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Afterlife experience or something else?
September 11, 2007
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I have to write bout this, something had happened to me 15 years ago and I want to know what you think here.

Once when I was in college, during the summer, I rented out a old house to take some classes that were needed for fall graduation, and were not offered in the fall, I only had so much money left...so this was my lifesaver here.

I had some friends who rented an apt across campus and we visited often to study and prepare for the big one, we all were pretty worried as we had to do very well on this one and there were no makeups or what have you here. SO we all were very stressed out.

We had a mutual friend who lived in Europe who chocked to death at dinner. This knowledge was never brought to our attention by our friends mother, who thought it be best to wait till after our exmas to give us the bad news.

My friends mother was visiting and wished us well as we left my friends apt for class to take our exam. However during this visit our other friend whose alarm went off across the hall went off and the maintainance men had a very hard time trying to turn it off, he said it was odd, could not figure out why it went off, he said it was prolly dust.

Anyhow, we went to our class, took the test, either one of us felt good bout the test, one guy asked the professor if he was in a bad mood when he prepared it. Hours went by and we were done...my friend dropped me off at my house and I went upstairs to go lay down....

I never had the chance, I went upstairs and I took off my shoes, I sat on the bed weeping thinking I was going to fail this course and have to take another full year, which I had no money for.

I then heard a voice, it came from downstairs and it kept saying my name over and over, I got up and walked to the hallway, it kept saying my name over and over, I felt trapped, scared and not really able to react. I then went back into my room, I sat on the bed again, I then looked up on the corner of the room and seen a mans hand stretching out from the corner, a white mans hand with a brown suit and white shirt underneath reaching for me...I have no idea how long this went on...I never told anyone till bout maybe ten years later.

In all my life I never heard or see anything, nor have I since, so I know its not in my mind or some impairment, I was not drinking and was not using drugs or anything here...

Interesingly enough, it was the same day our friend died...I did get an A on the test btw...and so did my friend.

I am not so sure what happened here, I have never been one to believe in ghosts. But i now consider they do exist cause of this experience, of I wonder, if maybe the severe stress was the reason here and it was just an concidnece maybe?

Wonder what you all thought and if any you have ever had a simliar experience here?

September 11, 2007
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note here,....my friend called me up a few days later, when I got back home and told me she had died. I have never really sat down and connected the dots here til recently, when I did, I just cried for hours.

September 11, 2007
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A little more info, i forgot to add on here....

The smoke alarm was in our deceased friends room, it was errie, I really can't explain it, it was different somehow, I can't explain it but she was angry with my friend, rightfully so too, she had moved out and across the hallway cause they were not getting along...she too was hard to get along with, I suspect she had abuse issues too, looking back anyhow here...

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September 11, 2007
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thoughts anyone????

September 11, 2007
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Well, I'm gonna take a risk here.

A "small stream" separates this plane in which we exist, from the next. When we are ready to cross it, those who have been in our lives and i mean MANY of our lives await on the opposite side and show the step, as we have become accostomed to physical constraint within our physical bodies and have "forgotten" how to step. They meet us because we are also afraid to step.

In your case, somebody simply reached across the "stream" to you and touched you.

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September 11, 2007
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Interesting idea Free, so maybe it was someone else who died who was trying to reach out to me maybe? Like they were stuck in time or maybe even lived there at one time? Mmmm...interesting.

September 11, 2007
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oh, SOB, I have what some would consider to be very strange thoughts on all of this. In a gnostic setting I'm "normal" but anyplace else this discussion usually leads to "free you're a total nutcase" which I suppose might be true lol.

But yeah, someone in a different plane crossed your path. It happens all the time but most don't even realize it, kind of like: when somebody says "hey- listen- hear that?" and you listen and then you hear that. Well, the sound was there all along but you weren't acknowledging it and couldn't until you specifically "looked" for the sound. We know how to cock our heads and listen for something, but we don't how to cock our minds to "listen" to occurrences in other planes of existence.

Every so often we accidentally "tune in" and voila. A connection occurs.

It's frightening kuz we don't understand it, but intriguing kuz it doesn't make sense within the realm of our physical constraints and being. Generally speaking, as far as we are concerned, if it can't be seen, heard, tasted, touched, or smelled, it doesn't exist.

How silly this is if ya think about it. For example a person blind at birth will never comprehend the difference between green and red, not like you and I do- we see these colors and differentiate with our sight. A blind person will never experience color vision kuz that sense is not available to the blind person. But obviously, this doesn't mean color does not exist.

Yet, many a people will claim ghosts etc. don't exist kuz they can't be sensed by one or more of our 5 physical senses. to me this just doesn't jive.

To me what makes sense in your case is that a human spirit currently existing in a different plane than ours crossed your path and you, though briefly, were able to sense the intersection.

Told ya SOB- I'm a nutcase!

but a harmless one I assure you.

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September 12, 2007
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I don't think that you are a "nut case".

It is very hard to describe that which is beyond the space-time dimensions through which our minds are so conditioned by our sense organs.

September 12, 2007
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Hi Free,
I liked the way you used the 'color' reference. So true, so true. Things happen around us all the time, we just don't pay attention to them. Children are notorious for seeing things and experiencing things (ie; invisible friends) because they are 'new' and haven't been conditioned yet. I can't tell you how many times my children would say things and I'd wonder; "where did that come from?" Of course now we're delving into reincarnation. Which I believe in too. Your "nut case" in crime friend, Hepburn

September 12, 2007
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because they are 'new' and haven't been conditioned yet

I firmly believe in that too and that by the time we are adults, we lose that and so much else too...

I don't think your a nut at all here, what i think is crazy is not thinking and accepting what most of society believes in...

I find it rather refreshing!!!

But I wonder why just that time and place?

September 12, 2007
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I would talk to a ghost...or whoever they were, I would have alot of questions for them, but at that time, i was just frozen, sort of stuck, not able to scream or think or do much else, I was sorta of like in limbo, I do remember walking around the half empty home, sorta of like a daze or something.

September 15, 2007
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Fascinating.

September 16, 2007
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I have heard lately that when a house, usually an older is renovated and a murder or something like that has happened in the house, spirits can be trapped with them and they can do much harm to you, both physical and mental.

I would of laughed at this prior to my experience, but I am not so sure anymore now...it was an older home and it was being renovated, that is the only reason I was able to afford to rent it that summer.

The apts in town, were always having work done as well on them, it was a student apt building where the alarm went off/ it was her actual apt, and the alarm was in her bedroom...not just the apt itself.

She and my friend and some others in her soriety were not getting along and she had recently moved out of my friends apt across the hall, I have heard that spirits can move away from the house, into the woods and wander, the house I was renting was not far, I use to walk down the alley to my friends apt in less than five mins or so.

Sadly, we spoke badly bout her that summer, we shouldn't have...she was hard to get along with, pushed peoples buttons but god we never thought she die that summer. She was way too young too die, had so much going for her too, I will never forget her, I dreamt of her a few times after that, I dreamt I was apoloizing to her for talking behind her back, I felt so bad.

September 16, 2007
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Hi survivor

I don't laugh at this- personally I think it's kinda funny when people DO laugh at this stuff.

A ghost existed in my former residence- I'm certain of it. I spoke to it sometimes. Told it to knock it off, it was scaring me and people in the family. It knocked it off. It was a nice ghostie I think kuz a mean one wouldn't have knocked it off.

The incidence that freaked the family out the most- we were gonna go to beach or somewhere- I went into the kitchen- husband, kids, friends all in the living room- dog is there- and I hear all the howling from the peoples and "mom come here it looks like Misha(the dog)is smoking there's steam coming out of her nose and mouth!" and they were all freaked out. I hollered "ghostie knock it off!" in an angry tone and it stopped.

Ya see, ghostie wanted others to acknowledge it's existence maybe- ghostie is very cold and being right next to the dog made that happen. that's what I think. Or some variation of that. I used to say things like "ghostie I know you're here I can feel ya, I just don't have the ability to communicate I'm sorry- I wish I did"

As far as being trapped- I dunno. I think a small "stream" separates this plane of existence from another plane, and for some reason, at death not all of us step over it. maybe kuz we're not "done", tht death was untimely, that we had not completed that which we set out to complete, weren't ready to leave, etc.

I would avoid a ghost I thought was angry or vengeful. I would be terrified of my inability to understand, comprehend, sense. to me being in the presence of an angry ghost would be like a blind and deaf person in a house and smelling smoke. Is it a candle? or the house burning therefore threatening my life?

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September 16, 2007
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Free...

Good to hear your experience was a good one and not a bad one, I have heard of those bad experiences. who is to say it is not true too, but I am sure there are people who do this for attention too and so you just never really know.

I have heard that dogs have a special ability to sense them, actually all animals do. Interestng bout the smoke!!!

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My long-ago exbf had a house before I knew him, which he believed was haunted. He told me of several experiences that happened in that house which were not explainable by the usual materialist worldview.

Like WD, I find this stuff fascinating ~~ but I am kinda scared of the idea of encountering ghosties and so I am glad that thus far I have not (or not been aware of it). Free, I wish I would have your courage to tell the ghostie to knock it off. I will try to remember that if I ever encounter one who is scaring me.

September 17, 2007
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I did not feel fear at what I had seen or heard, I actually really just felt kinda of stuck in time with the experience, and I didn't tell anyone or think much bout it afterwards, I put it away somewhere up there with things I was not going to face maybe...I think I convinced myself to forget bout it maybe.

I would of suspected the opposite reaction from myself, I even slept in the room the next night, it didn't really phase me till I got out of there and many years later.

I know, that is really odd, it strikes me as odd just writing it down here.

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