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January 3, 2005
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Ahh Tez, no wonder I like you. A Gemeni and a 28/10. Two of my favorites!

5+2+5+1+9+4+2=28 2+8=10 The 10 is significant of karma being recognized and worked. It is essentially an ending of karma. Take that as you will (and I know you will)

First let me address your life cycles.
5(the month) was worked from age birth thru 30. This was a period of change, freedom of choice and somewhat reckless decisions. This can be a very unkempt # in that there is not much structure surrounding.
7(2+5=7 the date) This is indicative of being solitary. It signifies spiritual growth, maybe sickness and at it's worse, problems with the law or even death. You are still with us so the rest is your story. Most often, certain situations arise that cause the spirituality to come forth. Again, this year, 2005, is a 7 year. Lot's for you to learn and discover!!
The last cycle is also 7.1+9+4+2=16 1+6=7. This, my friend, is your karma time. It involves love. Somewhere along the line of your whole existence, you have chosen to wrong a love very badly. This is where you finally understand and get the lesson. I do not know how and maybe this has been achieved but the enlightenment or "loss" of this becomes apparent to you now.This cycle comes in around age 58-60. So, you know what I am talking about.

The life path is 28/10
This tells me you are a very intuitive person. My son is also a 28/10 as well as several other people in my life. Wonderfully endearing people. Sometimes a bit needy? Twos have a bit of this tendency. Your 10 saves this from being too strong. The one speaks of being an individual, creativity, self-esteem issues good and bad. The 0 along with the 1 gives you inner gifts of intuition, understanding etc. The 8, on the inside of this equation has been the most difficult to attain. It is about power and control. You have been one to give it away often and now should be understanding it was not that important after all. Coming into this understanding allows the financial riches associated with 8 to take place. OK maybe not riches, but certainly money is not a problem.

This is my understanding of these #'s and I would like your feedback. Oh, I figured you were not an advocate of numerology but that's ok, I am!

Thanks my friend!!!!

January 3, 2005
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Bel hello! Of course I would be happy to read your numbers!!!

1+1+1+9+5+0=17 1+7=8 17/8

The lifepath is an 8 Bel. Very power oriented #. Resisting the control issue is difficult. But, on a good note, money issues have been minimal for you. Even in times of lack, money issues seem to just work out.

Your cycles of 1, 1, and 6 have given you quite an independent and interesting life. 1 gives you creativity, self esteem issues(good and bad) as well as an independent persona. You are now in a 6 cycle which tells me family issues are at the helm.

The 7 on the inside of your lifepath equation tells me you have had trouble being alone. It is not the easiest for you. Even if you have been there. Being spiritual and finding your answers has not been easy either. You may have been resistent or simply not bought into what was presented. I'm not sure.

This period of your life has been the most different for you. Family may now be a happier experience for you and being alone while accepting your spirituality may be feeling more comfortable. At least I hope this is how your story is reading Bel.

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January 4, 2005
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Workinonit.

Thanks for both the effort that you have put in and your good intentions behind that effort.

I have downloaded your posting and will peruse it with interest (and probably some amusement).

Thanks again.

January 4, 2005
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Thanks for your thanks. šŸ™‚

January 5, 2005
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Workin,

Thank you for the number reading.

I do have control issues and its very difficult for me to let others take care of their own issues, but I am working on it.

I have many money issues, alot these past few months but alot during my life. And as you state they seem to just work out.

I am independent and as for my life interesting? Hmmm I think it has been somewhat normal and boring.

Family Issues at the Helm, oh boy are they! Lots going on with son, grandson and son's girlfriend. Dont know the outcome yet. But I am getting caught in the middle as is my grandson. Bad situation.

I have always been somewhat of a loner and for the most part I have been happy about it but there are times when I wish I had someone in my corner.

I believe for the most part you have hit it right on with your readings, I am amazed and happy with what you have presented me.

Thank you
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January 5, 2005
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You are so welcome bel and thanks for the opp to stretch my muscles in this reading!

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Tez, by all means share the amusement. I never want to take this too seriously and I may learn a thing or two!!!

Good intentions can go bad too.

I have to say though, I just get on a roll with these readings. Not as if something quite takes over, nothing that nebulous, but, an understanding deep inside if that makes sense.

But, serious is not my style with this. If I get a bad gfeeling about something, I try to share it as broadly as possible because I do not know that persons life and what I consider bad may be normal to them.

Anyway, looking forward to your feedback.

January 6, 2005
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Workin what do you mean by strecthing your muscles?

January 7, 2005
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Workinonit.

You may not like this feedback. I see only two viable choices: To not respond at all or give you 'my truth' as I see it. Because I think that you are genuine and have good intentions I chose the latter.

My response:

The cause-effect relationships between all things on this planet are very complex indeed. Perhaps the Buddha mind is capable of omniscience and therein seeing the mathematical relationship between events whether they be either causal or consequential.

However, I am very sceptical about 'numerologists' using the simplistic summing of numbers to make dubious interpretations of these summations in determining personality characteristics and life events in the past, present and future. Either the interpretations are so general in nature as to apply to anybody or they are vague and ambiguous enough to fit to almost any life event. Where your interpretations were even close to the mark, you could easily have read this information freely posted on this site by me many times over the last 7 years. Any relationship between any simplistic number system, albeit consecutively adding birth date numeral, and life events would be purely fanciful.

Alternatively, the mind is very powerful. A highly focussed and concentrated mind is capable of 'mental telepathy' - a fancy name for mind speaking directly to mind unconsciously. I have an open mind about such powers.

We all like to hear nice things about ourselves. We consciously and unconciously find a match for general statements such as those made by fortune tellers, numerologists, astrologists, etc with our memories of life events without any critical thinking whatsoever.

I never forget one night when I was about 20 years old, I got fairly drunk. I sat in the public bar of a pub in Newcastle, NSW, Australia and read the palm of the hand of a young girl about my own age. I told her a BS story that my old Irish grandmother had taught me how to do this. I spoke in generalities about her past while watching her face. It was quite easy to follow along the trail of 'hits' by quickly discarding the 'misses'. Then knowing womens' predilection for romance, I went into the future by telling her what she had in store for her in terms of what I knew she wanted to hear. Before I knew it she was flabergasted by the so called 'accuracy' of my insight into her past, present and future. She mouthed off to all the women in the bar and before I new it I had a line of females clammering for their turn to have their palms read. I had created a huge lie with which I had to continue or face exposure as a fraud. I never did that again. But I did learn the lesson of how gullible people really are - how easily that they can be exploited by charlatans or other gullible people like themselves.

January 7, 2005
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Sorry about the heat, and it is better than being under water, which, I am right now.So they say until Monday. Don't be so quick to discount numerology.... Who the heck knows, and by the way, what the heck is Buddahas number. Some say that God, is geometry, go figure? How many 9's or 7's to equal the end ??? lol

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Bel, I meant giving me the opportunity to work the numbers. Just a figure of speech that's all!

January 7, 2005
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Tez, my skin is thicker than you think and of course i realize the enormous responsibility of using this talent. Yes, I do see it as a talent.

Ok, in your opinion, numbers are very general and your opinion is true but, the accuracy of what I glean when reading the numbers of a total stranger is not from reading their expressions. At least not so that I am aware. This is why I am enjoying this format because I cannot see the other person and know Jack Squat about them. Certainly I may have known some things about you but, if the #'s did not correspond to the application I would not have stated the points I made.

I stand by the reading I gave you and I am totally unoffended by your outlook. In fact, I expected this response from you and not because of your numbers!! LOL

Many people Tez, find a reason to proceed, let go, believe in themselves or even take care of themselves differently when a reading is done for them. An enlightened person, such as yourself, (that is not tongue in cheek BTW) might even take offense or feel this is beneath them(subconciously of course) It is simply a different tool, one that for some reason, makes sense to me. Nothing says you need to get it but, it does bring things more clear to me.

So Tez, let's mark this as a very interesting interlude in the continuing conversations we have and move on!

BTW, thanks for being honest. That part is worth more than you know.

January 8, 2005
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Molly.

Though I don't agree with you, just as I am entitled to my views, so are you and I quite happily accept that.

January 8, 2005
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"So Tez, let's mark this as a very interesting interlude in the continuing conversations we have and move on!"

Of course ... in my regard, I cannot think of any reason why not to do so.

Just because we don't ascribe to the same belief systems we don't have to feel threatened. Unless of course we believe that what we believe must be absolutely right or else eternal damnation will surely ensue as day follows night. Then we might feel threatened by criticism of a belief system. šŸ™‚

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All.

Please be cognizant of the fact that the reader, either consciously or unconsciously, tends to inject intonations into the written words, not the writer - unless capitalization or exclamation marks are added and even then ... .

If offence is taken it is quite often due to this added injection of intonations originating from projections from the past. šŸ™‚ < - Just to let you know that I ain't eggbound.

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Tez, I think this is sound advise for everyone. You should realize, I took no offense from your words.

Numerology is not a belief system for me, at least not as I understand that concept. It is a simple tool.

I also agree with the "projections of the past". Our original sin gives us a picture or felling we learned very young. Have you ever done inner child exploration? I have done a bit. It amazes me how just the recognition of a bad experience and the additional loving of the tiny self can make so much difference.

You have probably heard me speak about my recent discovered awareness of my father's template, aloof, funloving, emotionally detached and a gay man. The problem with the homosexuality was, we did not know. I found this out at age 16 from my soon to be husband. I then formed a new template and now, run from the latter type of man. The men I meet who fit my father's template are more real. It has helped me to process this issue in this manner because now, I am learning earlier recognition of the red flags and better ways to communicate. I am not looking for "the one". I don't think there is such a thing. Only connections for needed growth and clarification.

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Workinonit.

You said:

"... I then formed a new template ..."

I'm not too sure about anybody's ability to significantly change the template 'image' in their psyche of the person to whom they 'feel'(awareness of emotional arousal) powerfully attracted. I am convinced that the emotional component of this 'template' has been indelibly inscribed in our emotional memory in the amygdala.

Whilst we can 'tame' wild animals to some extent, they always seem to 'revert to type' under any significant threat.

Similarly our early childhood needs for protection, nurture and sustenance burn into our amygdala very permanent (until death do us part) emotional memories of our early caregivers' characteristics. Whilst we may be able to recognize this intellectually and be able to override our emotional desires by use of our cognitions, I think that we will never get the ecstatic sexual and emotional highs upon receiving approval(or the agonizing lows upon being rejected)from non-template or from only very partial template matches.

This is my conviction based upon my own experiences and those of others with whom I have spent many hours sharing their learning experiences regarding how to deal with very destructive yearnings involving wanting to be with highly dysfunctional partners.

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Love ya just the same Tez....... However am looking at science more than religion. Perhaps the two are the same ? I am open. Exploring all the options.

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Oh Tez, I do agree with your last statement! Otherwise, our attractions would be rampant and our lessons never internalized. I do think internally we need to make the pieces fit for eventual sublimation with the one.

But, I do not think my theory for my life is wrong. Now, don't misunderstand me. The presented idea of one template is commonly correct but, how do we know new life experiences are not causing new life lesson concepts for faST forwarding experience? Let's say, for instance, we are in a period of guick assimilation. Maybe we need to hurry things along. What do we really know after all?

Ok, if my thoughts are correct, the second template is true for me as it is helping me learn. Now, this may not be my main focus but, it was what was necessary for me to understand the main focus. So, now, this second template holds less weight (*as it really does) for me which you may say, Lori that was not the template at all and now you are focused on the template. Could be. But, I spent so many years with my second template to believe, this is still an attraction. Since I've learned to see these red flags sooner it is not as much of an issue and surely they may both blend in areas I am not yet aware of.

Sorry for the rambling nature of the message but, I am trying to get the thoughts down without prejudging them. I hope this made some sense and that you are not so set on the one way you believe that you can't walk with me along this path I recognize as being truth.(for me)

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Molly.

Luv ya 2. šŸ™‚

January 13, 2005
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Workinonit.

It's past midnight here at the moment and I dog tired. I've cut and pasted your last response. I'll reply tomorrow when I can concentrate.

Catch ya later.

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Tez are you around?

January 15, 2005
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Workinonit.

You said:

" I hope this made some sense and that you are not so set on the one way you believe that you can't walk with me along this path I recognize as being truth.(for me) "

It is not a question of being "set on the one way"; it is a question of following your line of reasoning in reference to a framework of knowledge gleaned over many years from the masters of the social sciences and philosophy. Put another way, I would have to see, recognize and understand your beliefs and thought processes at depth before I could "walk with" you "along this path" that you "recognize as being truth". This would involve a hell of a lot more communications than could possibly be had here, using this very severely limiting 'comms' channel.

I like to think that I have an open mind, but this does not imply that I have a mind that takes on board everything uncritically - such a mind is not an 'open mind' but rather the mind of a child. When Christ said that we must become 'as little children', I don't think he was talking literally, but metaphorically. I think that he was refering to 'the letting go of our past conditioning' at a prerequisite to seeing the nature of 'reality'- not to taking on more conditioning uncritically as children do.

And you said:

"But, I do not think my theory for my life is wrong." I'm sure that you don't. If you did think that your "theory of life" was wrong, in all probability you would quickly modify it until the resulting cognitive dissonance of the mind dissipated.

"The presented idea of one template is commonly correct ... ... ... the second template is true for me as it is helping me learn. "

This is not how I see the 'template'. Firstly, the 'template' is not real. The 'template' is a model, an abstract concept, a way of talking about a complex interactive process. Having said that, whilst there are aspects held in common, I think that there are as many "templates" as there are people and animals in this universe. Each 'template' is unique in that it is a part of the consequence of all that has gone before. No two people, however similar, have had exactly the same past in every respect. That is why I frown upon numerology. Numerology seems to presume that everybody born on exactly the same day will be exactly the same. That makes no sense and is purely 'magical thinking' devoid of reason - in my opinion.

You said:

"... how do we know new life experiences are not causing new life lesson concepts for faST forwarding experience?"

In all probability they are - we are 'evolving' not 'revolving' after all.

And:

"Maybe we need to hurry things along."

Mounting tensions caused by fear of damage and loss to the 'self,' in my view, underpin any drive to " hurry things along" in our vain attempts to bring about peace of mind by 'rearranging the deck chairs on our Titanic like earth'.

And:

"Lori that was not the template at all ... " Then why were you attracted to him in the first place and not other males who were undoubtedly presenting themselves?? We tend to dismiss the number of 'opportunities' for romance with those to whom we feel no attraction. The question is: why do we feel no attraction for some obviously quite attractive people yet feel 'turned on' by the rejects of others; 'One man's meat is another man's poison' as the (MCP) saying goes. Bu,t psychologically speaking, from the perspective of the 'template' this statement appears to be a valid one.

And:

" I am trying to get the thoughts down without prejudging them"

Rather than "judging them" at all, why not contemplate them as they flash bye in order to get a clearer view of what are the underpinning beliefs and processes that trigger off the emotions that drive them to seek the resolution to inner mental dissonances? (Vipassana meditation)

Catch ya later.

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Yep - busy as can be, I sure am.

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Hey Tez, How are you today?

I don't think I have ever asked you that question. I just need to say you are a help to me. I will respond further to your last post but I wanted to let you know your sharing is appreciated.

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