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my wife the cheater
December 4, 2008
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Oh Mike!! It's nice to hear from you! Dont worry about me. Believe me, I'm not taking any shit. I don't consider it that, even when it's badly disguised in red. LOL. Oh SURE! all those one line paragraphs. OMG like that's not obvious. Too funny.

The reason I stand up for you is that I see you trying to reach out for help. Guys aren't always the best at finding the words to say what they want to say, so they kind of stumble in there try anyway and leave when they get made fun of or yelled at. I am impressed by what a gentleman you have been through all of this For sure more polite than I have been. Now you are trying to be a hero again but don't worry about me. And I like you Mike. I sense something fine in you.

That was very nice of your ex to include you in the holiday! Its good to spend time together as a family to heal so I'm glad your ex is nice enough to do this. Having love all around us helps in times of grief. Then it takes time for the effects of abuse to start wearing off. Even verbal. It's like you carry the world on your shoulders and you are bogged down with it, you know? Without that constant torture little by little your load will be lighter, you will stand straighter breathe easier, you can start to see yourself in a different way and work on yourself.

Mike, I think it is wonderful that you are starting to think you yourself are worth getting help. Maybe you should try the grief counseling. I did after my Grandfather died. I was so close to him, I was his favorite and he spoiled me rotten. When I grew up got my own car started college, I saw him less and less. It was so terrible of me, Grandmother had died and I just wouldn't take the time. I kept thinking I would get to it later, that there was always time, he would always be there. I was wrong. I had so much guilt, Mike. So spoiled and selfish I was. My Grandfather died alone in his bed, waiting for me to come wondering where I was, I just know it. Now, I don't know if this might help you, but after beating myself up for almost a year about not being a good granddaughter making myself miserable? I talked to him. That sounds crazy, doesn't it? I went to his grave and I told him how sorry I was. I told him everything in my heart. I know in my heart he heard me. Do you think you could do that? Pick a place where you think your son will be and go there? Then talk to your son and tell him how you are feeling? Hold your hands out and start talking. Just say his name. I think you would be surprised at what comes out. He will hear you. His heart will hear your heart. It will help to say the words to get the feelings out of you. Unbottle the feelings, Mike. I promise it's ok.

PS - yes of course I am a woman. You silly.

December 4, 2008
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To whoever this really is. accidentlyonpurpose. No. I dont live in Lompuke. Im not saying where I live cos theres too much parnoia about me at this site & I didnt think we could. this is getting ridiculous.

December 4, 2008
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Harle. Thanx for answering me. that was sweet. very cool. I still dont know why you do it. alls I can say is you are a very nice woman. I kno what you mean about obvious. dont worry about it. it doesnt matter.

I dont know if I can. you know talk to my son. even now. I didnt do such a good job of that when he was alive. He died in a car wreck. He was driving. drunk with his friends. hit another car head on & everyone died. Earlier that night we had been in a fight. well an argument. I think he got drunker cos of that. Its not ok to feel it. its not. My feelings hurt so much & I cant take it. Ive been keeping my feeligns to myself 7 yrs. longer really. I dont know how any more. My ex wife is ok. She doesnt like me most of the time but I dont blame her. The divorce was bad & Ive had trouble paying child support before. Shes good to the kids. I think she did it for our other kid Im glad she did she really pulled it off this year. Shes always been a good cook. too. We told stories about my son remembered him & it made us all feel better.

Harle. I think how hopeful you sound about life. & I think you must be very young. are you. Im sorry you lost your Grandfather & didnt go see him before he died. I love my dad. I know I will feel terrible when he is gone. You must look pretty good to be a front person for a nice hotel. Thanx for writing. Take care.

December 4, 2008
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yup, here I go again, putting in my two cents worth as I take the control bit out of my mouth....

LOSERmike/Harlequin...if you are not one in the same person, trying to get under Frees skin by trying some screwed up scheme to "HOPEFULLY" make her Jealous ( Wont happen!! )then do us all a favor and take your flirtatious garbage somewhere else. This is NOT a hook-up site. All the pretty little 'let me help' lines, peppered with some really lame flirting is way off base here. i.e.:
'wow, you seem like a great person'...
'I'll argue some times, and usually win, but I'm not really a fighter, more of a lover. :)... 'Harlequin. Harle. nice to hear from you. thanx for taking the time. You sound like a busy woman. You know. I think you are a woman. are you.'... 'Harle. you dont have to take all this shit on my behalf. I dont know why you are doing it'...'You must look pretty good to be a front person for a nice hotel'...PAH-LEEZ-AH!

IF you are not one and the same person, this is not findadatebydeduction.com! TSK,TSK!

And yes, I know, its just my 2 cents worth of PERSONAL OPINION about how this is coming across...GAD, I feel so bad for Free IF this IS her ex, and I PERSONALLY believe it is! WAY too many coinkydinks!

December 5, 2008
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Kroika!!!

Hey you. Boy, this is a mess! Reminds me why I stopped coming on her so often! I still drop in to read everynow and then, but rarely post.

It's good to hear from you. I miss you guys!

Where's Bevdee, Michy and Sleepless??

December 5, 2008
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my two cents:

you sure you dont live in LOMPOC because as long as ive known you you have been calling it lompuke.. or was that a simple spelling mistake "L and end in a C and have ompo in the middle??" HOW COULD YOU GET THAT WRONG? alot of people around here call it that. if you were from out of town you would have pronounced it LOMPOCK. even though the pronunciation of the word sounds more like LOMPOKE. not LOM (throw up). what about pokey town. thats what we call it too.

micheal come on.would you also deny that your son has a baby boy? would you like me to tell you his name?

December 5, 2008
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or are you seriously going to deny him? like you did before your son died?

December 5, 2008
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whats wrong with red? is it because its the color for rage?

or do you not like pretty colors?

lol

do you like green better? its envy.

i dont know what the emotion for blue is....

or purple.

how about all the colors? does that make you happy? any kid that has a myspace profile can change the color of the font. its very simple HTML code. you learn it in a high school computer class these days. :>

December 5, 2008
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"I'm not taking any shit. I don't consider it that, even when it's badly disguised in red."

since it is brown now is it shit??

December 5, 2008
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everyone-
all this stuff needs to stop. im that cutting creditcard stealing stepdaughter of yours micheal. i heard about this place from a friend. not my mom.

it really hurts that you would openly tell people that i cut and steal. this is something i got over in life. something that was confided in you as my father figure. something private that was not to be openly discussed with people. i got help for the cutting. because of my mom. and my boyfriend. i have come to terms with it and i am ashamed that i did it. but not ashamed it happened. i learned a lot from it. i don't really know why i turned to that and not drugs. but i did. i got help and it hasn't happened for years. i don't feel like i should have to justify it. the credit card- i was like twelve. why would you even bring that up?
all this nonsense really hurts. you wanna know when i realized i could never ever talk to you again? when you we were screaming at each other in the front yard- like the day you moved out. and you said "come over here so i can slap the shit out of you." you were getting things out of the garage, the day you moved out. you were saying horrible things about my mother and i stood up for her. i am not ashamed of it. i dig my heels in deep when i believe in something. real freakin deep. i still believe that what i did was right. i had to call 911 that day because your son was trying to fight my boyfriend. my boyfriend did the right thing and went inside and didn't come out again.

you told me that i better take the in memory sticker off of my car of your son, my stepbrother, the kid i grew up with off my car. you had someone come peel off the "in memory" of your son of my moms car.
you never got mine. i was at my bfs house. i came home and noticed what had happened and called and made a police report.
the next day you told the cops that i must have gotten a new one- that's how i new you had something to do with it. mine was never torn off.
as for loosening my lugs nuts- you could have killed me. or is that what you were trying to do?

i like adopted you as my dad. you were there for ten years of my life, more than half. then you storm out of it and call me a whore, slut, cutter, liar, cheater, stealer. WTF. you are a great father! i looked up to you, i did things for you, i asked you and told you very confidential things. i have realized you were never that person i thought you were. i don't need a father, never did.
its funny, close your eyes, and think of your parents. do you see your mom and dad or your mom and stepdad? or whoever? a couple?
when i see my parents, i see my mom. just my mommy. she is the only person who has stuck with me through everything. everything. everything that has ever happened and everything that will happen. good and the bad. shes my hero.
and when i see people talking bad about her, i get furious. because she is not the person you are making her out to be. she is a beautiful, trustworthy, wonderful woman. someone i hope i can be. the mother i want to be to my kids.
my psycho screaming baby brother- hes a twelve year old boy with ADHD up the butt. we dont medicate him because there are no long term studies of that medication in the long run. so we are making due. many of his anger problems were from you. now that you are gone, i wish you could see how hes doing. better in school, no temper tantrums, just an awesome energetic teen.
but seeing you at his fathers house really threw him off. you told his dad (also my dad, but heck blah) horrible things about his older sister and he was so angry at you. he loves her too. our little family is so strong knit you dont even know. but to have my baby brother come crying and so upset to me really hit a nerve.
i protect them. im the oldest so thats my job. i protected them from their dad, now you. its really hard, but i will not budge. i am strong.
my lil sister- one of the strongest young women i know. smart, awesome at her game. independent. she never really liked you that much... good for her.

i confided in a friend, she told her mom and it got out. you know what i am talking about. i talked to you about it and we cleared it up. i sat on the couch crying so hard. i felt so bad for what was said. i got completely contorted. lost in translation.
then you came over and said "you will always be the daughter i never had" and you kissed me on the forehead.
but i still felt awful. then you bring it up later saying horrible things about me. i know why, it was to try and hurt my mom. maybe to hurt me.
i went through hell and back with my dad eight years ago, and im having to have to go through it with you. because you are just like him. carbon copy.
you know i almost had to testify against him at his stalking trial for stalking my mom? he pleaded out. so now he tells me he shouldnt have. the reason he pleaded out is because a journal had been found and i stated in it that i would kill myself if my dad went to jail. so he pleaded out. he was caught. with or without my testimony. years of counseling taught me that. now, its my fault he cant get a job. my fault he pleaded out. my fault his life is horrible. everything is all my fault. lol. he said he never should have pleaded out. i say whatever. and dont talk to him. because he doesn't deserve to have me in his life if he is going to hurt me and beat me down emotionally.

i finished high school. in the top 15 percent of my graduating class. i bought a car. i have a job. i will succeed. i am strong. i am going to continue on through life like you never happened. im going to finish school. im going to graduate with my degree. then im going to become a RN through the program at the college. and im going to do it without you. without any of this bull shit drama.

have a great life.

December 5, 2008
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p.s
you came in this family as an outsider, and you will leave as one.

peace out.

December 5, 2008
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Wow....so much for anonymity!

It appears as though the whole fang, dang town knows about this site.

Good job Free, Mike, et.al

December 5, 2008
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I have never seen anything like this on this site. Not to this extreme.

I find it very upsetting.

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December 5, 2008
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umm. this is what stalkers do. its all they think about its all they do. they surround themselves in it. genuine stalking case we got up in here. i saw it with my biological father and now with this freakazoid. you can thank Micheal for the whole everyone is supposed to be anonymous because he is telling everyone around town to come here and see how great he is and blah blah (puke). he is doing everything he can possibly do to invade her space and take it away from her... he would do the same to me if he had a way too. he posted things on myspace about me, so i deleted him as a friend and anyone else affiliated with him. and got threw with that nonsense. he puts on a big ole show for everyone, but you never see whole he truly is on the inside until the very end. he put on quite a show and he really had me goin. he had everyone going. if he woulda just caved and gotten some AA counseling or something, i don't think my mom would have left. with her, if she says something like that she means it.

"hold your head high gorgeous, there are many who would kill to see you fall"

December 5, 2008
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This seems like a lot of attention-seeking craziness to me. So, all of these Michael Bashers from Lompoc supposedly found out about this site from everyone in town, BUT free, right? Quite a coincidence.

Serenity Now.

December 5, 2008
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this is so "not right"......too many
people coming out of the woodwork, and bashing etc.

Remember this site is for support and too many of you all know eachother and it doesn't make this site easier to give "support".

I think all this silliness should stop.

December 5, 2008
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actually, i don't talk to "free"
i heard about it from a friend of a friend.
so... i checked it out.
why is he here? not for support. to get at her. duh. answer why he is here. why since he found out "free" is on here he did not leave and find support somewhere else? is this the most bestest sooper site in the world for support? the only counseling site? come on.

December 5, 2008
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Where the hell is the site-coordinator? I'd ban them all. this is nuts. Now I REALLY know why I stopped coming here.

FYI, a long time ago, Free came to this site during one of my breaks. when I came back, she was convinced I was her first ex-husband, who was also supposedly a stalker, and who she said often used the name "free2...." fill in the blank.

I had to tell her my whole life story before she would believe I wasn't some stalher ex, even after some of the other old times vouched for me.

I'm not saying LM is not her husband. And I'm not saying Free is a paranoid freak either. All I'm saying is, this is not our buisiness and it's taking over our site.

LM, whoever he is or isn't, has everyright to be here. This is an open forum for support. I offered him mine.

Free can stay or go. Her space has been invaded. I'd choose to go, but hey, I'm not Free.

Either way, these are both adults making choices. And having consequenses because of those choices.

The bad part is now WE ALL have to deal witht the fall out by the negativity infecting this site.

This site is not safe.

Where the HELL is the SC???

December 5, 2008
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Michael. Dude.

What are you doing? Directing all his friends here? We love ya Michael. But we love her too. Alot of us had her, ya know? She was the only teacher who actually cared about us.

She's not sayin nuttin about you that we heard. Take it easy man. chill.

this site it pretty cool though.

December 5, 2008
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Oh great, another troll.

SC must have taken a hiatus - but this definitely needs to stop.

December 5, 2008
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troll? We're trolls?

December 5, 2008
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WOW

December 5, 2008
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Why you say we're trolls? That's so messed! Why you say that?

December 5, 2008
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Hi Everyone,

Please let this thread die by no longer posting to it. No more posts please.

I ask that those who know someone personally on this site to move on. This site is for people who don't know each other, to get personal insights.

Please, those who know someone, leave here & bash each other in email if you feel it benefits you.

Thanks, SC

December 8, 2008
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Site Coordinator.

I hope all here on this site realize that you have largely fund this site over many years. You have put in all the work for over 10 years to maintain and update this web site. In appreciation for this selfless gift of love, you have to repeatedly deal with and try to clean up this kind of mess.

I must admit that I am far less tolerant than you. I would have deleted from the database any thread that contained any continuing reference to this unadulterated 'crap'.

Thank you for your efforts and your continuing patience and tolerance over the years, despite the all to frequent eruption of highly distasteful 'flame wars'.

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