? If so, would you mind explaining it to me?

April 17, 2008
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Sorry to butt in, but Im doing some googling on human frequency and what we connect to and don´t. Pls let me know if you know of anything like this as per my other thread. tks.

April 19, 2008
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OnMyWay,

I'm not even going to pretend I know anything about this. I don't. I have had the feeling of floating outside my body with the thin air sensation before, but never the high pitched whine.

I googled and got this -

http://www.angelfire.com/co3/S.....omena.html

Significance of Different Frequency Ranges for OBE and Esoteric Mysticism
General Considerations:

"On the scale of vibration frequencies different qualities of sensory perceptions can be experienced:
~Frequencies from 4 Hz (cps) to ca. 200 Hz: tactile perception -- etheric OBE-ing, mediumistic phenomena.
~Frequencies in the acoustic range: sound perception -- astral OBE-ing
~Frequencies in the higher acoustic range: sounds and light perception -- mental OBE-ing
1) Frequencies in the tactile range: 4 Hz (cps) - ca. 200 Hz
Concentration and imagination on vibrations in this range can be used for actively induced subtle body loosening in the way of "stepping out of the body". From 16 Hz upwards the tactile range is overlapping with the range of deep sounds.

2) Frequencies in the acoustic range: 16 Hz (cps) - ca. 20 000 Hz Deep sounds, still in the frequency range of sensed vibrations, facilitate etheric OBE-ing (see above). However, the higher the frequency increases, the more the amplitude of vibrations diminishes. Finally, at some point, the dissociative effect will be too small to get the etheric body out of alignment. With higher frequency rates the state of consciousness becomes astral. The perceived sounds are no longer "natural sounds". They begin to manifest in other ways, changing to composed sounds, like concerts, chorals and songs, or simple laughter and screaming. This inner music has nothing to do with cosmic or astral sounds, but is of hypnogogic origin and indicates a kind of border line before entering the astral state.

3) Frequencies generating inner light perception: Frequency range of higher sounds

A frequency range higher than the acoustic one, or overlapping with higher sounds, seems to cause inner light perception. These frequencies have nothing to do with light frequencies, but they stimulate parts of the brain, causing the above mentioned light perception and further euphoric feelings and altered states of consciousness.These sound and light experiences can be considered as border phenomena, perceived between physical and subtle consciousness, and are not yet astral.

OBE's starting from this state can often be classified as traveling in mental spheres or other high-planes travelings. For mental traveling the inner state of consciousness has interesting qualities. The state is mentally dominated. The word "mental" in mysticism has nothing to do with thinking. It is a kind of clear, strong, inner sight, without disturbances by thoughts. In mental traveling (mental OBE's) you sometimes find yourself in planes which shine in a splendor of light. However, the mental plane is not heavenly in the Christian sense because, despite all the glamor, the state may be lacking in love."

But I dunno. I haven't had the time or the inclination to read up on it.

Here's the explanation I attached to the thin air and the high pitched noise (or signal?). In the days after my cousin died, I had trouble dealing with my family because of the decision I made not to go to the funeral. Like I said, in those first few days, my pain was so great I had to concentrate on my breathing, really focus on breathing so I didn't go to pieces. I've been practicing this for months, so it wasn't too difficult to do. Each time I felt the air was thin, when I heard the high pitch, it wasn't much longer before the phone rang and it was one of my family, calling to try to get me to do something I didn't want to do. It's hard for me to say no to them. I think it might have been that ssomething (probably my inner guides, or my cousin ... whatever.... ) was telling me to bow up, be strong, stand firm. The call was coming.

There is one thing that has happened to me in the past, and, in the past couple of years, more frequently. When I drift off to sleep, I hear noises similar to radio frequency transmissions. I mean the old timey radios with the dial, with the noise in between the signal of the radio stations. If you took that dial and turned it too fast, the signal from the station would just kind of blip- remember? You could near maybe one word of the transmission. I hear voices, single words, fragments of sentences, or sounds like that. That happens to me as I fall asleep, or try to meditate. It's happened to me since I was a little girl, but it's really not something I have talked to many people about.

I don't know why that has happened to me since I was little, and I sure don't know what the high pitched sound was. That's a new one. If it keeps happening, I may look into it some more.

April 19, 2008
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bevdee, it happens because you are open to it.

I mean think about this, albeit just for a moment.

You've probably heard about the ring tone on cell phones that middle aged people can't hear. Many of my teen students have asked me about this, and they play it, and i can't hear it. It's valid. My own kids have done this to my husband.

So. Do I tell them it doesn't exist just because I can't hear it?

that's not logical. Or rational. Or real.

You are percieving something many others cannot. But some can, and you are one of them. It's not a delusion or hallucination.

It's a perception.

Check it out.

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April 21, 2008
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WOW. All I can think of is WOW. This is beyond me, and I have no idea what happened to me or to you. Thank you for all of the information. I am going to do a little more research too. I just remember feeling horrible when I woke up like I had been somewhere awful, but no memory of where. This is great stuff!

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bevdee, Ive heard "noises similar to radio frequency transmissions" and "voices, single words, fragments of sentences, or sounds like that" but I would deny that if anyone around me heard me say that! To them all I say is I have tinnitus and perfect hearing as per a thorough hearing exam 😉

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bevdee,

Please explain what you mean by 'thin air'. I don't understand this concept.

I believe there is something to all of this, I just don't know what it is. The more people I talk to, they say oh, yeah I have had OBE before..but they did not hear a high pitched noise.

Regarding voices that you have heard...when I was into psychic stuff I went to a meeting and we 'visualized' (this was many years ago)and I could hear people laughing and talking in the room with me. It was very strange. I don't want to go back to that, as it never served me well, I was hurt by it, but it did happen that way. I can only guess that they are other realms that were traveled to somehow.

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Hey sweetie. I have to go shower then get to my massage in a few minutes. I will try to think of a way to explain the thin air while I am there. It's like feeling lighter. I don't guarantee that I can find the words - I will grope, okay?

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Free - licious!! Good to see you.

OnMyWay,

I have tried ot think of a way to describe the feeling I had when I called it thin air. Other than what I said- that I felt lighter, all I can really add to it is that it's like I am outside my body, a little above it, and there is less sensory input. Like I have tuned much of my physical surroundings out. Yet something always brings me back- too quickly. A sound or something.

Also, in the last few months, I have had some really odd and vivid dreams. I haven't changed my diet much, except to eliminate more carbs, so there is no explanation for that. Except for the massages. Hm. I don't function with the same levels of constant pain that I did last year. I have been seeing her once a week and she flat works me over. That may be a part of it - I am able to relax more deeply than I have for a long long time. I want to do it some more. I want to expand my perception and see if it does serve me well. :~) I'm just going to keep reading about it and practicing.

I've had a few OBEs, spontaneous. I remember looking down at my body, but slamming right back, once I realised what had happened. It's just a floatie kind of feeling - weightless. When I "came back" I felt nauseous afterward.

Sometimes I feel the same way when I awaken from a dream suddenly. Heart pounding and sick to my stomach. The similarities make me wonder if dreaming isn't some form of astral projection that we do every night.

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bevdee,

Interesting, so you have actually been awake while it happened. I understand the thin air concept. I felt myself rising and hovering but I was also asleep. And since it has never happened before, nor happened since, I think it was a real experience. The high pitched noice continued after I woke up though for about 30 seconds.

What ws the 'slamming right back' like?

Glad you are taking good care of yourself. Massages are a great way to relax and melt the cares away!

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