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Tez's Farewell!
April 12, 2009
10:27 pm
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Ok I'm taking a break from here, ths is getting too much.

April 13, 2009
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Tez,

Hope you will reconsider. I reached that point last year and decided that I was only hurting me by walking away.

Is it out of the question to ask that guest just not respond to your post and comments and that you ignore his/hers? It would be sad to lose you and seems unnecessary.

Cary

April 13, 2009
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Tez,

You have a right to be here just like anyone else.

Of all the posts to this thread, I have to say that I agree with Destinystar's reply of 4-12. whole-heartidly and second it!

Hope you reconsider your decision.

April 13, 2009
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Hey Everybody,

This is a first-time event on AAC… the first time there has been an ultimatum pitting one poster against another.

But in truth, I have been hoping for years that GG would learn and grow out of this ‘trashing everything’ point of view/state of mind, or whatever it really is. I honestly don’t know, and it doesn’t matter. The resulting crap is the same.

GG – I’ve asked you to stop the negativity and horse-beating of threads and ideas that has become not only common practice with you over the years, but now, it’s 99.9% of what you do on these threads.

I don’t like it. It’s not healthy for you, these boards, or anyone who comes here. Myself included. I want you gone for me and the sake of the site. No one should be asked to tolerate you or stay in spite of you. In my opinion, you have defiled good sense and healthy dialogue far too long.

I do ask that you leave, and not come back to these threads. You have found other places to post your opinions on the internet… I suggest you use those places now, and leave this site.

Goodbye GG.

Thanks, SC

April 13, 2009
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Tez,

I hope you reconsider! Your ideas and insight is very much appreciated!!!!!

Please think it over...

Mari

April 13, 2009
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(big sigh of relief)...

Tez - You're an important presence on this site. I'm hoping you stick around. Love and respect - Shaney

April 13, 2009
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Site Coordinator,

I feel really shocked, sad and angry about you wanting me to leave the site so Tez can come back in. Is that what its all about? I have no current ongoing conflicts with anyone else other than Tez. I was told to leave Tez's Dalai Lama thread and I did. I did not ask Tez to take part in the Reincarnation thread. He did it on his own. Is it my fault?

When you make the stronger person leave a group, this damages mental health for everyone else because it weakens the group and it encourages codependent behaviors. People might think I'm crazy when I say this this is exactly whats happening here. Its like telling the stronger guy to leave the playpen because the little one threw a tantrum and made everyone else upset. But thats fine, if thats what you want to do, I will do it and I will leave. I liked posting my thoughts here. I was used to coming here. I remember KathyG was asked to leave the site too. I dont know why. You have never scolded Tez when he called me names like: asshole, G-hole and wuss. Why SC? And now you're asking me to leave the site? Wow.

I had a question for you, SC: why couldn't you be strong and ask Tez to stop calling me bad names and to stay away from me and from my Reincarnation thread? Are you afraid of him because he's older and appears dominating? It appears so. I wont get an answer to that question.

Well, unless SC reverses her decision which is unlikely and its her site after all so I cant do anything. It was nice meeting you all. Craig, it was nice meeting you and Destinystar and everyone else who was able to maintain a steady calm head on their shoulders in these tough times. The crying baby gets the milk so Tez is back here. Tez you look like a little bit like George W.Bush by the way and an intellect to match. Thats not worse than your rhino/rase comment to me by the way.

Good bye all. I'll find another site for rational discussions where people are a little bit stronger. Most people here obviously have mental health issues and they get irritated very easily so its understandable if I'm not tolerated here. There were some nice people though who I'd have loved to have a beer with. Craig, Marypoppins before she started hounding me for Tez and others. Good bye and long live atheism, commonsense and rational thought.

April 13, 2009
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Wow Tez! I hope you read what SC posted my friend!

Maybe take a short "vacation" from the site? But I hope you come back SOON!

Hep

April 13, 2009
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Ofcourse Tez will be back. Tez's threat to leave the site worked. SC told me to leave the site finally. She had to choose between me and Tez and she likes seeing his name on the threads. Its comforting for her so the choice was obvious.

Well. Someone was talking about a "spoilt child with ADHD" and Tez qualifies for that 100% with this tantrum that has worked.

Anyway, we had some good debates here.

April 13, 2009
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Thank You SC!

I have avoided GG since 05 and have been amazed how Tez was so strong...at least most of the time.

Guest, you attacked and insulted me on the site that KathyG steered us too. Remember!

April 13, 2009
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Guest,

Although I do not follow any of these threads as a general rule (MUCH too draining in my humble opinion) I did want to comment on your comment above regarding KathyGy.

I was involved at the time Kathy when was asked to leave and as I recall the reason she was asked to leave is much the same as the reason the SC is asking you to leave now. Despite REPEATED efforts by NUMEROUS people asking her to consider the way she was posting to people and the negative effects is was having on some of the posters here...she absolutely refused to even ACKNOWLEDGE the possibility that her way was perhaps not the best way. No matter how many people told her the same thing...she was right and everyone else was wrong. She stubbornly (and immaturely imo) dug her heels in to the point that she was told to leave.

From my perspective, that is what I have seen here as well.

Having said that....I have no ill will towards you. I don't engage in these conversations over here so my opinion is strictly from an outsiders point of view.

Of course you will do what you do and think what you think ,but perhaps instead of digging your heels in like Kathy did...you might at least consider what many of the people here are telling you.

Take care,
Lolli

April 13, 2009
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Oh and Guest...I should point out that my opinion stated above was not necessarily limited to the current issue but just that over the years you seem resistant to others opinions and/or point of view when it comes to your posting style.

As always that's just my opinion and I really do wish you the best.

Lolli

April 13, 2009
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Lolli, supporting others on personal issues is a separate issue as compared to debating on religion and beliefs. I'm aware that the Support side requires more sensitivity and care. I'm not digging my heels or resisting anymore. SC told me to leave so I'll leave.

April 13, 2009
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((Tez))

I'll miss you! You are one of the FEW male contributors here, who offered a lot, on so many levels.

"It aint over til it's over" and hopefully it's over for one, so you can continue what you do here.

Be Well!

April 15, 2009
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Tez,

Best wishes!

April 15, 2009
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Ok fella, where are you? Did you really leave? I hope not.

April 15, 2009
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Tez,

Like anyone else here, all comments are appreciated by all on some level, even though it might, at the time, be maybe - a bitter pill to swallow!

But do (did) you realize what an utter ruckas your post set into motion here recently?

(Think about it!)

Did you even sense it?

Thus far, it has resulted in the automatic 'banning' of 3 very intelligent posters here.....who, to my mind and heart, always had something imnportant to say....whether or not I particurarily agreed with it 100%!

Was never intended upon with pure malice.

Not once, not ever.

EXTREME PASSION perhaps, but never, ever pure malice.

To me, your so-called 'farewell' was much too dramatic!

(Did you kind of plan it that way?)

(I am reminded of a scene with Robin Williams from the movie...."The Bird Cage (I think....) where the notion to leave was very, VERY dramatic with the Nathan Lane character....)

Toothbrush in hand....how very dramatic and 'Egyption....."

HAD YOU really had been TRULY sincere about all of this Tez, to my mind, you would have just politely and SILIENTLY just bowed yourself out unassumingly.....(Afterall - don't you suppose that that is what the Dali would have done....in retrospect.....IF you really walked your talk....) no fanfare. Without any drama or pointing fingers... without any post of this ever so dramatic 'Farewell" To All crap!!!!

Yet, you didn't do that - did you?

You just tried to stir up some shit in some sophisticated martyr-type crap/configuration and here all of us sit now.....3 clearly very insightful posters now who are now banned because of your little childish, manipulative, ploy.

PLEASE....give me a break already!!!!!

Guess I risk being banned myself for speaking my truth as well.

Might you even CONSIDER walking your talk???????

You don't fool me Tez, actually - never had.

Though - you DO have your good points on some level.....

Isn't is just sooooo safe of you to always hide from others' RISKING true and real comments and feelings and dilemas....to the point of you always quoting them word for word with your opposing quotes and giving us/them the benefit of the Dali's wisdom.....while - all the while you cowardly hide behind the quotes of said 'master'....quite afraid to offer up any real, personal risk of your own opinion?????

Sad.

Really sad that 3 posters now here have been banned because of the shit that you stirred up!!!!!!!!!!

Truth be told, on one hand, I think - on some level that you are/were well-intentioned on some base level....only my guess is that is you could stand for a little humbling...TRUE humbling yourself in reality....and NOT just in some esoteric sense/theory.

I just might be banned from saying this...speaking my mind.

Who knows?

It is the RISK I TAKE...and Tez, I ask you.....just what REAL RISKS have you yourself.....personally....ever taken????????

Always safe to stand behind and quote someone considered by others as being....'all-knowing and wise' but once the safety net of quoting others dies down....what's really left?

Afterall?

YOU!

Naked!!!!!

Naked and left to your own thoughts and personal feelings and genuine conclusions about life?

And just....Who IS TEZ, afterall????????????

When he is NOT standing behind a cloak of what some might deem 'conventional' wisdom by some seemingly sage of the day?????

So, SC - ban me too, if you will.

I just feel that I had to just speak my peace with regard to this general fiasco of this Lib threads of recent..........

Just call 'em as I see 'em is all............

Lesson for all here, to be sure.

Just have to swallow a little humble pie...........

Again....I reiterate....lesson OPPORTUNITY!

Hone into it...or just let 'er slide.

Our/Yours/Mine Decision.

For like someone really wise said to me once.....when you lose yourself.....you find yourself.

Ain't that just the carpet being just damned RIPPED from underneath your feet when you LEAST EXPECT IT.........and you go with it.....you follow it....because....afterall - what choice do you REALLY HAVE?????

Humility.

Grounding.

Process of elimination.

Finding out that the ego has its limitations....to be sure - and what you are left with is risk and vulnerabilty and the realization that none of us gets out of this world without pain!!!!!

None of us!!!!!!!!!!!!

So - we do what we can given the cards that we were dealt.

Nothing more?

Nothing less?

To somehow pretend something other for years and hide behind our own masks of intellect - ahhh yes, never under estimate the power of denial......you get me?

Ya feel me????????

Think about it..........

tBt

April 15, 2009
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TBT,

What an unkind post, in my opinion. I wonder how much of what you accuse Tez of can be said about you. Have you heard the phrase, "you spot it, go got it"?

If you read all of the posts and explanations from the SC, you'll see that the posters who were asked to go were asked to go because of what they did or did not do.

It's very silly and unfair, in my opinion, to blame Tez for what happened to Guest, Bevdee, and Tree.

All the best to you in recovery,

Mary

April 15, 2009
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that should have been, "you spot it, YOU got it"

April 16, 2009
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Mary,

Not unkind. Just a real honest observation on my part.

Sorry you confused that.

(Tables turned, I would at least expect the same in return.)

Warts and all with the best of intentions in the long run is all.

No more, no less.

All the best to you in your recovery as well.

April 16, 2009
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TBT - IMO, the SC seems level enough to make a decision about who stays or goes, based on her own opinions and experiences - without the influence of another.

It's pretty unfair of you to place blame on anyone, for what has happened - least of all Tez. That's my observation.

Hasn't there been enough stone throwing here, or venting for the sake of just wanting to be a part of the latest scuffle? How does this attack on Tez serve you personally? Focus on you.

April 16, 2009
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Mary- I liked your saying. I have one that comes to mind when I thought about the imposters and trolls that just got revealed in this site.

IF YOU FIND ONE THERE MUST BE A NEST OF THEM SOMEWHERE............

April 17, 2009
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TBT,

Well, let's see...just some real honest observation on my part now. I wonder how you would feel if someone really got in YOUR face, TBT, in the way that you did to Tez.

Let's take a few choice phrases from your posts:

"To me, your so-called 'farewell' was much too dramatic!

(Did you kind of plan it that way?)

(I am reminded of a scene with Robin Williams from the movie...."The Bird Cage (I think....) where the notion to leave was very, VERY dramatic with the Nathan Lane character....)

Toothbrush in hand....how very dramatic and 'Egyption....."

HAD YOU really had been TRULY sincere about all of this Tez, to my mind, you would have just politely and SILIENTLY just bowed yourself out unassumingly.....(Afterall - don't you suppose that that is what the Dali would have done....in retrospect.....IF you really walked your talk....) no fanfare. Without any drama or pointing fingers... without any post of this ever so dramatic 'Farewell" To All crap!!!!"

Drama! Yes, this is something you know a lot about. Does anyone else begin a new thread for every thought that pops into her head, and then proceed to go on and on about how amazing it is? how amazing she is?

I noticed that you never replied to your therapy thread on the support side. You posted that you didn't know if you could find someone "wise" enough for you.

Wow.

Everything you accused Tez of, in a very harsh and cruel way, could also be said of you. Perhaps this is why it made you so angry. You don't like these things about yourself.

Not only do you make a new thread every time something pops into your head, you treat it as if it's some great revelation, and throw a temper tantrum if you don't get enough attention.

Now, don't think of this as harsh, think of it as honest observation.

It makes no sense to ask for tolerance and acceptance of everyone and their warts and then proceed to very cruelly tear someone down. You slammed Tez in several posts, demanding that he "do" things for you - taunting him that he wasn't man enough or humble enough.

Tez had every right to speak up for himself in the way that he did. You don't know what went on between Tez and Guest and the SC. They all have a long history. You decided to blame him for everything???

How about you eat a big piece of HUMBLE PIE and apologize? Can you admit when YOU'RE wrong? when you've gone too far???

So, come on, TBT? time to walk the walk.

Mary

April 17, 2009
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Tez:

you said:

"Unless I see the Site Coordinator ban Guest_guest from this site completely, I will not be posting on the All About Counselling web site ever again."

From all that has happened, I think GG has been asked to leave.

SO, does this mean....you'll come back???????

sd

April 19, 2009
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Tez,

I do not know if or when you may ever access this thread again yet ...

I want to say because of the unrelentless, and from my opinion undeserved verbal attacks and what's with the "Quoting"

What was said is not worthy of being quoted. When people want to hurt or harm us it is because they are hurting too. "Misery loves company" is a cliche yet only true when I play their game by their rules.

Just be yourself with all your wisdom, patience, intelligence, and communication skills.

You have something that others want which is why they attack you.

Much Love and Respect Always,

littlespirit

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