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"An Inconvenient Truth" ... this site's impact... 2??? What's up with that?
February 9, 2007
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Has anyone else seen that on their screen? Only two? From all of us?

February 9, 2007
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Hi mzrella, I read all about the global warming and how it is impacting our world. It makes me want to do my part.

February 9, 2007
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I read it. Tried to register, and was denied a password.

I suspect you have to be registered as a democrat, and I'm not.

This bothered me deeply. I've tried to make contact for a couple weeks now. No reply as of yet.

But, I'm making an effort to do my part, more so now. If ya think about it, even if you don't believe any of this, being ecologically minded can't hurt. I think it's all about habits and I've noticed I've got some obnoxious ones regarding the environment.

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February 9, 2007
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I had already seen the movie so didn't investigate that link. Not being in the U.S., I wouldn't be able to register for any political party there, even if I was inclined to.

I'm with you, Free, on believing it's a good thing to clean up our act. I've been reading "Heat" by George Monbiot and making some efforts to do better myself.

February 9, 2007
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What link? What Site?

February 9, 2007
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If we are well read on the subject, already doing what we can, we may not need to see the movie and all that... I was just surprised at the low number... I don't remember what happened when I clicked on there, but I have a feeling that number doesn't change even when you do get to pledge. Is there a follow up? I didn't get any through email. Or are we supposed to go to the website after we see the film? I'm not sure. Maybe that's why the number isn't climbing.

Free- EVERYONE has some bad habits regarding the environment! Geeze, I should hope registered Democrats don't feel they are immune! (I wasn't one until recently... I was an Independent- but I want to vote in primaries. Especially now.)

Isn't it all scary? I guess that's what the movie is all about. I'm just afraid I will watch it and it won't give us any empowerment to make change- like "oh you can try to recycle your newspapers and bottles but they all end up in the same landfill unbeknownst to you," or somesuch. My coworkers are really disgusted because our organization (a very large municipal one) has distributed blue recycling bins, but dumps their paper in with all their other trash. I truly hope they get fined up the kazoo.

Free- do you think this movie should be shown in schools? I think something like it should. Kids are the ones who are really going to have to deal with this.

My apartment is in part of Manhattan that the film says will be flooded in no time so that's a little unsettling. Should I renovate or move? I'm not trying to be funny here, it all seems very unreal to me. Frightening. I'm very sad about the drowning polar bears.

Then again, I'm very sad about what I hear about Darfur, but also feel powerless. I don't have a million dollars to donate, or even have great amounts of time to devote to these things. What does someone who is a regular person do in the face of these things? Sometimes writing a check doesn't feel like enough.

Recycling is something I do, but I'm not sure about the outcome (I'll have to check out the movie and see if they mention it). Being a vegetarian helps a lot, and if you can't do that just cutting down on meat would help the environment if everyone did it. But can we reverse the damage? I doubt it.

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February 9, 2007
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WD- it's on the upper right corner of AAC splash page... you can go to the web site of the movie, the url is there.

February 9, 2007
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oops, I just checked. They give you the url after you pledge and then it disappears! How dumb. I don't remember it either!

February 9, 2007
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Hi MJ....

I was the first one that showed an "impact on this site".

I had already seen the movie but decided to check it out anyway.

I honestly don't remember what the process was when I clicked on it...but I am a registered Democrat...if that made a difference?

Yes, I believe we all need to do our part. Every little bit helps.

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February 11, 2007
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I haven't seen the movie, but I know government bureaucrats well enough to know that the whole global warming issue is being used as a marketing ploy to increase government control of the economy.

I know enough science to know that people are responsible for no more than a tiny, insignificant fraction of whatever global warming may be occurring. I've also heard that you could acheive the same effect of reducing carbon dioxide by planting trees as you could by regulating industry, yet you never hear this option talked about.

I know enough about computerized models to know that we cannot accurately predict the weather more than a few days out -- how can we hope to reliably predict the climate decades in advance, especially since we don't understand all the input and output variables involved?

Don't be fooled by all the hype about global warming. That's all it is -- hype.

February 11, 2007
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Why are the icebergs melting that never did before in Patagonia? if we are not experiencing global warming.

I think our ocean here in the pacific Northwest is being affected. The bacteria growths, the fish dying, the birds dying. Something is changing. I know here by now, I would have felt like a drowned rat by now, am not getting sick of the rain because there hasn't been any. Something is impacting our environment. I am not a scientist but I am listening.

February 11, 2007
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I haven't seen the movie yet--mainly because I am a scientist so I'm kind of like "Gee Al, it's about time you caught up what the rest of us have known for quite a while now."

Gotta disagree with you on this one Seeker.

February 11, 2007
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And Seeker, by dismissing Global Warming as Hype intended to allow greater governmental control over the economy you are utterly defaming and slandering all of the scientists who have given their lives to study this material.

You are describing a kind of outlandish conspiracy theory there, Seeker.

February 11, 2007
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I hear what you are saying, seeker. There's definitely two sides to this one, and it's really hard as a consumer to know who to believe.

I just think that it can't HURT to become more environmentally conscious as individuals. yes, only one person would not make an impact, but it's really the only thing that one person, who isn't sure, can do.

If all the "unsure-ites" did their small part, maybe an impact would be made. It really can't hurt to try a little harder right?

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February 11, 2007
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Seek, my old friend,

I recommend you see the movie and then critique it. That would be the scientific way, wouldn't it?

February 12, 2007
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Kroika, I'm still waiting for my netflix reservation to come... it's high on my list, but I haven't seen the movie yet. But I'm curious what other people though. Did you see it? What did you think?

Personally, for me it will be like preaching to the converted and will serve to educate me further about something that already worries me. So I'm afraid to watch it, but I feel like it is a responsibility of sorts. I wish I could get permission to show it where I work. I think young people should see it. They can make up their own minds to get other sources of information, but I think they should be made aware. Not as many are as you might think. So I'm going to look into the public performance rights on that film. First I'd have to see it, of course!

Some kids I know read books on global warming and pollution for school, maybe the movie will compliment that part of their education. Doesn't sound like tons of fun, but kids seem to respond to media images sometimes and in some cases it leads them to reading.

I'm glad that Gore is dedicating his time to this cause, and I do think that he has gotten the attention of lay people with this film- people who don't know much about the threats the environment faces, or people like me who maybe didn't know how great the degree was. Or how immediately we are feeling the effects.

It seems like common sense to me more than politics. Industrial societies have been depleting resources and polluting the natural environment and now the entire planet is paying the price. Will we ever redeem ourselves?

February 12, 2007
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lolli-

Did you write down, or do you remember the url for the movie that came on after you signed in? I'd like to visit the site.

thanks,
ella

February 12, 2007
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Ella,

I'm sorry, I didn't.

Maybe you could try "googling" or somthing.....perhaps it will be there somewhere?

Lolli

February 12, 2007
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http://www.stopglobalwarming.o.....atures.asp

You can see the trailer for the movie at this link.

Lolli, Congrats on being the first one to make an impact on this site.

February 12, 2007
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Hi mzrella,

Yes, I did see the movie back in the summer when it first came out. I felt that efforts were made to have it not be too overwhlemingly depressing, and to end on a positive note, and yet it left me sad. Polar bears are drowning, because the Arctic sea ice is melting and it is so far between ice floes that the polar bears lose strength and sink.

I have read in other sources, the fate of other species whose demise is directly attributable to seasons coming at the wrong time (see "The Weather Makers" by Tim Flannery). Here in my province of British Columbia we have lost millions of hectares of forest to pine beetle infestation, because our winters in the last few years have not been cold enough to kill off the pine beetle, which has spread far north of its original habitat.

So, I found "An Inconvenient Truth" to be as you have said, a filler-in of details about something I already knew a bit about.

Since the film came out, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's report, which was released a couple of weeks ago, made it clear that the consensus of the vast majority of climate scientists is that human activity is very likely the cause of climate change.

I have just finished reading George Monbiot's new book "Heat: How to Stop the Planet From Burning". I would recommend it as a companion volume to read after seeing Gore's movie. Monbiot crunches the numbers and explains the science. He goes further in describing specific actions we and our governments (and our businesses) can take to reduce the buildup of greenhouse gases enough to stabilize temperatures "before catastrophic runaway warming ensues" (quote from David Suzuki's jacket blurb).

The converted need to be preached to as much as anyone else, because a lot of us, while being concerned, are unaware just how energy-sloppy our lifestyles are. I could go on....

I think I will re-watch An Inconvenient Truth soon. I'd be glad to discuss it with you after you see it. I understand what you mean about being afraid to see it, and yet feeling it is a responsibility 'of sorts'. I agree.

February 12, 2007
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Hey Folks!

I'm glad some of you have seen the link.

The 'pledge' to see it, is really just a way for everyone on the internet who is interested in 'following' global warming to visualize how many people have clicked & submitted their 'pledge' to see that particular movie about global warming... but it doesn't mean that the people who 'pledge to see the movie' will actually see the movie though.

And if you 'pledge' you will not get an immediate email response, membership, etc... it's just a numbers & information gathering.

It's a FLASH component on the homepage, so if you don't have flash, it will not work. That FLASH component once you click the +Pledge To See part of the image (upper right corner), asks for your name, email, date of birth & zip code. Maybe a little fancier than it needs to be, if you ask me... probably thus all the confusion. But, for all I know , they may send a blanket email in the future to all those who gave email addresses, but I truly don't know.

The important thing, is to educate ourselves. The more people who are educated, the more people can make better choices & support folks who are helping to create those better choices.

You certainly don't need to be a Democrat though! That would be silly. It has nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with survival on a fragile planet. The Earth is destructable, and scientists are our eyes & ears & wisdom in what we can do. I do think politics play a role as far as leading & organizing people in reducing our impacts however. That is true. But a conspiracy in helping the human race to survive & not destroy the planet? Probably not.

Government does help to conglomerate choices & helps make choices available... that's nothing new. And not just in regards to health & economy. It isn't 1 or 2 things or 3 things that "people do" that are harming the planet... it's a conglomerate of everything & the sheer numbers of people doing those "things"... like, a couple of the big things: eliminating billions of acres of forest & polluting the atmosphere.

I made the decision to put the 'ad' to learn about global warming on the site, because next to people hurting each other & helping each other (this site's purpose), I think the next most important human issue is our Planet.

Do I have a show of hands in who 'cares' about our planet?

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February 12, 2007
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Both hands up here!

February 12, 2007
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Thanks MJ.....I wasn't sure what I was getting myself into by clicking on the link....but decided...what the hell!

February 12, 2007
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Hands up here. Just for the record... I was the third one on the site to show an impact! And I'm a Republican- well now an Independent. Tough, it really makes no difference.

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Though, not tough.

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