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Are we heading for a worldwide depression/meltdown?
June 10, 2010
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Andii,

I can understand
where you are coming from in talking about the situation, but not
sure why anyone would say, "people are cancer", and things of that
nature.

We are all
different and I view of the world will vary based on where we are
in that world.

Cary

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Well
you did HURT me and others here and let's be honest...ok it was you
opinion and it was also an attack...I was not going to attack back
but you came back and reposted it again knowing it would cause
another proem...so it is what it is...if you dish it out
there...your going to get back the same....I do not believe your
sorry...but thanks just the same.

The positive
thinking movement and brainwashing movement....I never heard of
this but I am now very interested...gosh that is one way to really
warp and hide the truth...I once had someone from this movement or
whatever it is say to me....you were an abuser in a past
life...that is why you were abused in this one...that is the kind
of sick twisted thinking that goes on with many wo take this to
that kinda of extreme...a lot of blaming the victim stances and is
just plainm sick.

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I am
not the cause of all the horrible things that go on in the
world...I am not causing it to fall apart cause I am n ot thinking
negative thoughts...neither is anyone else here? Who is? Well that
is quite obvious....its the elite who are going and who are
desytroying our earth and who will do whateveer it takes to have
more money and power and control....

June 10, 2010
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What
can we do to be happy in the midst of this world-wide degeneration?
I don't want to live in a bubble, but sometimes it's preferable. To
me, anyway. I don't watch the news all the time because I can't
stand to. I watch it once or twice a week, catch the inane news on
Yahoo, and call it good. If I did watch it all the time, because of
my tendency to dwell, I would probably go crazy(er). I peek at it
just to keep informed.

The only thing I
have done in the past year is to learn how to live without
technology, in case that ever happens. That's all I know that I can
do. I made my own soap!!! I know some people that would rather
dwell on the negative, instead of moving forward. I know some that
are ready to fold up thier tents because we have a black president,
like that's the end of the world!! So- how can we think happy,
creative thoughts, productive thoughts, and stay informed without
being in denial?

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There
are a lot of people who hate us for talking bout this...I been
called an conspiracy nut and worse by the very people who like
cary...who say the same exact things to me in face to face...who
call me mentally ill and worse...I am tired of being viewed as not
right in the head...know what? I am not mentally ill...cause I know
how to connect a few dots and see the predators for who they
are...

I seen this same
exact behavior in my abusers growing up who painted me as a problem
cause I was always crying and not what they feel I should be in
life...who called me names that were not true...like dum and spacey
and etc...they did this to hold me down...to control me and keep me
from being who I should of been...cause they needed a scapegoat to
be ok withj who they were...know how long it took me to see this?
To claim my life and try to somehow piece together something? I am
still tryting deperatly to put back my life from those who tried to
destroy me...

I see a lot of
common denominators in abusive people...scapegoating is across the
board and its familiar to me....

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I am
done here now...I am sure now a lot of people will come out and
attack me....do what you will with this info...post or not...its up
to you who see the truth...my health comes before message
boards...

June 10, 2010
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Bfg,

I can appreciate
how you feel. Especially in light of your past. People are going to
think what they do so, I wouldn't worry much about it. The
naysayers will find out eventually that their reluctance to go
against the grain has cost them dearly. Hope I'm wrong but I don't
think so. I've spent so much time over the past couple of yeas
looking into the corruption that it had affected my peace of mind
to a point where I found that I needed to back off to conserve what
remains of my sanity.

There's is a limit
to what we as individuals can do. Being self employed affords me
the opportunity to do a little more than the average working stiff
who has no say in what is deducted from their cheques. Without
disclosing details, I choose to not conform whenever I'm given the
opportunity & wish more would/could do the same. Just living as
freely as I can under the circumstances but it's not all together
easy, I'll admit. There are stumbling blocks that one will
encounter along the way. It's going to be interesting to see what
eventually transpires in the big picture.

Meanwhile, just
hang on & try to enjoy the show.

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Oh, I
meant to give you the ol cyberhug (bfg) for what it's worth. I
think that you're a good soul. Try to keep some hope in your heart
that we'll get through it all come hell or high water. The 'fat
lady' hasn't sung just yet.

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(((((Craig and co))))))))thank you from my heart...I just need
a break from this ..... I appreciate you posting to me. What I fail
to learn us to ignore bullies...I need to let it go...hard for
me...always has been and thet just delight in taunting me...cause
they can I guess...

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(((BFG)))

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Here's something that Americans should be interested
in:

June 10, 2010
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When
the People fear their Government, there is Tyranny .. When the
Government fears the People, there is Liberty. [ Thomas Jefferson ]
"God Bless America"

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(((BFgirl)))

I've learned that
sometimes when I feel like I'm being bullied, I'm actually reacting
to a past hurt. So I want to respectfully disagree with your belief
that you have to learn to ignore bullies and share something I've
learned about myself as maybe it applies to you. Only you of course
can tell. For me, I've grown by learning to confront those I feel
bullied by so that I can differentiate the two. Much of the time
I've learned, I'm reacting to a past hurt- it's like a volcano
erupting.

Cary is trying to
make amends to the hurt you felt, BFgirl. I really don't think he
meant to hurt you.

andii

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I
don't recall ever seeing him bully anyone either so, I don't think
that was necessarily his intent. I can see how you felt as though
were being told to hush-up though. A surreptitious attempt at
censoring your speech. In any event, it didn't work so, I wouldn't
sweat it bfg.

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Seriously guys,

I didn't say
anyone should hush up, or that BFG isn't entitled to her belief's.
I simply read a bold statement that "people are cancer" and reacted
to the negative energy I felt.

I never even
entered into any debate about the oil crisis, the state of the
world, etc. I simply said that I believe that a negative
consciousness can actually add to all of the bad things that are
happening. I don't have my head in the sand, I am not a member of
some cult that thinks the government is bad, or anything
else.

I have no idea how
any of this blew up in to such a crazy rant about someone feeling
attacked and insulted. BFG, you keep talking about how certain
someone is going to attack you? I'm certainly not that person and
have no desire to see anyone attack anyone.

I feel like I am
missing some big point here, just don't get it.

Cary

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You're not the only one, Cary.

I don't see how
she got from what you said to all the conclusions she made about
you, how you treated her, etc etc etc. I, in fact, think you have
been bullied as a result of all of that, not her.

I also don't see
what belonging to a country club has to do with it. Anymore than
living in a trailer does (sorry, tbt but just trying to use the
same logic you did).

Its interesting
reading, none the less.

Glad I'm not the
only one scratching me head.

sd

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oops....MY head, not me.

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Thanks SD,

Funny, I had not
even seen the Country Club comment. Even more interesting how we
ALL, yes me too, draw conclusions.

I grew up in
public housing and have talked about that and the fact that we got
commodities, before there were food stamps. I have worked hard for
everything I have in my life and give back everyday.

Because I try and
keep my mind in a positive place and follow a spiritual path that
teaches me to try and remain positive... well you know the rest of
the story.

It's all good!
Great to have good friends here and I am not upset or angry with
anyone here. That is the great thing about this site, stuff comes
up and comes out. I have gone off in the past on some folks I am
now very close with; I apologized and ask them to forgive my
temper, and they were kind and gracious about it.

((Sdesigns))

Cary

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This
is my thread...I will not be run off on my own thread...we don't
agree and prolly never will..this is the last time I am going to
waste my eneergy here talking about it...

I am
done...finished...so let's move on and agree to disagree. We see
things differently...all I ask is to be left alone...is that
ok?

Now...back to the
issues...caraway, andii and hopefully msguided too...tbt...and
anyone else who sees this for what it is...can we still talk
here?

I am interested in
this brainwashing movement that uses the idea of positive
thinking...very interested..

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Craigco...you seemed very informed on this to me...I appreciate
your support and I want to thank you for the hugs and infO...please
keep sharing:)

You too
alien...wherever you are...I sense your good heart as well...funny
how you can tell someones good intentions through just
words...amazing to me:)

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bfg:
I don't see where any one is trying to run you off of "your"
thread. I think part of the problem is that you jump to conclusions
and make inferences and act on them. I think it may be helpful to
just take the words that are written here, and not be so defensive.
It seems that you start to fight back when there really isn't a
fight to be had. I think you got yourself pretty worked up and
starting drawing conclusions that just snowballed.

As chelonia
mentioned on another thread, perhaps you can use this experience to
improve communication skills. This site is supposed to be about
effective and healthy communication, and that is why I object when
people start tearing another apart, especially when there is no
cause.

People can have
dif ideas and opinions without getting personal and insulting.
Maybe "your" thread can proceed on a better note now that the air
has been cleared. If someone disagrees with you it doesn't mean
they don't like you.

sd

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Caraway...I would just like to let it go...we don't
agree...that is ok...let's put it behind us...your entitled to your
view even if it hurt me...you are..I am just not in a place to
debate it...I am not strong enough to do that...I have no desire to
even try...I have too much on my plate to even try...I do want to
say I am sorry about attacking you back with the comment about your
family...as angry as I was...not so much now..that was not right
and it was hurtful and I am very sorry...I have no idea why I got
so over the edge and I did not mean to do that...I should of just
igorned the comment and kept talking about the topic at hand...we
don't agree...let's leave it to that ok? I do wish you well with
your step son...my brother is a drug user and mentally ill and
quite dangerous...I know sadly all about that....peace

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The
secret is a book that talks about how if you only believe and or
have faith...your be happy...have enough in life and that its just
yourself who gets in the way of having that dream home or whatever
it is that you want in life....

Problem...how many
people died while yet children who only seen the good in their
abusive parents who abused them and even sometimes murdered them?
So they were not positive enough in life that they basically killed
themselves?! Wow...that let's the predatory people off the
hook...and it makes the victims the predator....how disgustingly
sickn vile and evil!

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Posted this on the other side as well:

Ten Things You
Need (But Don't Want) To Know About the BP Oil Spill

http://www.globalresearch.ca/i.....;aid=19408

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For
those who don't want to read that article here's a basic
summary:

1. $270 mill made
by the rig owner as a result of the leaking oil.

2. BP's terrible
safety record

3. Oil spill just
a cost of doing business for BP

4. Interior dept.
at best neglectful & at worst complicit

5. Dismal clean-up
prospects

6. BP has no real
clean-up plan

7. BP &
Tranocean trying to take away survivors' rights to sue

8. BP bets on risk
to employees to save money & doesn't care if they get
sick

9. Environmental
damage could even include a climatological catastrophe

10. No one knows
what to do and it will happen again!

I'm not very
surprised by anything anymore. It's only business as usual for the
money people. No silver linings to be found.

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