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23 Minutes in Hell..incredible!
November 27, 2007
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23 Minutes in Hell - Bill Wiese Hell Testimony (Extended Hell Version)

This is a website to a video link, i hope this goes through. This is incredible...but i believe it!

November 27, 2007
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I had a 30 minute interview with the Devil a few years ago.

November 27, 2007
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Really, I did. I think I did anyway.

Didn't believe in the Devil before that. New Ager, you know.

Intellectually, I can't think of any reason to believe in the Devil--he ought not to exist.

But then there is that troubling interview.

November 28, 2007
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Did his wife ever call the paramedics? I seem to have missed that part. I mean if I had found my husband screaming and writhing on the floor and saying he was dying. And I think it was mentioned that he had been doing his for some time...I certainly would have called the paramedics! Or was that against their religion?

Not sure if I believe in the devil or in hell, per se, but I am sure that evil exists. But then I would only have to reflect upon what my mother did to me and others.

November 28, 2007
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(((red blonde))) I'm sorry about what your mom did. I don't know that I've read much about you, I've been off and on lately.

I did watch the video this evening. Sure does make ya think doesn't it. I have always believed in Heaven and hell. The video depicted it as I have been taught it is also. But then hubby got home from work at the end and said "what the hell is that". I told him it was hell to which he smarted off a few words and went to eat his dinner.

red blonde... ya know, I don't know for sure now that you mentioned it. I want to say no she did not but am not certain of that. I don't think for religious reasons tho. i think if she did not it was because she believed what he told her and she was more worried about his experience and what he told her. I do remember that when she told her part of it tho, she was not overly emotional or anything. Maybe just how she speaks?

November 28, 2007
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Devil is an conveitent scapegoat for mankind.

November 28, 2007
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The devil made me say that! he he

November 28, 2007
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yes lets blame the devil for EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

November 28, 2007
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I have 60 minutes of hell, twice a day, during my commute to work.

I'll watch the video at lunch.

November 28, 2007
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I am a christian but I have never blamed the Devil for something that I have done I realize that I have a choice to make and its up to me to make the right one

November 28, 2007
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I say better safe than sorry. All I know is that I do not want to go there!!!

He talks about it being separation from God, all things good. I can't imagine being so tormented for eternity. Glad you all took a look. I thought it was interesting and truthful...he does not seem like a quack to me at all. How scary for his wife though, but something inside of her told her he was telling the truth.

November 28, 2007
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rw>>>i am not meaning all christians< but alot of them do do that< and so do alot of others who are not chrsitans too< like some will blame their karma and then blame it on the cycle of death and some other person from another life< there is always someone blaming something outside of themselves for something they did and rather not take responsiblity for< you know? i used to be scared of hell< but then i realized that it was made up to control me and scare me< so no peronally i am more afraid of nothing being there< no reunions and no getting see my loved ones again< hurts so bad sometimes it makes me wish that i still believed in god and the after life>>>i wish i did< i try too but i just can"t so off to hell i go i guess!

November 29, 2007
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what do you do when you want to believe it all but can"t and fear going to hell?

November 29, 2007
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and then sometimes know your hell bound< so god is going to send me to hell cause i wanted to believe it all but couldn"t? that to me< is rather cold and heartless< and makes me sad and even angry!

December 1, 2007
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Islam's prophet, Muhammad, also claimed he went on a horse to see Heaven and Hell. Do you believe thats true too? If thats not true, why do you believe this is? Really. Does it make sense? You guys just pick and choose what you want to believe.

This is the link to one of this videos (linked on his website).

You wanna give yourself to Jesus? Please do, for verses like this:

Ezekiel 23:19-20 NET

Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering the days of her youth when she engaged in prostitution in the land of Egypt. She lusted after their genitals as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions.

This Bill guy is a liar. Its a gimic to raise money so people will buy his book
and video and stuff, invite him to church lectures so he can buy that big house in New york or become famous and get attention.

Here's a comment on that video:

God is like a dictator that doesnt care what you do until you die. Then he behaves like Kim Jhon IL in a manner that he will give you the worst punishment ever if you dont WORSHIP him. C'mon thats cheap.

SEAN

Who wants to worship Kim Jhon IL?

Some quotes from the video for those who cant or didnt want to see the video:

"It happened between midnight and morning. All of a sudden, felt like I dropped into a prison cell. Bars on the door like in a real jail. No strength in his body. Two huge ugly terrifying creatures - reptilish, 12 feet tall, scales in his body, huge head, big feat, big teeth, big eyes, slime dripping from his mouth, cursing God. I didnt realize they were Demons. The cell was so hot, but I didnt die. The temperature was 300 degrees ("I just knew"). One Demon threw me into a wall.

...

The guy was having a DREAM, for god sake.

Do you guys really believe you're any different than Muslims? People dont look outside their own lives. They think what they're experiencing and feeling is whats true globally. Its not. Thanks to you guys now this Bill W. will be a millionaire and have his own private jet and stuff.

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Hi OMW, how have you been? Heh, back to some friendly religious debate (I was bored). You wrote:

>> I can't imagine being so tormented for eternity.

Why would a kind all loving God do that? If you think a boss who burns his employees in a 350'F oven is a bad boss, then you should also think that a God who burns his people in Hell is also a bad God.

What do you think. Come on now. God wont put you in a 1500'F furnace trust me. If you think something created this universe, beleive me, its not a petty Hansel and Gretel witch kind of a character. It has to be someone nice.

Somoene who does NOT enjoy or want to burn his creation in fire, just because they didnt believe in him.

December 4, 2007
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Good to see you back guest...think you can drum up Tez for us now, as it is a minus around here without him as well.

I peek in every now and then, but do not post very much anymore.

Aside from religious debate, how has life been treating you?

December 4, 2007
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I know how to bring Tez out of his hidy hole!

Tez, I want to know how my conciousness can exist outside. Is it done by opening a jar of strawberry jam near my kitchen table?

Heh, I'm real bad. Anyway I did have a question for him but I've tired him before. I was wondering whether he believed that animals have external conciousnesses as well and if not, why not - since we are so similiar in our bodies (lungs, heart, skeleton, bones, etc).

Not to go for long debate, because I've tired him a lot and driven him crazy, for which I'll blame myself somewhat because I often dont listen to the other person but then, maybe I do. Ok with me.

Life hasnt been treating me well. I'm starting to realize that its possible I may never be happy. Abused people are never happy, no matter what. It doesnt happen. Next I started thinking about death. I wanted to die and somewhat, still do right now. I'm just thinking about everything.

One good or bad thing that I realized is that, one day my suffering will end, when I die.

I read some opinions of athiests on death, which was interesting. I was glad not to be alone in what I realized about death, how it ends everything. So there... I'm trying to understand death. I dont think I can, until I actually 'play out' a suicide and see my emotions and thoughts when I'm almost about to die. Its like saying, I cant know what the bottom of the pit is like unless I descend the pit with a rope and look at the bottom from as close as I can. I just feel real down, at this point I wouldnt care if I died. Intentional death however is scary right now so I'm holding it off for now.

Anyway, enough about death and all that... how are you doing?

December 5, 2007
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Hi guest,

I think it would be interesting to discuss animals and if they have external conciousness or not, because they seem to be much aware of things than we are. They can sense things that we can't. Wonder why that is?

I am sorry to hear life has not been treating you well. Abuse in any form is difficult to take, especially if it is part of our past. I am very sensitive to it now as well, and find that I can't tolerate it...especially from family members who claim to love me. Then I try to look at it another way. Although this does not excuse their behavior, I try to realize that in some ways all of us have some sort of hang-up. But then I say, ok, and stay away from the person! Lot's of hurt for me in this area, but then it is up to me to make my life better without it...get going in the opposite direction and get on with my life, in spite of.

Then there is depression...do you think that chemically imbalanced depression can actually begin as a child? I get depressed, and sometimes I think that I always have been...chemically depressed that is...as if my brain adapted this way to stress a very long time ago.

Regarding death though, I am not afraid to die, but that is because of my personal belief system.

Hard year this last year...I am looking forward to a better one coming up. Making some changes that wil benefit me and others too. 🙂

Hang in there. They say happiness is a choice...do you believe that it is?

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Well, I must confess that I dabbled a little bit in the occult and Satanism....mostly out of curiousity.

Back in Miami, in the late 70's, my girlfriend personally knew Anton LaVey (writer of the Satanic Bible) and I personally embroidered a crest for the church......

There definently seems to be a "darker side" that one can hone in on.

But now....all of these many years later...perhaps it is no more than our own "shadow side" manifesting itself........

Like I said....I dabbled in this. Didn't really provide me with the absolute wisdom and truth I was seeking.

Nor has looking towards the bible been any more enlightening.

Being raised catholic.....believe me....I have tried and tried over the years....and decades now....to revisit this book that is still, oddly and strangely found in most hotel rooms....(What's up with THAT???)and it just never seems to sit right in my gut. Not ever.

Though I have tried and tried to give this book the benefit of the doubt countless times over the course of my life....actually witnessing the fact that some folks DO actually seem to be able to turn their lives around because of this.....

For me...its just one helluva great fiction writing.

I dunno.

I am reminded of a passage from the book: "Secret Survivors....Uncovering Incest and Its Aftereffects in Women" by E. Sue Blume in which she states in Chapter 2:

Genesis 19:30-36: "And the first born said to the younger.....'Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him that we may preserve the seed of our father....'"

This passage has been notably absent from the commentaries by fundamentalists, who insist that the bible speaks literal truths. How likely is it that this alleged seduction was planned by the children? Just WHOSE fantasy does this sound like?"

I rest my case.

Have tried and tried to give the bible the "benefit of the doubt" COUNTLESS TIMES over the course of my 47 years....and I STILL come up with the same feeling and weird, undeniable pang in my gut...."somethin just ain't right here!!!!!"

In comparison and conversly,....the book that has never failed to ring a clear sense of truth throughout my life was something I read in the first grade...: Aesop's Fables.

(At least "Aesop" had the wherwithall to call if a fable to begin with!!!!)

Just my slant.......

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