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was FIRED today from job.........(camer)
July 20, 2007
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Hi everyone, so my boss says "I need to tt you" and i said fine...He tells me things are not working out. For one, I had my
dog walking job, and I asked him if I could
take an extra 1/2 hour during lunch to walk a dog, at first he said no, then he said ok...then on Wed I had to go to the dentist at lunch time (pre arrange appt & was switched to work Wed so she can work thurs)...so my boss chews me out cuz I was gone 1 1/2 hours, and he may have "missed a million dollar deal phone call"...I work for an auction company. Then he tells me I wrote the wrong name down on a message, and he felt foolish calling the guy by the wrong name....so there are 3 strikes against me. Its a 2 person office, me another lady & my boss. I work Thur Fri & Mon & she works Tues & Wed. My boss said he felt I wasn't into the job, and the hours working 8-4 are so important, etc. But i told him my dentist appt was *pre made* and MY coworker asked me to switch days. With the dog walking deal, my boss just should have said no, only 1/2 lunch (also the dog walking deal only went on for 5 days, wasn't permanent). Then cuz i "accidentally" write down the wrong name, he feels I should be let go & I don't take my job seriously.

I couldn't handle this, here Friday at noon, telling me "no job, you are done".....i tried to hold back and i could
feel tears welling in my eyes, and I shed some (arrrg I feel like a fool, a baby) I wasn't balling, just a few tears, he knew I was upset. I told him that I don't have a job now, and think of how I feel. So I asked him "please" give me another chance and I will make changes. No, nope, wouldn't do it, he let me go.

I just filed for unemployment, I feel hurt, I told him I like my job, and we are human with making mistakes.

I feel more mad at myself for crying in front of him, (maybe a relash of another time i was fired, many, many years ago, and did the same thing, cry).

I don't know if I handled this well, I do know I can still walk dogs, but can't live off the money for it, its not frequent enough.

I just can't beleive that my boss could be so cold, and up & out "let me go".....Now who is going to answer his phones on Mon & thurs & fri??? He wouldn't accept anything I said.

I just feel bad, about crying, about losing this job I loved, and having him not want to even give me another chance.

I don't know, I guess I just needed to vent and get some feedback.

Worst part, is my mom & sister are visiting for the weekend, and I sure as hell don't want to tell them the bad news. Luckily I live with my bf & we can survive for a few weeks, till I start working again.

Thanks for listening.

Camer

July 20, 2007
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maybe he has someone else to do the job (maybe the other lady?) and just wanted to find excuses to let you go?

either way, when things like this happen, I try to believe that every cloud has a silver lining...and perhaps there is a better position waiting for you.

can you collect unemployment? maybe that will help you get by?

July 20, 2007
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thanks Rising...maybe he has his daughter ready to take my job, as she has "filled" in on quite a few occasions.

I will collect unemployment. Cuz there was no legitimate reason he had to fire me.

I wasn't late every day, or missed worked or called in sick alot. I never stole or damaged his place.

The 3 things he can say is that I took 1 1/2 lunch (to go to the dentist) no, i never told him i was going to be taking that long of a lunch, but he was on the road, so I just went about my business.

2nd, he can make a big deal about the "dog walking" which HE ALLOWED ME TO DO..... he could have said no, and the dog walking thing only lasted a week.

3rd is, A client of his called and I guess I wrote down the "wrong name" and he badgered me for it, well, yes, i may have wrote the wrong name, my fault, but mistakes do happen.

That is all he has, that's it, I think cuz the other lady I work with
has been there for years, then they add "me" to the picture, and the other lady is a control freak, and we had a hard time getting along, without her being too bossy or pushy.

It just doesn't add up. And, yes, I will fight to hell and highwaters for unemployment, which i think I fully deserve.

I just feel bad, cuz my boss saw me at my weak point (crying), geeeeesssshhh, I wish i could have stayed stong, and I kept saying to myself, as tears were welling up to
get "mad" not "sad"....but I oculdn't stop the tears.

And yes, something good will come out of this.

July 20, 2007
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Camer camer,

I just noticed your post after writing you from my post camer are you serious he let you go like that???I can't believe he would let you go and not give you another chance.I am soooooooooooo sorry camer i'm really sorry.But don't feel ashamed for crying i have done that when we had to leave the shelter with my own apartment in it to my supervisor so don't beat yourself up.I will pray for you that you find another job and you will get one my friend.What about the toll job don't you still have that one besides the dog job?Trust me hes gonna get his believe me it happens all the time hes gonna get his.It will be alright my friend you will find another one i'm just glad that you will have some money coming in till you find another job and plus the unemployment check too will come in handy.I'm sorry camer but it will get better i know you will find something.Don't worry pray about it to god he is there for you.

Talk to you soon my friend.

July 20, 2007
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((thanks Brownie)) and I too just posted on the other thread about this.

Wow, tears are welling up in my eyes now. I feel sad. I do have money to help me for a bit, and I know I will get unemployment, cuz he had NO right to fire me, no right at all.

And yes, Mr. Auction will get his some day, I just feel bad for crying in front of him, i felt weak, and helpless, when now I think of it, he was an asshole for what he did. He didn't even give me a weeks notice or anything, just told me to leave (in a nice way).

Thru all these tears, and sadness I will get thru this. My unemployment is already set up and I will fight for my rights on it. And I did quit the tolls ***to work for the Auction company**** He told me he would give me extra hours and I could quit the tolls. Good thing is I do have 2 huge
dog walking assignments in August that will bring in $100's of dollars.

No pity party for me, I will stand tall and make something good happen from this.

(((thanks for being the sweet caring friend you are, Brownie))))

July 20, 2007
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((((Camer))))

Sounds like you are doing good things to take care of yourself inspite of being fired. Hopefully you can stay in the moment and enjoy your mom and sisters visit.

July 20, 2007
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Dear Camer,

I just wanted to say how sorry I am that you are going through this. Losing one's job is an extremely stressful event.

I understand that you are disappointed that you allowed your feelings to show in front of your boss. You felt uncomfortable exposing your vulnerabilities - especially since he treated you with such callousness and such coldness.

I try to always look on the bright side in situations like this (which I know is hard to do immediately after something like this happens).

But, maybe, now, you can find a job that you truly enjoy. A job where you feel compatible with your colleagues and where your supervisor sees you as a valued worker worthy of respect.

It did not seem as if you were too happy at this job. You certainly did not seem to get along with your co-worker. Your boss is coming across as being quite unreasonable. He fired you for such minor offenses. I agree with a previous respondent who said he probably had someone else lined up for the job and was just looking for any excuse to let you go.

You need a job with job security. So after the initial shock wears off, start putting your energy into finding a more substantial job. You come across as a very intelligent woman. Find a job that matches your abilities.

Well, mostly I wanted to say that I was sorry that you have to go through this.

I wish you well, and hopefully, things will begin to look better for you.

Sad

July 20, 2007
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Camer i don't mean to sound like this but you quit the toll job oh my i wish you would have told me about it then because i would have told you to not quit it but then i know you didn't know that this was gonna happen.Is it possible if you can get with the toll people again??And also fight for it take him to court i was just thinking about that take him to court camer because what he did was not right and like you said he does not have no legitimate reason so i feel that you have a case with that.Don't back down fight it he was DEAD wrong for letting you go and he didn't even give you a weeks notice.And don't worry my friend its gonna be alright it will be.

July 20, 2007
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((mj & sad)) thanks so much for your kind words.

Funny thing is, I did like my job alot, it was a small office, and I keep thinking that my other co worker is a control freak, she works around the clock and dedicates her life to the job. Maybe I wasn't like her, and just *did* my job without going overboard. I liked that it was close to home, which was great. But what can I say, I can't take my job back, and yes, maybe travel more to my next job. But I tried my hardest to make things work at the job, and my boss was just being "weird" for whatever reason, and yes, he will get his someday.

Thanks for the uplifting thoughts.

July 20, 2007
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I cant believe he fired you for those three reasons. It sounds as if he is a perfectionist and it sounds as if your co-worker is a perfectionist. It is awfully difficult to please these type of people, no matter how hard you try. It is always going to be something that would have come up. IT is these type of people that the more you try, the more mistakes that will happen even if you do not plan or mean them to be that way. ANd you cannot help it if you cry. There is no control sometimes. You did not know you would be fired, you were not prepared. This is a blessing in disguise. truly it is. Now you will be able to find a job that is close (hopefully), and work with people that are not watching you so closely, trust you to do the job, and you feel confident and not walking on eggshells like this. Your supervisor isn't a good communicator anyway. IF he did not want you to walk the dogs, all he had to do was say no. And you would have made other arrangements ahead of time. Beside your coworker, being perfect, you won't have to measure up next time, it will come out naturally and easily and no competition when you are working as a team and feel part of a team. Brown nosers and overbearing, picky bosses don't mix well. The next one could be way better. And more money. Maybe you do not have to walk dogs on your lunchbreak anymore. Don't get mad at me for saying so but a lot of places don't want you to have second job unless it is outside the work hours. Im not sure working during lunch hours would be acceptable but since this was just a one time thing, the supervisor did not need to fire you for it. Keep your spirits up, a better one is around the corner.

July 20, 2007
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thanks Taj...and the only reason, I asked my boss about walking dogs, was cuz it was 7 minutes away from my company, and its a "tiny" office of 3 people, and i figured he would
be "flexible"....and he should have said NO....and I told him this. I even told him i would "never" take on a dog walking job during my regular work day, that still wasn't good enough for him.

I truely hope it is a blessing, I did like the job alot, cuz for one i didn't have to "work" **much** with my other coworker.. but when i did, it was liike walking on eggshells..... desk office, and I pretty much had the whole place to myself, which was nice, and it was close to home. I felt comfy there. Maybe too comfy.

My boss even knows my co worker is a control freak, and even when we spoke a month ago about her, he said that she may "never" get along with another person in the office.

My spirits are up, thanks Taj!!!

July 20, 2007
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thanks Taj...and the only reason, I asked my boss about walking dogs, was cuz it was 7 minutes away from my company, and its a "tiny" office of 3 people, and i figured he would
be "flexible"....and he should have said NO....and I told him this. I even told him i would "never" take on a dog walking job during my regular work day, that still wasn't good enough for him.

I truely hope it is a blessing, I did like the job alot, cuz for one i didn't have to "work" **much** with my other coworker.. but when i did, it was liike walking on eggshells..... desk office, and I pretty much had the whole place to myself, which was nice, and it was close to home. I felt comfy there. Maybe too comfy.

My boss even knows my co worker is a control freak, and even when we spoke a month ago about her, he said that she may "never" get along with another person in the office.

My spirits are up, thanks Taj!!!

July 20, 2007
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You are welcome. I am a hard worker myself. I have been at the same agency since I was 25. I have a brand new job and it also is more money. It is totally different atmosphere than the other job. The other job was offered to me on a plate. I did not have to apply for it, it was just handed to me. I took the lazy way out of it. I took that job and I was only there for less than 3 months. It was the most stressful and the most awful job I have had in my career. I could go on and on about it. IT did not help my self esteem at all to be at that one . I already started looking around a month after I started. Well I applied for a job and went through the whole process, applying which is hard work, going on the interview and waiting. I had a lot of competetion for that job too. But they picked me even though I felt I did not have the best interview or at least I thought so. I love my job now and I have my own office, it is much more relaxing atmosphere, my team is wonderful, all team players and my supervisor totally involves me and treats me very well. My confidence went way up and I feel much better. Not to mention I get more money. So you see what seems like a good one, sometimes you get something much better. But like anything in life it is a loss. Losing a job is a loss just the same. So you just have to go through the process of being angry, and disappointed and then anxious because you do not have a job. Then comes relief. I think you should be proud of yourself right now for facing what is very difficult. It will get better, it will pass.

July 20, 2007
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(((Camer))) Its bad to be let go and worse with no notice. Sorry. I know it hurts and shocks... But youre handling it like a strong clear minded person. You need to give yourself a pat on the back. Give yourself some grieve days. Not the weekend if youre not gonna tell... And then hold yourself up and go for another job. Maybe there is one less stiffling and obsessive waiting for you? It seems your x-boss is too over-serious and not so open as you´d like a boss to be. But now you know 99% of the stuck up bosses there are, he he. You have a good soul, body and heart, right? Nothing to lament!!

July 20, 2007
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(((Camer)))

There is a better job out there for you. There were other things going on outside of you for him to fire you like that. It doesn't make sense otherwise, don't take it personally. If he is that stupid to fire someone like that then it wasn't a good working environment anyway.

I totally understand about the crying thing. I have done it myself a number of times... don't have any advice- just that you are not alone with this. I am embarrassed when it happens too.

You can make a good bit of money petsitting and dog walking. Here are a few websites with more resources...

http://www.petsitters.org/

http://www.petsit.com/

http://www.pet-sitters.biz/

http://www.petsits.com/

There are loads more if you google "pet sitter"

When I was in college I worked for a lady who started her own petsitting service. At first it was just her, then she hired me and one other person because there was such a demand for petsitters in the area. She made more as a petsitter than she did as a police officer and she had much better working conditions and work schedule.

Hugs,
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July 20, 2007
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((taj)) thanks so much, and yes, my job may have been good, but yes, i bet there is a better one out there.

And I for one, am going to fight the battle of unemployment, and take this guy to court if needed so i get "full" pay back. Still he had no legit. reason to fire me.

Your kind words truely inspire me Taj, thanks again!!

((sininho))yes, I know I can land a good job, i have lotsa experience and get along well with others...heck, my Auction boss hired me within a day!! so I will get something good. ((thanks for taking the time to respond to this thread)))

and ((chelonia)) yes, i will check those threads, its weird cuz the dog walking business did boom for me this year, just not "booming" enough to live off of, but extra $$$, thanks so much!!

July 20, 2007
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Camer, you are 100% correct!

"And I for one, am going to fight the battle of unemployment, and take this guy to court if needed so i get "full" pay back. Still he had no legit. reason to fire me."

Good for you. Get what's coming to you. I hope he just rolls over and realizes that you deserve full benefits. Did he give you unpaid vacay time, etc.? Two weeks' severance? Crummy to have to pursue them. Do you have a feeling that he'll balk? It would be so much better (obviously) if you could get your bennies and move on, as soon as possible.

Hey, I ALWAYS cry when I'm fired or laid off. You should have seen me when I lost my wonderful job of 10 years at 9/11/01. Waterworks! It hurts, that's why. Being human is not a crime. Shake the dust of that place and ease on down the road!

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July 20, 2007
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(((awww Honolulu))) you are too funny!!! and yes, I will get whats coming to me....i just have to stop dwelling on "why" he did this to me...he even said I could use him for a "refrence"...well....then why the heck did he fire me???? I keep dwelling on why, why did he do it??

And yes, crying is human, I just wish that when he told me "just end the day" (fired) that I stood strong, fought for my rights and walked away in pride, knowing that something will happen now with State & unemployment...But geeeesssshhh, i need to stop the would have could haves and whys...and just move on!!!

thanks Hono for your support!!!

(((camer)))

July 20, 2007
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Well, dearie, this is like losing a man. "Why did he leave me? WHAT did I do wrong".

Sometimes we have to let it go,

because:

We'll never know what they don't want us to know. (I think this is a real pearl of wisdom.)

This truly sounds like "fake right and go left" to me. He trumped some reasons up for firing you and will NOT disclose the real reason. Hey! I'd rather be fired/laid off for YOUR alleged reasons than lots of others!

Plus, if there is an ulterior motive, which there likely is, he'll feel guilty about what he did and shower our Camer with lovely benefits. I'll be keeping an eye out to see what unfolds!

H-gal

July 20, 2007
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(((SweetCamer))) I know a lot about that. I've been fired & laid off from so many places. Sometimes, the boss simply did not like me and I was even excluded from training or promotion or any benefits...etc. So, I know how much it hurts. However, in retrospect, I learned something very important and that is....if you're a good person doing your job well, mistakes can happen with the best employee, and your boss is rutheless for doing that...He is NOT worth the trouble. He is like a bad bf who does not know how to appreciate you or who takes you for granted. Consider yourself lucky for not working for him anymore.

Well, it summertime and it's time to relax, have fun, sit by the swimming pool and you can collect $$$ from unemployment.:) Smiley!!!

July 20, 2007
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Hey, Camer: Well that just sucks. How long were you working there?

Seems the boss should have given you a warning, or an unsatisfactory/ needs improvement evaluation and followed a process before firing you so abruptly.

I have heard that Fridays are the days when that usually happens, probably so the boss doesn't have to face you again. Also seems like there should have been some severance pay too.

I've stayed at jobs though when I was really unhappy and looking back I think its best to get out right away instead of hanging around for more misery. Maybe its good you're just getting out of the situation now instead of continuing to work there and always being nervous and scared that he was going to fire you anyhow.

The dentist part seems very unreasonable on his part and you could probably fight it, but why bring that on? Like the others said maybe he had other reasons and just wanted the position vacant, nothing personal.

Another way to look at it- at least he fired you so you could get unemployment. If he just made you miserable and you quit you wouldn't be able to collect.

Try to cheer up, and try to enjoy the weekend.

SD

July 20, 2007
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Hi Camer

No it doesn't sound right at all that he fired you for just those things. You've got my respect for starting to think about what you can do, so quick: unemployment, dog walking, making do with your boyfriend until you get a job. Chelonia may be on to something. A friend of mine did start her own petsitting company & was going all the time. What about dogwalking for veterinarians that board animals?

You wrote: "Worst part, is my mom & sister are visiting for the weekend, and I sure as hell don't want to tell them the bad news."

You sure don't owe them telling them what happened immediately. You can tell them when you want to.

You take care,

Jas

July 20, 2007
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((( camer))))

that's awful Camer! I hate to hear when good people get fired or laid off. And it is a VERY stressfull thing - especially with no notice.

When you start to feel down about it..just remind yourself that YOU Did NOTHING WRONG! You are SO right! If your Boss didn't want you to walk the dogs - he shouldn't have 'ok'd it! You did ask! I'll bet you are right and that he has other reasons for letting you go.. he most likely has somebody else in mind for the job..like you suspect...his daughter or the other lady...or his mistress 😉 or whomever.

And It's okay that you cried...even though you wanted and wished you could just be strong and act like it didn't bother you. I think it's good that you cried. It made it harder for him...men don't like to see you cry...and..even though he was ruthless..and still said no...after you asked to give you a chance...I hope he will feel a bit guilty over the weekend...while you are enjoying your families company.

I'd like to believe that things happen for a reason..and that you will find a better job..more suited for you... with someone who appreciates you!
Chin up!
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July 21, 2007
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((Honolulu, Ras, Sdesigns, Jasmin & thedogsmom))) thanks everyone!!!

You are the best!

And after getting a good sleep, and yes, I told my mom and sis last nite & they too said the boss was an ass.

Ok, I wasn't at the job too long, BUT
heres how it went....he hired me one day after my interview...I start the job, and "liked" my ocworker, she was nice, at first, then as time went on being in a 2 person office (me and her) there would be hours going by that nothing would be said or any talking....then I start generating conversation, and still not much talking then a few months go by....and I feel like "I" am getting in her way cuz she doesn't even have casual conversations with me. Ifelt uncomfy & tt my boss, and he even said that my coworker "may" have a hard time having a new person work in the office (my coworker has worked ALONE for 2 years, then bring me in the picture, and she feels threatened) My coworker even told me she feels threatend & in the backof her mind that I will take over everything (she told me this). Then one day, my coworker tells ME to go HOME cuz I was finished doing work, well SHE IS NOT MY BOSS!!!and that pissed me off.

So, I tt my boss, and said I don't like the way she is being bossy, I told him she never talks in the office, and my boss even said the coworker may "never" accept a new person in the office. So next thing
is he my boss hires me to work Thurs Fri & Mon....and has the coworker work Tues & Wed, that way we won't get into eachothers way.

FF now a few weeks, my boss takes me in his office and says "you are not happy with your job are you"? and I said NO i like my job, and I told him I wish my coworker could just be more talkative & not be so bossy. Then he took my coworker into his office alone & told her that we need to communicate better. Me & coworker talked over things and things seemed fine.

Now FF a week later, yesterday, boss comes into the office at noon and says we need to talk, and he tells me
we should just "call it a day" and i said, what do you mean, and he said "You don't like this job do you" and i said NO, i love the job, and the boss says, well I know you "probably" don't want a career here at the Auction Co....and its best that you persue a job elsewhere....I was shocked, mortified, and I said wait, what can i do to make things better? He said first off "on WEd you took 1 1/2 lunch, why so long" and I told him I went to the dentist. And he said what if a "million dollar phone call came in, and no one answered the phoen".....so I said, ooooohh "so basically I can't even take a 1/2 hour lunch, as I am supposed to, cuz what if the *million dollar proposal came in"...he says, well I am not talking about your 1/2 hour lunch, i am talking about Wed when you took an hour & half.......Well, Mr. Auction, I had a dentist appt, pre scheduled on my day off WED and miss coworker asked to swtich days with me, she work Thurs and I work Wed...what am i supposed to do?....Then he tells me about the dog walking deal (yes, I know now that i will never incorporate dog walking when I am working at another job)...so I told him if he didn't want me to walk the dogs, HE should have said NO!!!....then last straw is
someone called this week for Mr. Auction, and I wrote down the wrong name, and Mr. Auction said I am not detail oriented, and Mr. Auction felt like a fool for tt the person with the wrong name....ooooooh, I told him I am sorry *i made a mistake*....heck, I am human. Then he brings up the deal that he wants
"everyone" me & coworker and man in warehouse to ALL WORK 8-4, and then chews me out cuz i came in at 7:30 am a few times...just like Coworker and warehouse man have done many times!!! So i tell him, come' on, look at the times cards THEY come in at 6:30am or later and you yell at me cuz of it??? he says "well, they
may have certain assignments to do".....well he never should have stated *everyone work 8-4*.....He basically felt that i was not dedicated to the company cuz I asked to walk a dog (for one week) and not be there to answer phones (an extra 1/2 at lunch)...and he felt like I was taking advantage of him just for asking about the dog walking. I even told him I did not feel like part of the company, cuz no one ever told me anything about upcoming auctions, etc....i felt like i was not part of the team...I don't know.

I do know that he has had his daughter in on many occasions working the office, etc....and maybe he wants her working "thurs, fri & mon" now and wanted to "ease me out of the picture"......Maybe my coworker felt too threated with me.

I just feel i was "wronged" by this whole deal, and yes, there was more to the picture that meets the eye.
Well, I filed unemployment, and we will see if he tries to "fight" for me not getting it, yes, that means he could be in the wrong for firing me. May the battles begin now.

And to top it off, he said I will give you a great reference,so use me for upcoming jobs.

So that's the whole story, long and winded, and I needed to vent!!!!

Thanks so much for all your responses.

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also, if Mr. Auctions "million dollar proposal call" did come in....WE HAVE VOICE MAIL!! it got to the point that he even told us to take the phone into the bathroom (if we had to use the bathroom) just so we don't miss a call!! yes, that must sound great answereing the phone while taking a piss!!!

I'll keep you all posted, cuz filing for "unemployment" should stir things up & we shall see where the cards fall.

(((thanks everyone))

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