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Are we heading for a worldwide depression/meltdown?
June 11, 2010
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Bfg,

You're
welcome.

I'm hip to the
whole positive thinking thing to a point but also believe that
there are many of those who take it too far & refuse to even
examine the negatives. Real problems in the world would never get
dealt with if all people were to subscribe to the belief that
merely by thinking positive a solution to the worlds' woes would be
provided. Strikes me as a rather silly concept actually. On the
flip side - one can spend too much time living in the negative as
well. It's about balance. What feels right to us individually.
Still trying to find that balance in my own life.

Mass revolt would
at best likely only provoke the ptb into implimenting martial law
& as you know, they are already geared for it. As I've
mentioned before - peaceful non-compliance would seem to me our
best bet. Let's throw on our Gandhi outfits! lol

Speking of Gandhi,
here are a couple of quotes that I like:

I cannot teach you
violence, as I do not myself believe in it. I can only teach you
not to bow your heads before any one even at the cost of your life.
- Mahatma Gandhi

..and on the
lighter side:

I believe in
equality for everyone, except reporters and photographers. -
Mahatma Gandhi

June 12, 2010
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Interesting...the quotes are wise and I could not agree more.
The more I think about it...the more it continues, I am now
wondering if this was "intentional" its kind of odd to me that
nothing was set in place to stop it...if something were to go
wrong, in which it did. Look at the consequences...who will profit
from it? Is it another tactic to create chaos? They want to have
order out of chaos...maybe this is just another tactic to create
chaos...destroy our resources...so we are forced into having to
share equally the resources which will enable more control and
power over our lives?

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I
really really really hope I am wrong about that...but every feeling
in my heart tells me I am not... ((((Destiny star)))and
(((lilliabit)) I am sorry...I did not acknowledge your supportive
hugs back there! Right back at cha!!! I have a lot to do this
weekend...see you all on monday! (((((Hugs to
everyone!))))))

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Andi
I put some links and quotes on the thread about the oil spill that
is on the other side of the forum. Maybe it will answer some, if
not all, of your questions.

I agree that
blissing out is not going to make things better-- in the long run.
and that Bilderburg remark is right on target, in my
opinion.

Craigco, about
number 10 on the list, it has happened in the past -- 30 years in
the past, "they" didn't learn from that Here are the news reports:
( Blood of the earth video, Part 4):
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mr.....dWcGM-U8l0 They
tried the same techniques to contain that spill, they failed then
too.

June 13, 2010
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I
hope this thread continues here...but for a time, it must go on
without me...I started a nature based thread titled...gardens,
ponds and more on this side... Please keep posting and sharing...I
hope to come back and talk more when I am able to not cry and get
so worked up...I need to work on this...so here I will
stay...thanks mydas for your insight and thank you too
misguided...your both wonderful souls on here...I appreciate your
compassion and understanding... Something I need to learn more of
myself...I am truly touched by you guys:) hugs to all

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I
invite everyone who is interested to this new thread...its nature
inspired...I think most of us agree that nature is the one thing
that brings so much joy and happiness to our lives...

June 14, 2010
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formerly

thank you,
interesting reads!

BFgirl, one can
only wonder if this WAS in fact intentional, or maybe when it
occurred "they" got together and decided that letting it erupt was
best. I cannot for the life of me imagine why, but people do have
different thoughts on many things.

Craigco, I love
those Ghandi comments. I wonder though, if violence is sometimes
called for. After all, it did win WW1 and 2, amongst other
conflicts. We'd be speaking German or japanese if not for a violent
response. Seems that with the human race, freedom is something that
must be fought for, it's just not free as the old saying goes.
Bullies exist in all walks, all groups it seems. How to maintain
peace and non violence in the face of them, remains an enigma to
me. When ya can't hide, gotta fight back. What do think of that
statement?

andii

June 16, 2010
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I
don't know Andii, I mean it very odd that this happens and the fact
that there was nothing in place as a safety back up? I mean why do
this and not have something in place that would reverse this or
prevent it? We have sent a man to the moon, done great things and
yet we can't stop this cause nothing was set in place to prevent
this? Wow. I am no expert but there should of been SOMETHING in
place if this would of occurred, which it had!

June 16, 2010
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Obama
just saddens me...

June 18, 2010
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Formerly, I'll check out that link you provided. Thx

June 18, 2010
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BFgirl, you're hitting on something when you say it's very odd
that this happens and there's no safety back up. There is supposed
to be.

Nevertheless, the
Dutch immediately dispatched their skimmer ships towards the gulf,
as did Saudi Arabia. We have in the U.S. the Jones Act, which
prevents ships from going port to port, they can only pick up
passengers, this is to protect maritime commerce. Former President
Bush waved the Jones Act during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina
so that other nations could help us. Instead of doing this,
President Obama respectfully declined help, in writing to, Denmark
and Saudi Arabia. But they too are concerned about this spill as
it's going to impact their nations as well. So they sit out their
in the Atlantic awaiting the U.S. to permit them to come into our
waters.

President Obama
has ignored the pleas of the environmental groups to permit the
farmers to conduct clean up(with straw as shown in the utube video
link I posted a few days after this started) and he has refused
waive the Jones Act which would permit Dutch and Arabian skimmer
ships to collect surface oil.

Why? Is my
question.

No oil ever should
have reached the beaches or even the gulf stream.

President Obama
addresses our nation and tells us not to worry, that BP has set
aside 20 billion to help affected families by responding to claims
of lost work etc. But their stock is plummetting, and their current
net worth is only about 7 billion. Furthermore, how does this help
our environment?

Well it
doesn't.

Obama further
places the Secretary of the Navy in Charge of the oil cleanup. Now
think about this. Just for a second. Please.

Who does that put
the tab for this mass cleanup bill on?

think!

yup, you and
me.

The American
Taxpayer.

Obama knows full
well that BP is going bankrupt so he's put the Navy in charge, who
will of course keep the Dutch and Saudi Arabia out of our waters.
No way are they going to even TRY to come in now, not with our Navy
in the Gulf.

WHY? Why is he
doing this to our people, our environment, our country?

There must be a
reason.

Any conspiracy
theorists out there? I'm curious!

andii

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((((Andii)))) Good to see you again...good question. I am
afraid the answer is too obvious and leaves me kinda of
speechless... Its not good...is interesting to watch what will
happen next...so predictable anymore... So sad...so
tragic...

Fathers day is
sunday...not usually a good day for me...I am going to try to stay
positive...gotten this far. May as well try to hold on till monday
when hep will give us her good insight... Trying to hold on till
then...how about you andii?

June 19, 2010
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(((BFgirl))) It's good to see you too! Tell me, do you really
think the answer to my question as to why is obvious? Like what? I
really don't understand the lack of response to this spill when it
first happened. I can understand that BP wanted to keep it under
hat so to speak and get control before it got this bad. But why
don't we let the skimmer ships in and the farmers go to work NOW?
It's too late to save many, but not too late to save some. Ya
know?

Hey BFgirl have
you ever thought about a gym membership? I go get on a treadmill
and plug myself into my Ipod and let the marvels of exercise just
take me away. Some days I just dread going but once I'm there and
plugged in, I'm off and going and when I'm done I just feel so
relieved. When I first started I could barely last 15 minutes on
that dang treadmill. But time goes by, and the body adapts and
strengthens and it's just amazing. I can picture you in a
gym!

andii

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I do
not believe they want to solve this....cauae if they did...they
would of done something by now or had things in place...I think it
could be intentional...not sure however...just my paranoid thoughts
here! Ha! I am.avctually ready to leave now for the jym...I have a
membership and work out most days on the epitical.. I will be back
later...I also have a ww meeting...so I will be back...have a happy
saturday!

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What
do you think of things andii?

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Conspiricy Theory is a tv show. Anybody watch it? If you go to
youtube you can see all kinds of stuff that is being said about
this. I'm not going to list anything anymore because I have noticed
that I don't exist here.

June 20, 2010
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Formerly I paticipate in another website that let's us use
emoticos to wink smile be sad so that we can try to show the
feelings you can her in the spoken word but not the written. You
exist here as much as anyone else. You have right to be here and
post simply because you are here. Most of us here are damaged in
some way or we wouldn't be here. Last week I was on information
overload. I live on the Gulf Coast and am in the middle of this
mess. Believe me when I say we want people from around the country
to kno the truth of what is happenong. Information is knowledge and
knowledge is power.

Bitsy

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I
believe things are in motion against us...I am not sure myself
excatly what that is...but formerly a lot of that stuff personally
scares me...now do I buy it all? No...we have to remember that
there is disinformation planted in there to make the truth look
like crazy talk...only thing is...which is which...I am nor sure!
(((((((Formerly)))))))) Its ok to have your feelings here....pease
keep posting.

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Has
anyone read about harrp? Its very interesting reading.... Its
located in alaska and its a real place... It emits an errie sound
and many say its responsible fore a lot of our environmental
mishaps... Anyone care to comment or have read it? If not...google
this...its interesting!

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formerly, I often feel as if I don't exist here, I'm sorry you
are feeling that way, it surely does bite. I've not watched the tv
show conspiracy theory, didn't know it was on! I will surely look
for it though as I bet it's interesting.

Everybody:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/whales.....n=6XL1Xfe5

In two days, the
IWC (International Whaling Commission) will vote to lift the ban on
whaling. In Obamas pre-Presidential speeches he promised to help
end commercial whaling once and for all and to even address the
loopholes that permit whaling for "reasearch" purposes. he stated
on many occasions that the United States does not now and will
never support commercial whaling. Well President Obama has changed
his mind, the United States will be joining Norway, Japan, and
Iceland in voting to lift the ban on commercial whaling. You can
help stop this by signing petitions to let those in power know that
we do not in fact support this heinous act and this is not the will
of the American people.

http://www.avaaz.org/en/whales.....n=6XL1Xfe5

Please don't think
your signature doesn't matter and that your voice is not heard.
Remember Horton Hears a Who? Sometimes it takes lots of little
peoples shouting together to be heard

andii

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(((Andii))) (((formerly)))) and ((((everyone))))

I believe we all
felt/feel this way...so hugs to all!

Has anyone heard
of harrp? Thanks for posting your info andii!

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I
hope that the forecase for the gulf is wrong, I have only heard
from one source about this explosion posing to happen?

Now, if it does
happens and no one is taken out and they knew bout it, what then?
Oh i dread the thoughts of that one...

So is this being
addressed anywhere else but am coast? Does anyone know?

I would post this
on that other thread but its kinda of off topic at the moment, so
thought i continue that here...

thoughts?

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I am
trying to breathe life into this thread...but maybe its just too
battered...I hope not!!!

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We
are already IN a worldwide melt down!!!!!!!!! Where have you all
been, Mars????

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