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Are we heading for a worldwide depression/meltdown?
February 11, 2010
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BFG,

OMG - I had no idea that you were living in shelter right now. Is it because of the snow storm and you have no way of getting to your home and no heat?

Bless your heart! I hope that this is only temporary......

February 11, 2010
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BFG.

I read about your storm predicament.

How awfull.

A "friend" with a LARGE warm home can't even have the compassion and love for a temporary thing? Just take your dog and put him in the laundry room or a closet somewhere, let him outside, a couple of days!???.....whatever!

If this were me, I would put that friend on the back burner, in the SHALLOW friend category. Call her up just to shop for jewelry or clothes. Maybe get her to cover a purchase then "forget" to pay her back.
BITCH!

Beleive me I cleaned house MAJORLY with friends like that. It was really hard and lonely at first but i'm so much better off now.

Yea. The shoe thing would be funny to read about if you do it. Maybe put a note on them "a message from your indian princess" HeeHEE!

I wouldn't do that to my man. He just isn't near bad enough to divorce.But as a joke? maybe. I think I'll keep him,hehe.

February 11, 2010
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Oh its a joke, he is a good man, 15 years going on 16...:) He would appreciate it cause he knows alot bout history...

I could not believe that between the two of them, one had a fully heated home, over 4,000 sq feet and the other was only five mins from who had a fireplace.

The one with the fireplace had another party that weekend to attend too, she tells me all bout them, knowing I have just her and one other friend and never get invited to anyones home for them, that is ok, believe me i rather not go anyhow...

But she was like well you can come over for the daylight hours for a few hours, ugh...I needed a place at nighttime and I need something more permanent. She then said well ok and hung up...

A few hours later she said that she then talked to her husband who said well maybe they can put the dogs here with theirs who is very large and very out of control, in their kitchen and that without showers or clothes we could go to their friends home for a superbowl party, who prolly would not mind...

Um...I do not invite myself to peoples home, and we had not showered for two days and had nothing to wear, she had to had known that we could not really have taken her up on that, but her party with her other influential friends, are obviously more important than my little morkie who was btw, shaking, he would of died if not our power would of came on that night....

My other friend, was called by the friend who had the superbowl party and she asked her why she was not helping me out as she was my friend too, She actually called her to let her know that they could dump us all off at her home...first off I would never invite myself to someones home with two dogs and not showering for two days...unless someone insisted on helping me.

She did have a concern bout my dogs, cause they are fussy, and she has a child, but then again, we have kennels and a heated garage would of worked but no...that is ok, that is fine by me...she did later tell me to come over, after my friend who lives only five mins away from called her and made her feel bad, which was not her place, cause her being five mins from me, was alot easier to get too than my other friend who lives a half hour away.

Either one really wanted to go the distance for me, I could of stayed in the shelter, it was my dogs that had no place to go, if someone would of just said ok one night with the dogs here...it would of helped me alot, I had no money for hotel, I had gas in my car, this storm was something that shocked everyone.

When it comes down to it, I feel awful cause I feel as I was let down and I feel basically friendless now, yea we meet for lunch and talked and I never said a word bout it, it saddens me cause it were me in that position, i would of insisted, I never would of done that..that is what hurts the most I think...

oh codependent me!

February 11, 2010
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I guess I might be missing something here or else I am really, really dense.

What is your home situation?

Do you have a home that you can't go to right now because of broken power lines or something?

Forgive me if I missed something of yours in another thread.......

February 11, 2010
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Well what had happened, is that we had a huge storm...over 21 inches of snow and we had lost power, our driveway had four feet of snow so our cars were useless.

It was getting cold in our home, we own a small brick home and it has no working fireplace or we could of used that...one thing we will install before next year if we can afford it...the temps got down to 36 degrees, we then started to see our breath, we knew we had to leave...so we went to a shelter thinking it would be for a night, so i did the best i could for my dogs and made a huge bed in my room and left food and water for them, thinking all would be well the next day...

The power never came on, I feared the pipes would break next, we could not say, the shelter could not take dogs, the humane society and others could not even get to our street, driving was next impossible but some could drive who lived near major roads.

I was going to sneak them in the shelter in a unused room that night, if I didn't, they would of died, what other choice did i have? thankfully later that day..the power came on and we did not have to resort to braking the law, and i felt horrible about it too, I am not one to break the law but it was literally life or death for the one dog, he is very small and have little fur....

February 11, 2010
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and thanks for asking me truthbtold, sorry to not be good with details, hope this helped...thanks guys for caring and understanding....I was crying for days over this...cause I felt so let down.

I am trying to rise above it, but its hard, I am not sure I can, I am going to try to get past this, but I am sure i can.

February 11, 2010
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opps...not sure I can is what i meant to say here.

Better get back to my work now, talk to you all later...

It is nice meeting you all btw, good to talk to people who share things in common with me who also like to read and investigate things....

February 11, 2010
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((((BFG, MsG, Tez, tBt, sd, CC))))

Way back in May of 2008, I started talking about how the economy couldn't afford the way it was going... when the gas prices started to go up to $4. plus a gallon... We, the 'working class' of the world have been fed BS and drained dry, financially.

Look at the unemployment figures... Look at the HOMELESS figures... How many big businesses and industries do we HAVE now in the US... Look at all of the companies that have taken their production of goods to other countries where you can hire 5 or more people for doing that job instead of hiring only one person in the USA. Most of the banks IMPORT and employ workers to come here from other countries... Not the 'local' branches... but the MAIN offices. All our TECH support for products like software and computers is OUTSIDE of the States..

Pretty soon there will be more layoffs coming... more foreclosures... more bankruptcies... in turn, causing more people to become homeless. More of our young adults will be sent off to war to 'cull' the overpopulation. Banks are still failing... Credit companies are failing... Mom and Pop small businesses are closing right and left.

The white collar/blue collar working class is at a great disadvantage... And, sorry to say this, the rich and the super rich really don't care.. all they want is - as much of 'somethings' they can get for almost nothing. They feel 'entitled'.

just venting.

February 11, 2010
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Oh ((((BFG)))) thanks for filling me in.

Yep - when it comes down to 'bullet hits the bone' kind of time - that's when you find out who your REAL friends are - or aren't.

Personally, I just don't quite 'get' how most folks are not 'pet-friendly' at all. It really kind of urks me to no end.

I don't get what's NOT to get about loving your animals and pets and wanting to see them safe and secure.

Kind of beyond me, in this respect.

Anyway, is it true that power is up and running at your place now and you are back at home? Safe & sound now?

February 11, 2010
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Yes truthbtold, it came back on that second night...thankfully. My one friend who lived only five mins from me, was able to get out of their driveway and she had heat and is a dog lover as well, she has one.

So...it just did not sit well with me that she choose her superbowl party with her friends over me...I mean she could of at least said you know what, you can stay in my living room while we go the party, she knows me, she trust me, we been friends for awhile, but that apparently was not a option for her.

Her husband is a big partier, he like to hobnob and drink socially...we were the bummer on their plans and when it comes down to it, the party won over us needing her...

No apologies or guilt on her part either, we had lunch and the other friend just happened to be their passing by and joined us...I had a terrible lunch...I felt so hurt. I also took the subway to see them as I had no working car this week, and no one offered to even drive us home, we lived only a few mins from where we had lunch.

I just do not know what to think anymore, why why do people either abandon me or treat me like this? What have i done? I been good to people, I never willfully hurt anyone in life, I am not perfect but I am a good person, a good friend, so why why why...I am always alone and being hurt and trying to get over the pain?

gosh...

thanks for asking, yes we are warm!

February 11, 2010
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((((BFG)))))

I am so, so, sorry that are being hurt by these folks.

Truth is, I can count on one hand the true-blue friends in my life and one of those friends died in Sept '09 way, WAY ahead of her time. We had known each other since we were kids.

I still have one more. Tried and true.

I am so, so, sorry that the folks that you thought of were your friends, let you down like that and clearly showed to you - their shallow priorities.

But at least, now you know.

I know that that is no consulation, but, believe you me - there ARE folks out there worthy of your true-blue friendship and you theirs.

Don't give up hope.

They ARE out there, sweetie. Just, proabably gonna take a little more 'deciphering' on your part to weed out the good ones from the bad.

If you were my neighbor, I would say - hey, I don't have much, but you are welcome to what I have. Grab a blanket, keep your dogs warm and we'll figure it all out in the morning, you know?

This is not so uncommon. Just have to keep looking is all, you know?

Plenty of good, reliable 'have your back' kind of folks out there BFG, please don't give up on it and let this one bad experience taint the good that is still out there, is all I'm saying....

You know?

February 11, 2010
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(((Truthbtold))))

thank you from my heart, thank you very much.

February 11, 2010
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Hi Red.

Yup! U got it. MONEY matters. Everyone has been brainwashed into thinking Money is the most important thing, along with being fearful, selfish, and supporting the fascist regime.

Most don't even know we're living in Facsism that's how Dumbed down we all are.

BFG.
Your friends have Money, or the appearance of Money and they want to be surrounded by that.

I had the same problems with "so called" friends I had. They could snort coke, and deal heavy drugs ( along with their family name and fortune) and were beyond reproach for anything.

People are brainwashed to act this way so they serve the elite BFG!!

Keeping us apart, policing eachother, and weakening our loyalties is part of the plan.

Sick and Sadistic.

February 11, 2010
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You wrote:

"I tried to get you to visit these sites a while back, but you were on the Buddhist path, and wouldn't waver."

But what you didn't know is that I did visit those sites back then. I've had 'Zeitgeist' and 'Zeitgeist Addendum' the movies on my PC ever since - and distributed same where interest found suitable soil. I've a friend who keeps me posted with the latest and greatest conspiracy theories as they are promulgated. I don't get all emotional and jump up and down. Doing that solves nothing. I'm only now in the middle of converting Wake Up Call (Remastered) from .flv Flash format into DVD format so that my non-computer literate friends can watch it on their DVD players.

Notwithstanding all that, I haven't wavered from my love of Buddhist philosophy. I've investigated Echard Tolle and found him to be totally on the Buddhist path too. Of course Tolle would probably say that reality is reality no matter who exposes it to others - albeit the Buddha 2500 years ago. I think that most people see only the bullshit trappings of Buddhist rituals and never really look deeply into the nature of reality that the Buddha himself expounded. So, given what is presented as main stream buddhism, misunderstanding the Buddha's core teachings is natural and even almost inevitable, for most of us.

And you wrote:

"I understand you, everyone, needs SOMETHING, that brings balance and peace to their lives, but i am of the mindset that this is also a distraction to what is really going on Now."

This statement reinforces my belief in the veracity of what I have written above.

I'm sure that the Buddha would be screaming out Wake Up! Wake Up! if he was walking the earth today. I feel sure the Buddha and Gandhi would have seen eye to eye on what to do non-violently after the wake up call is eventually heeded by the masses. Far from being a distraction, the Buddha's teachings on mindfulness - amongst other things - is like a laser that cuts through all the 'power games' and gets straight to the underlying core causes of our world wide dilemma. In three words, the causes, at both a personal and global level are fear, greed and ignorance en masse. Ignorance underpins both fear and greed - I believe. The movie 'Wake Up Call' highlights this point eloquently for me at every turn.

I think that it was the comedian Bill Hicks who said; "There is only love and fear to chose from" at any given instant. Unknowingly most of us choose 'fear' in its many subtle disguises and forms. The challenge is to be able to respond to the conspiracy movies in a balanced and critical way with one eye on our inner 'love' and 'fear' barometers and another on our 'wisdom' barometer. Taking actions that foster fear in ourselves and others is counterproductive. The wisdom to know what action to take and performing wise acts in a loving way is the way out of this dilemma. Each, including myself, has to start at 'home' by looking within at these 'barometers'. This kind of self-introspection, far from being a distraction, it is the only way to succeed in bring about meaningful change that will lead to the kind of world in which we all want to live.

The lesson as yet unlearned by humanity as a whole is that violence in any form only breeds more violence. Evicting a family from their home because of their incapacity to pay their mortgage through no fault of their own,is a counterproductive, violent and very unwise act. Who wants to live in a world filled with violence in any of its many disguises? Might never made it right - albeit the might of the masses in full revolt as in 1917 in Russia!

February 11, 2010
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MSG - to your last post here:

You know what got to me big time?

I mean.....BIG FRICKING TIME!

You don't?

Well I am hear to tell ya........

It was the time when asshole, moran, idiot-ass G W Bush was at the RNC and all of these elites were piling in for the NRC (National Repulblican Convention) and you know what that son of a bitch had to say to the cameras with a big ole shiity grin on his stupid-ass face?

Hee hee - welcome - the 'haves' and the 'haves mores' tee hee hee....

When I saw that - I swear ya'll - I am NOT exaggerating - I felt right then and then like a big old fat, cold steel rod was being shoved right up my ass!!!!!

No shit!

Makes me almost want to squirm right here and now in my office chair just thinking about it!!!!!!!!

Stupid, moran, idiotic son of a bitch!!!!!!

Obama is not better, as it turns out.

Just a little fricking-fracking slicker is all.

REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!

February 11, 2010
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Hi Tez.

I appreciate everything you said above and only partly understand.

Partly understanding Buddhas teachings because, to tell you the truth, it doesn't speak to my femaleness, my womanhood.

I find most spiritual teachings appeal mostly to male power. Power exists within both genders, even a hermaphrodite! By power i mean strength, truth and authenticity. It has nothing to do with violence.

There just aren't enough female voices as spiritual examples.

"I'm sure that the Buddha would be screaming out Wake Up! Wake Up! if he was walking the earth today. I feel sure the Buddha and Gandhi would have seen eye to eye on what to do non-violently after the wake up call is eventually heeded by the masses."

That i can applaud.

(I'm bloody stubborn eh!)

Please don't think I am discounting what you believe. Yes I read Tolle. Buddhas teachings are on the backburner.

I plead ignorance for now.

"There is only Love or Fear to Choose from"

Now that i totally relate to.

Fear isn't really part of my nature. Not to the point i beleive all the propaganda, or worry excessively about intangible or even tangible things. However I do worry about the present NWO and what our leaders and Power brokers have planned for us. To me this is a real threat to everything i hold dear. This earth and everything that exist upon it in it's NATURAL state. It's all getting so un natural! I only fear what directly threatens me and my family. I get angry. That's my weakness. I admit it and i am working on it.

Violence does beget violence.Sometimes creatures must defend themselves but Humans are putting way to much stock, effort and focus into this tool when it really should be a rare occurance.

Don't you think if Yin and Yang, if the Male and female energies were truly balanced, if both genders recieved as much respect and the voices were balanced there would be less violence?

I'm pretty tired right now. Can't muster much else. ;0/

So thanx Tez for being around and lending your voice. ;0)

tBt!!!!!!!!!

REVOLUTION!!

I don't own a gun. I won't go there. I'm trying to do as Tez says above. It starts at home. Love, understanding and taking back our right to a good life and sharing with eachother of course. Freedom from slavery ya know?!

This ain't gonna be easy but if we join together and spread the word we can overcome!

Be well!

February 11, 2010
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What is so sad to me and so common in my country, the USA, is that we are divided and pick a side that we feel is the better side, gosh both sides have so much blood on their hands, that it makes me wonder who anyone can side with either one....

Honestly, what are people thinking? Both parties are so corrupt that they stink to high heaven....

Why do we do this?

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I don't know what we can do about the current situation. If we 'revolt', they will only declare Martial Law... and that would put us in the worst position possible.

Don't think a lot of people realize how much of our rights and freedoms we signed over when they created 'Homeland Security'.

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I believe you just said it Redblonde...people just do not know or they just do not care and maybe both. I am frustrated with some of most educated and intelligent people around me, they simply think i am bit off my rocker, I do not even hint around anymore bout it, I am crazy I guess...I no longer talk bout it.

Things are only going to get worse if people do not care....

February 14, 2010
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Could have been alot of reasons.

Just looked up the GDP for the USA for 2009..... not so bad compared to 2008.

2009 (balance) -40.2 Billion

Exports 142.7 Billion

Imports 182.9 Billion

2008 (balance) -767.5 Billion

Exports 906.0 Billion

Imports 1,67.0 TRILLION

Okay... 2008 is when the 'BLING-BLING ERA' bubble burst... People were already feeling the eventually meltdown by the end of 2007, but, the effects of that really became noticeable in 2009 with the massive layoffs, banks starting to fail... etc.

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oops that didn't come out so that you could understand it.

2009 Balance = -$40.2 Billion

Exports = $142.7 Billion

February 14, 2010
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The trade imbalance has come down drastically... which is better for the USA ... but that is because no one could afford to buy anything last year... then the other countries started to cry and whine that the USA was being 'protectionistic'... meaning keeping our money to ourselves rather than spending it.

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But to go from an Imbalance of -$767.5 billion to - $40.2 billion has been just a drastic change that we and other countries could and really can not handle that.. Greece, Portugal, Spain and Iceland are failing... I believe Greenland already has failed... and I am not too sure what happenend to Dhubai...

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I have heard that parts of the USA were going to Canada, another to Russia, one part to the EU and one to Mexico, is this true? Has anyone heard of this?

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Don't forget China... since we owe them like 3 Trillion in loans.

Ah yes, the 'selling out' of America...

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