Avatar
Please consider registering
guest
sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_TopicIcon
Etcetera
April 8, 2009
3:16 pm
Avatar
bevdee
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 259
Member Since:
September 30, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

MsG, I'm sorry you feel insulted. I've been coming here for smoke breaks. A 2 1/2 video takes a lot more thought than what goes on in the conflict threads.

I'll get back to you when I can.

(((MsG)))

April 8, 2009
10:46 pm
Avatar
Guest
Guests

MsGuided
8-Apr-09

"bevdee or anyone else who is open to finding real change, and positive growth for our lives on earth please watch this video.

It is from the Zietgeist Movement."

Thanks MsG. I downloaded that movie, 'Zeitgeist' a few months ago. It is very good, though a little depressing at times. Hope springs eternal from the human spirit. I think that sooner or later the internet, if not eventually censored and controlled by the ultimate Global big brother, will inform the world's masses. The question is how will the masses react? With either violence or Gandhi style passive resistance or both?

April 9, 2009
7:34 pm
Avatar
MsGuided
Golden Horseshoe.ca
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 104
Member Since:
September 24, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Hi Tez!

There is a worldwide movement called the Venus project wich is spawned by the Zietgeist Movies.

That Orientation video has some real answers to the worlds ills, but some of it involves getting rid of currency altogether.

The movement is based on Science and peaceful change.

The way the world is going IS depressing! Meds won't help, only real change.

I find some of the answers very uplifting and inspiring ( from another video I watched previously. An interview with Jacque Fresco)

Here's an old Larry King interview with Fresco from 1974!! The guys a genius!

My bad! I watched half of the orientation video, then I got busy, had to adhere to lifes rythmns. I'm hoping some open discussion will ensue. If not, I just want to get the message out.

There IS a better way!

Be Well!

April 9, 2009
8:04 pm
Avatar
MsGuided
Golden Horseshoe.ca
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 104
Member Since:
September 24, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

What the heck am I saying?

Jacques started the Venus project before Zeitgiest.

Here's the intro mainpage.

http://www.thevenusproject.com.....is_tvp.htm

April 9, 2009
9:18 pm
Avatar
Guest
Guests

MsGuided

On the 9-Apr-09 you wrote:

"Hi Tez!

There is a worldwide movement called the Venus project wich is spawned by the Zietgeist Movies.

... ...the movement is based on Science and peaceful change."

Yes, I've explored the Venus site soon after viewing the Z movie.

And you followed up with:

"The way the world is going IS depressing! Meds won't help, only real change."

Yes, I think that everyone on this planet apart from a few numb-skulls would agree with you too. But the 'how, when, where and why' of bringing about that real change is open to a lot of heated debate and dissention.

"I find some of the answers very uplifting and inspiring ( from another video I watched previously. An interview with Jacque Fresco)

Here's an old Larry King interview with Fresco from 1974!! The guys a genius!

"

Thanks for that. I watched the above video to which your URL pointed. It sounds good. In principle, I have for a long time believed that cooperation rather than competition is where the future of any individual, company, or country lies. Again, it is very easy for me to write that but another thing altogether to bring it about.

About 10 years ago, I realized that a complete paradigm shift in thinking is required in each and every human being on this planet if we are to survive as a species. Otherwise we will find ourselves extinct on this planet in the not too distant future. Again, I think that most people intuit this at least in the depths of their psyche. Again I say that it is easy for me to write this and quite another for me to know what paradigm to which I am referring and how to bring that massive change about.

In the ultimate, the responsibility for how we think, feel and what we believe lies with us.

What works better for us as individual human beings, caring only about ourselves, only about our extended families, only about our own nation or the only about the world as a whole or about the whole universe?

This is a fundamental question. All too many would argue that caring only for ourselves, me first, second and third as they mostly do in the animal kingdom is in the best interests of the individual. This self-centered approach to life is the underpinnings of our competition based world. Globalization purports to hold 'answers' for eliminating global competition at a governmental level that in its most heated state involves war over resources. However as you well know Globalization is really about collecting power into the hands of the few who think that they know better than us all what is best for us and especially what's best for their own very self-centered power base.

Thus the solution, for me, seems to be one of other-centering myself first before I try to change the world. If the mind is as powerful as I believe that it is, then overcoming obstacles to the use of that power would seem to me to be essential for me. What are these obstacles? I think that the answer all boils down to one major obstacle and that is the personal ego!

I should at this juncture define what I mean by the personal ego. For me this means that boundary wall that I create in my mind that divides me and mine, my ego domain, from all other minds and their individual ego domains. For me it is this ego-self that blocks my access to the tremendous power of the collective mind.

My interest in Buddhism stems from my respect for the Buddha's insights into just how to eliminate this obstructing personal ego from the mind, therein unleashing its full potential. One has to be very careful not to judge the Buddha -Guatama, that is - by the sects and cults that have obscured his message by embedding it within their old traditional religious beliefs and practices, cultural morays etc.

When the vast majority of human beings start to turn within for real answers instead of wanting to impose their externally derived and might enforced 'solutions' on others as the US did in Iraq, no matter how well intentioned, only then can we hope to see real change from the world trends that are now being painfully manifested for all to see. That's my take. From my perspective, it starts with me, and I certainly am trying my best within the framework of my vast limitations imposed by my own personal ego.

Forum Timezone: UTC -8
Most Users Ever Online: 247
Currently Online:
25
Guest(s)
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
onedaythiswillpass: 1134
zarathustra: 562
StronginHim77: 453
free: 433
2013ways: 431
curious64: 408
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 49
Members: 110929
Moderators: 5
Admins: 3
Forum Stats:
Groups: 8
Forums: 74
Topics: 38539
Posts: 714214
Newest Members:
stanley, LarteyWellnessGroup, dr ado spell caster, Leslie Ann Satin, overmyhead201, delight1080
Moderators: arochaIB: 1, devadmin: 9, Tincho: 0, Donn Gruta: 0, Germain Palacios: 0
Administrators: admin: 21, ShiningLight: 572, emily430: 29

Copyright © 2019 MH Sub I, LLC. All rights reserved. Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Cookie Policy | Health Disclaimer